Todays youth and steroids 18 years old and up only

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As the title says, I'm seeing the rampant use and abuse of steroids and various PEDs by the teens and young men of this generation. A recent survey revealed that 2% of adolescents and young adults in Canada use steroids, I'll link the article here:

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-...een-boys-use-steroids-often-with-side-effects

All across instagram I see boys look rediculously huge and it's obvious they're juicing, the red and swollen face, bad face and back acne, the square jaw etc.

It really dissapoints and saddens me that todays youth have no desire to be patient with results and just accept the grind required at the gym to achieve their dream physique, and would rather resort to cheating which WILL eventually destroy their heart, kidneys, reproductive system, will cause depression and potentially land them in jail for purchasing illegal substances.

So what say you fellow gym rats, do you see this as an ever increasing epidemic? How tempted were to take the needle but decided not to?

Me personally, I worry greatly about the damage this is doing to the young men in America, both bodily and psychologically.
 
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Never seen them injecting but i hear them talking about cycling that crap all the time. I get the urge to want to be or look bigger and stronger but is it really worth what it does. Yeah you huge as crap but now you sacrificed so much else including your own junk.
 
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In my 50s, I’m pretty much one of the older men at my gym. It’s a large two story faculty. It’s intimidating that the vast majority are so muscular. Then I remember, “Oh that’s right. They aren’t bigger because they are younger, they are big from enhancements.” They look incredible but many will suffer health problems down the road. They are so young and don’t even give the natural look a chance.
 

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In my 50s, I’m pretty much one of the older men at my gym. It’s a large two story faculty. It’s intimidating that the vast majority are so muscular. Then I remember, “Oh that’s right. They aren’t bigger because they are younger, they are big from enhancements.” They look incredible but many will suffer health problems down the road. They are so young and don’t even give the natural look a chance.
And it's obvious too! Like I feel they'd be embarassed to show up knowing they're fake and biochemically enhanced.

And its not attractive either.
 
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Never seen them injecting but i hear them talking about cycling that crap all the time. I get the urge to want to be or look bigger and stronger but is it really worth what it does. Yeah you huge as crap but now you sacrificed so much else including your own junk.
It's not attractive either to be that big, it's such a fake look.
 

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I got my cut and size from years and years of hard ass work in the gym, never touched the juice once. Too fun working on growing naturally! And I think my look was natural in appearance, too. My trainer loved what I put into it and I certainly loved what I got out of it. I don't look like that anymore, I fucked my hips up through work and gym work and can't work out like I used to, but I stay very trim and the old muscle is still there if small I have nice shape to my physique. If I had juiced I'd probably have major health problems now, and terrible skin. Gross! Back acne is the grossest shit ever. Used to have to wash every bench after these sore-ridden juice freaks pretended to lift real weight. I was always much stronger than the juiced guys, I always thought it was weird these bloated duded just threw half the weight around as me, it made me realize strength is and means a lot more than just size :)
 

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Been naturally athletic all my life. Thought about the juice before but it comes down to me never willing to trade my skin and hair for that look. Let alone my internal organs.

But I find it incredibly hot. I would fuck it, suck it, eat it, buy it from others on occasion.

I hope these young boys figure out that the extra attention and connection they get out of it is never for directed at them meaningfully. It is only at and for their bodies. They reduce themselves. Shrinking their essence and their balls.
 
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A few years ago I have started working out and dieting for real. Even though I am a little over 5" 7', I used to wheight less than 132 lb, so unlike the guy above me, you could say I have always been "naturally unathletic".

It is a though world, specially in the gay scene... you don't get a lot of atention if you do not sport big muscles and a six pack, you are usually left behind and gets less of the spotlight in nightclubs, dating apps, etc. But I have never even considered using juice. My friends who are doctors scared the hell out of me and I also do not like how it shows that you used it (eg: bad acne).

I ended up building almost 45 lb of mass, most of it muscle mass, I and got very satisfied with it :) the pandemic hit hard, no doubt, and I lost some of the progress. Now I am mustering courage to diet and have discipline training again :D

I do see younger guys obviously using and sometimes abusing hormones - even worse, without proper medical guidance. I am very self aware, so it is really hard to look at those guys with hot, shreded bodys and big muscles while I have to diet and train with rigorous discipline to have a fraction of that result. But I try to think that this will come to get them sooner or later and that I am also looking after my health while working out and running in the threadmill
 

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Lots of thoughts on this.
I'll start by answering the original question. Yes. People are jumping into using gear WAY too soon. A result of our instant gratification culture believing there's a shortcut to a high level physique. I swear, some of them must buy their drugs and gym membership the same week. And, they're in a hurry. So, they'll eat crap, train like a dipshit, ignore their health, and wind up looking and feeling awful.
I'd like to address a few misconceptions about the drugs, though....
SOME people get side effects. Not all. Not most. Some.
Some get acne/lose hair/etc and most don't. And the ones that do, can get them very slightly or extreme and everything in between.
As far as the organs being "destroyed"... Not likely. There are, of course, fools who go to extreme lengths to abuse their bodies and eat crap. But, it's not the norm. There is a danger in using any medication. Steroids are no different. They're just the ones being demonized by people who don't understand how they work. More people have been hospitalized and died from OTC aspirin use in one year than all the decades of steroid users. And, as of this writing, there is not one single medical examiners report that has conclusively stated steroids were the cause of death. Health problems with steroid users are either genetic or the result of polypharmacology. At the high level, users are on diuretics, stimulants, and even pain meds. The steroids by themselves are relatively harmless.
Finally, users generally don't care if you think they look good or attractive to you. A small percentage of younger users will tell you they want to look good for whoever they're trying to attract. But, even in those cases, it's a secondary or tertiary point.
It's like tattoos and piercings....
It's a form of body modification.
They don't do it for you.
You don't like it? Cool. Don't do it.
It's that simple.... Unless you're upset that you don't have the resources/nerve to use them, I guess
 

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The online world has made a cottage industry for recreational use of steroids. It brings in huge revenues and is fed by those fixated by what is perceived to be "perfection" on Instagram and the other platforms. As one who's on testosterone only to keep me in the normal range... I could not imagine going thru all the mathmatics and chemistry jargin that I see on sub Reddits for "gains". But hey, your body... your choice (except for women and their vaginas these days it seems).
 
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A few years ago I have started working out and dieting for real. Even though I am a little over 5" 7', I used to wheight less than 132 lb, so unlike the guy above me, you could say I have always been "naturally unathletic".

It is a though world, specially in the gay scene... you don't get a lot of atention if you do not sport big muscles and a six pack, you are usually left behind and gets less of the spotlight in nightclubs, dating apps, etc. But I have never even considered using juice. My friends who are doctors scared the hell out of me and I also do not like how it shows that you used it (eg: bad acne).

I ended up building almost 45 lb of mass, most of it muscle mass, I and got very satisfied with it :) the pandemic hit hard, no doubt, and I lost some of the progress. Now I am mustering courage to diet and have discipline training again :D

I do see younger guys obviously using and sometimes abusing hormones - even worse, without proper medical guidance. I am very self aware, so it is really hard to look at those guys with hot, shreded bodys and big muscles while I have to diet and train with rigorous discipline to have a fraction of that result. But I try to think that this will come to get them sooner or later and that I am also looking after my health while working out and running in the threadmill
I get it, the gay community is extremely shallow, narcisstic and other things I won't mention here at the risk of getting a strike. I'm a big guy, 6foot3 and down to 240 pounds, was 250 two weeks ago, pandemic took away the physique I used to have. I'm very muscular, big arms, back, long legs, bubble butt, but a tad flabby in the stomach. I get no attention from the gays, they block or ignore me, even though im 7.5in and thick down there. It really pisses me off that they're so superficial, but you what, we I get my body back through discipline, hard work, diet and doing it naturally, I will not give any of my time to them if they hit me up
 
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I get it, the gay community is extremely shallow, narcisstic and other things I won't mention here at the risk of getting a strike. I'm a big guy, 6foot3 and down to 240 pounds, was 250 two weeks ago, pandemic took away the physique I used to have. I'm very muscular, big arms, back, long legs, bubble butt, but a tad flabby in the stomach. I get no attention from the gays, they block or ignore me, even though im 7.5in and thick down there. It really pisses me off that they're so superficial, but you what, we I get my body back through discipline, hard work, diet and doing it naturally, I will not give any of my time to them if they hit me up
One could say that the "general" dating community can be all of those things at times. Why? Social media has propelled this. Back in the day, I was by no means buff or hot. But I hooked up a lot with the ladies (became bi later in life). Now all I read about is how the youngers are not hooking up. Once again... Social media. I've lost track of how many times when we go to a local watering hole full of single folks... They are on their screens.
 
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Im in the gym for 17 years now and saw guys come and go. A lot of them train like shit, start juicing, and a lot of them never came back after they stopped
Lots of thoughts on this.
I'll start by answering the original question. Yes. People are jumping into using gear WAY too soon. A result of our instant gratification culture believing there's a shortcut to a high level physique. I swear, some of them must buy their drugs and gym membership the same week. And, they're in a hurry. So, they'll eat crap, train like a dipshit, ignore their health, and wind up looking and feeling awful.
I'd like to address a few misconceptions about the drugs, though....
SOME people get side effects. Not all. Not most. Some.
Some get acne/lose hair/etc and most don't. And the ones that do, can get them very slightly or extreme and everything in between.
As far as the organs being "destroyed"... Not likely. There are, of course, fools who go to extreme lengths to abuse their bodies and eat crap. But, it's not the norm. There is a danger in using any medication. Steroids are no different. They're just the ones being demonized by people who don't understand how they work. More people have been hospitalized and died from OTC aspirin use in one year than all the decades of steroid users. And, as of this writing, there is not one single medical examiners report that has conclusively stated steroids were the cause of death. Health problems with steroid users are either genetic or the result of polypharmacology. At the high level, users are on diuretics, stimulants, and even pain meds. The steroids by themselves are relatively harmless.
Finally, users generally don't care if you think they look good or attractive to you. A small percentage of younger users will tell you they want to look good for whoever they're trying to attract. But, even in those cases, it's a secondary or tertiary point.
It's like tattoos and piercings....
It's a form of body modification.
They don't do it for you.
You don't like it? Cool. Don't do it.
It's that simple.... Unless you're upset that you don't have the resources/nerve to use them, I guess
Everyone can do with their body what they want but calling the steroids you consume harmless is just dumb and almost every probodybuilder would agree on that. They know they are harmful but are okay with the risks. And when you get your shit from the blackmarket, like the majority does you never know where the raw powders are from. So you often have a lot of heavy metals in your stuff
 
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As the title says, I'm seeing the rampant use and abuse of steroids and various PEDs by the teens and young men of this generation. A recent survey revealed that 2% of adolescents and young adults in Canada use steroids, I'll link the article here:

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-...een-boys-use-steroids-often-with-side-effects

All across instagram I see boys look rediculously huge and it's obvious they're juicing, the red and swollen face, bad face and back acne, the square jaw etc.

It really dissapoints and saddens me that todays youth have no desire to be patient with results and just accept the grind required at the gym to achieve their dream physique, and would rather resort to cheating which WILL eventually destroy their heart, kidneys, reproductive system, will cause depression and potentially land them in jail for purchasing illegal substances.

So what say you fellow gym rats, do you see this as an ever increasing epidemic? How tempted were to take the needle but decided not to?

Me personally, I worry greatly about the damage this is doing to the young men in America, both bodily and psychologically.
This is certainly the result of social media and instant gratification. Very few youths can sit still and read for 30 minutes, do you expect them to put in the work and dedication for several years to achieve a respectable physique? They want it all now. They don't care that they'll struggle to walk up a flight of stairs when they're 35. It's unfortunate, but all you can do is throw your hands up and say "oh well".
 
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Steroid use in rugby (including schoolboys rugby) is pretty rampant. Also, if you look at Hollywood many of the most successful action movie stars look unnaturally muscular. Its pretty obvious they are using