To those who retract! (intact)(circumcise?)

Discussion in 'The Healthy Penis' started by envybig1, Oct 31, 2018.

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Have you ever wished to be circumcised?

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  1. envybig1

    envybig1 Active Member

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    My first post here was about advice on getting circumcised and wanting to hear the different experiences of others who got cut later in life. It's actually how I found this site in the first place. Here is the link if you're interested - Circumcised? advice please.... , but if you don't want to check it out, the short version of it is, I'm in my 20s, and basically, I never really retracted while hard. I was told about cleaning, and have no issues retracting while soft, and I've never had an infection or anything.

    (For those who want to avoid reading most of this, you can go directly to my question. The first few words of of the question will be highlighted in blue)

    But growing up nobody told me that it's ok to do the same when you're hard and I didn't see it anywhere. I didn't have that type of closeness in my family and I haven't seen many dicks in person other than my closest friends growing up and they were both cut. And the guys in the porn vids were cut too. And to be honest it retracted very few times just by mistake but I would quickly put it back because I thought it wasn't supposed to happen and didn't want it to hurt.

    Well, before I made that post I had already started trying to retract regularly to get a sense of how it would be if I got circumcised, and it was going well but obviously still pretty tight. not phimosis level tight, just tight because it was not used to having to stretch in that way. Well ever since then I have pretty much been retracting every chance I get whether I'm hard or not. I try to stay pulled back as long as I can. I have my head exposed while taking a shower or bath but usually have to adjust the water because it's so sensitive. And I only jerk off with my head exposed now. I have not jerked off the other way for probably a year. It was kinda tight, and would squeeze the crown at first and would go back really quickly but over time it stays back while masturbating. I have so much more movement if you can understand. It's like the strokes are so much deeper with the skin back and my head fully exposed.

    After a while I was thinking that maybe I don't want to get circumcised after all due to things I've read that make me rethink it. And that's when I came across things like autocircumcision or circumcision without cutting, which is basically when you force your skin to stay retracted. I like how it looks and everything seems to be fine with it but I have noticed these guys can retract really far behind their head and I can't. It didn't take that long to realize it's because my frenulum won't stretch that far which isn't surprising considering how many years my penis hasn't needed to stretch that particular part. From then on I started stretching my frenulum the most I could over a few months. I would rub the underside of my head with lotion and softly pull to stretch and would do the same when taking a bath. But at this rate I can't see my frenulum stretching that far anytime soon.

    So i was thinking of having my frenulum removed so I would be able to retract with ease and as far as I wanted. I've seen a lot of dicks like this but I'm not sure if they were born that way, ripped it when they were younger, or actually had it removed. I've seen pics & vids of guys retract really far back with a frenulum but that could be due to them retracting with an erection early on or just having a longer frenulum. Everyone is different. But I would consider having my frenulum removed if would allow me to stay retracted as if I'm circumcised.

    For instance, there's a shemale pornstar who is intact but doesn't have a frenulum. Like I said earlier I'm not sure if it was removed purposefully, by injury or born without it. I have 2 links below. As you can see she can pull back fully exposing the head and it stays there. This was the only person I could think of by name to give a visual. You wouldn't think this person isn't circumcised if you saw it like this and didn't know ahead of time.

    http://tsmariana.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/mariana-cordoba-shemale-cock-2.jpg

    https://images.shemaletubevideos.co...06/10304/378de04d7a9cb623f54f736c3b2eb291.jpg

    But my reason for this entire post, is to ask guys who remain retracted, how you do it. I cannot wear pants while I'm retracted because it's super sensitive. My head has gotten slightly less sensitive than it was though it definitely still is but the foreskin back behind the head is even more sensitive. And once it feels the pressure and rubs against anything it's too much to take. I've tried the softest cotton material i have and walk really slowly and it's still too much. I mentioned bathing earlier, I try to go in with my head exposed but even after adjusting the temperature it's just too much so I push it back over the head until my body is kind of used to it then I can expose the head again. And the same goes for when it's time to dry yourself with a towel. When the towel brushes up against my dick when I'm exposed it's just too much to take so I push it back over until I'm finished.

    So out of curiosity I'm interested to know how you guys dealt with that. I cannot imagine trying to go to work in that condition.

    And yet there's still a part of me that thinks if I get my frenulum cut maybe I should get circumcised as well. I have a lot of anxiety with this most likely because of things that happened when I was a kid. There were a lot of embarrassing things that happened to me. And honestly just the thought of being circumcised makes me hard. Even when I'm not in the mood for anything, if I think of it I'm instantly hard. When I retract I get hard. And in this short period of time I have noticed that my head has gotten a little bigger. When I wear, like cotton shorts or something you can see the outline of my head through my pants and I'm not even retracted. It is that prominent at times. And I don't ever remember seeing the outline of my head in clothing.

    And even though the circ rate here in the U.S. is dropping that doesn't change what I went through, and it doesn't change the mindset of the majority of women out there who think so many negative thoughts about intact guys. It's very ingrained.

    I often go to bed with my head exposed. More times than none I wake up with it back in place but there are times I wake up and I'm still retracted. I actually read that this can be bad and sometime the foreskin can get stuck meaning you will need to be circumcised. So I have actually been doing it more and more sort of like a passive way of forcing myself to get circumcised whether I make up my mind or not.

    Well, thanks for reading if you made it this far. And again please let me know how you stay retracted and if it's sensitive for you as it is for me. I thought about getting a glans ring to train it to stay back but again I can't let too many things touch it because it's too much to handle. If you have any thoughts, tips, or advice on being intact, retracting, removing frenulum, or circumcision and being circumcised please leave some feedback!


    And if it helps I don't have a "long" foreskin. Even when I'm soft a little less than half of my head is exposed. It doesn't cover my entire head. I don't know if that makes a difference to any of these options. Also I'm 6 inches, not really girthy, just normal. And my balls are average size. Thank you!
     
  2. SirConcis

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    After a few minutes of being exposed, when your glans has dried up, it is more comfortable. And after a couple weeks of being exposed in underwear, you find the sensation extremely pleasant in underwear instead of being a problem.
     
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    Thanks for the response but unfortunately it's not that simple for me. It's been months and I still can't do it.
     
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    I can't give you any personal experiences, but here is a thought.
    If you are deciding to remove the frenum or frenum & foreskin - why not go in steps. You can remove frenum. If that doesn't do it, you can then remove foreskin. But if you remove it all, well it's too late to put some back. if you have the slightest uncertainty, go in steps.

    ...and you have taken into consideration that if you get cut it will feel like you have the foreskin back always? What I mean is once cut you will have to learn to get beyond the original sensitivity issues & if you can do it then, you can get past the issue now as an intact man. I'm sorry I can't tell you how to do that, but certainly you can. Perhaps the answer for you is as simple as a thick glans ring to keep the skin back while you fight through the journey? A glans ring can come off if you wish a time out, no time out once circumcised.
     
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    I've been retracted for 3 years, but even when I was starting I didn't have much trouble with oversensitivity.

    I've heard of another guy though, who used a piece of toilet paper on his glans at first to keep it dry but still protect it.
     
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    Thanks for response.
     
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    Often who has, when the penis is flaccid, the glans not entirely covered by the foreskin, does not suffer from hypersensitivity. This is because the glans, never being completely covered, becomes accustomed (at least the part that remains uncovered) to external stimuli (such as rubbing in the underwear or the water during the shower). Therefore, at most, it could be annoying when you completely retract the foreskin, with the consequent uncovering of the portion of the glans which is usually "protected" or "hidden". However, in my opinion, the only alternative is to force yourself to leave all the glans continually exposed: there will be to bear, but after a while (the time it takes is subjective for each person) you get used to it, just as happens to those who are circumcised.

    My case is rather different, but also particular. When I have the flaccid penis, my foreskin, by its nature, completely covers the glans, without "overhang" (considering also that sometimes it turns out to be slightly visible the urinary meatus). In erection, the glans becomes exposed only partially by itself: there is a part that remains still covered (and so I must lower manually this portion of foreskin, but I haven't any discomfort or difficulty). Anyway, when, with the end of the erection, my penis returns to flaccid state, if my glans has been fully exposed, the foreskin does not covers again the glans automatically or gradually. Basically, I have to bring back all the foreskin in the "original position" with my hands: if I do not this, the (flaccid) penis will still be with foreskin retracted and glans exposed.

    I have already noted that leaving the foreskin pulled back, it remains behind the corona of the glans without problems. Strangely, I often heard to say that it's hard for many boys to leave the glans uncovered with flaccid penis: even if they wanted, normally the foreskin would cover gradually again the glans. Nevertheless, this does not happen to me. Probably my foreskin is slightly tight (not that I have phimosis, also because I still manage to quietly bring the skin under the glans), in fact the skin remains where I leave it. I think I have a limited mobility of the foreskin, which does not "react" automatically, if not minimally, to changes of the penis (ie when it becomes erect or returns flaccid). However, I have no problem moving or lowering the foreskin to completely uncover the glans: only that I have to do it almost always with my hand...
     
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    I think my biggest sensitivity issue is the the underside of the foreskin when it is rolled back. When that part of the foreskin makes contact with clothing or something it is too much to take. But my head itself is not terribly bad when touching clothing or something. This is why I think about circumcision but I also have a small or tight frenulum. So when the time is right I may focus on getting the frenulum cut or removed.
     
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    Getting the frenulum cut is a popular way to make it easier to retract. Many guys also seem to have trouble with that area of the skin... there's really not much to do besides keeping at it and eventually it will desensitize too.
     
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    I lived some ~25 years with short foreskin. (semi cut). I didn't thinl nor /feel I had lost any sensitivity since I kept glans covered (as much as it could) in underwear. Nevertheless, every erection forced skin back, and usually woke up with exposed glans (but often partly covered by time I got up).

    One reason the idea of going for full cut that that eventually realise how good it felt to be bare head in underwear. Yet, I hesitated because of fear of loss of sensitivity.

    After the deed, I was instantly comfortable in underwear. And 10 years on, I realized the reason I felt comfy from the get go, and the reason I didn't notice loss of sensitivity is that any adaptation the glans needs for circumcision had happened during my semi cut years long before the full cut.

    I think that once the meatus is no longer covered when soft, and once each erection gets skin back, the glans no longer gets so moist/fragile and gets use dto being exposed (think nocturnal erections) and this makes it comfortable when left naked in underwear.
     
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    So why were you partially cut?
     
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    Had vert long foreskin. Did not want to be circumcised but was desperate to get shorter foreskin. Initially continued to consider myself uncut, eventually realised/accepted I was no longer uncut.
     
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    And you went to get cut again?
     
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    Have a look at this message board: pulledback [dot] org
     
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    never, it is more fun to play with it :)
     
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    I have been there. But you;re circumcised and proud? Did you have it done by choice?
     
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    Yes, I did. I prefer having the glans exposed, so it was in many ways the logical step.
     
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    What option did you choose and how did everything go?
     
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    Not sure what you mean by 'option', but ... it was forceps-guided (the only method offered by the clinic for adults); wound closed with surgical glue, not stitches; style is high (scar about 1.5 cm up for the glans ridge) and medium-tight. It all went very well, with no complications at all.
     
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    Yes, I meant what tightness you chose and also how high or low. I don't think I am familiar with forceps-guided. Unless it is similar to the cap. Happy everything went well!
     
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