madame_zora
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And usually does less damage.
I think the number of guns owned by the public here is absurd, it certainly hasn't made any of us safer. I've heard the argument that if guns were outlawed then only criminals would have guns, but I think that's pure bullshit. It's easy enough to look at how other civilised nations' crime and death rates compare to ours and draw the logical conclusion. The problem with we Americans is that we are so egocentric that we are incapable of even considering anyone else might have a better way.
For the average joe blow, owning a gun is more likely to do him or his family harm than anyone else, and if he's unfortunate enough to ever be in a situation that he needs it, it's unlikely he'll have the emotional wherewithall to use it properly. For the "gun enthusiast" or sportman, I think rifles are fine, I've never known anyone to go hunting with a handgun. People who vehemently defend their right to own handguns are creepy, weird people who don't know how to read the second amendment.
I think the number of guns owned by the public here is absurd, it certainly hasn't made any of us safer. I've heard the argument that if guns were outlawed then only criminals would have guns, but I think that's pure bullshit. It's easy enough to look at how other civilised nations' crime and death rates compare to ours and draw the logical conclusion. The problem with we Americans is that we are so egocentric that we are incapable of even considering anyone else might have a better way.
For the average joe blow, owning a gun is more likely to do him or his family harm than anyone else, and if he's unfortunate enough to ever be in a situation that he needs it, it's unlikely he'll have the emotional wherewithall to use it properly. For the "gun enthusiast" or sportman, I think rifles are fine, I've never known anyone to go hunting with a handgun. People who vehemently defend their right to own handguns are creepy, weird people who don't know how to read the second amendment.
maybe I'm just biased by experience because I grew up in a place where guns weren't just some kind of lameass status symbol. if you wanted to be a serious operator - or even if you wanted to sustain a legitimate business in some places - you'd better have a gun and you'd better know how (and when) to use it. I had to defend myself with lethal force on more than one occasion, and I never even ran my own show, as they say. all I can say is that my youth taught me that there a whole lot of people out there who'll blow your fucking head off given half a chance, and if you want to avoid that then you gotta be ready and alert to do them first. you can't really do that with a knife or a chair-leg.
international flights to/from the US do require that matches and lighters are checked with your hold baggage. I don't really understand it myself - I mean what are you gonna do? throw your brandy over an air hostess and set fire to her??
madame_zora
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Wow, right about now I'm feeling pretty grateful for growing up in lame-ass Cincinnati. Anyone who claims they need a gun here for survival is a neurotic chode! The fact still remains that it is the escalation of guns that causes the danger. Sure, in order to disarm our nation, it would be the law abiding citizens who suffer first, but I still think eventually harsher laws and punsihments would get us back on track with the rest of the world. I know, the first person whose innocent child died because they didn't have a gun there to defend against an intruder would make all the right-wingers squeal "I told ya so!", but just look at the numbers. You can't just focus on one individual circumstance to pass laws to run a nation. Well, I mean you shouldn't- but that's what we do here. What about the hordes of useless deaths caused by guns now? No one wants to address that or look at it logically. I've never ONCE heard anyone from the NRA defend their position without using a bunch of lies and rhetoric to do so. I'd sure be open to hearing intelligent dialogue, but too often they come off sounding like the mororns from the KKK, and they probably DO have plenty of shared membership.
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strangely enough, that's what they've been doing here for years, yet gun crime continues to increase year by year. harsher laws and punishments don't do anything to address the problem - they simply put more people in jail. and the more people who get arrested and/or shot by an armed police force, the more citizens are gonna feel the need to illegally arm themselves for their own safety. oh, they do here too, just in the opposite direction. check news archives for the dunblane shootings in '97. one whacko went apeshit with a couple of handguns, next week: blam, blanket ban on ownership with mandatory 5-year sentences (since increased to 10 years). hundreds of people are murdered every year with kitchen knives, but you don't need to work for the government to own one (yet).
looking at it logically, you have to bear in mind that a gun is simply a tool. someone who makes up their mind to kill someone else is gonna do it with whatever is most expedient - if they don't have a gun they'll use a knife or an axe or a friggin claw hammer. or let's talk about the number of deaths caused every year by careless drivers - there are many more people out there who should never be allowed to get behind the wheel of a car than there are people who should never be allowed to own a gun, for starters. the proportion of deaths through firearm attacks is a reflection of human nature, not the nature of firearms. people are always gonna want to kill each other. the hard part is making up your mind (or having it made up for you) - whether you then use a gun or a baseball bat to execute it is pretty inconsequential by comparison.
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