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This idea goes back to ancient Greece. The one giving dick up the ass should be older and bigger than the one taking it. I always preferred fucking younger and smaller men, while being fucked by older and bigger men. What is your preference, if any/
 

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it's probably a dominance vs submissive thing?
The fucker should be more powerful while the fuckee takes it..

I like getting fucked by bigger and stronger guys.. larger muscular frames etc.
this could apply to straight relationships as well I think.. guys like petite chicks. smaller hands feet body frame etc. Not saying this is always true but in general i think it makes sense..
 

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Age is inconsequential, but I do prefer my tops to be at least my size and a little aggressive. That said, I haven't found a really well hung top under 5'10, but I do know they're out there and size would never be a deal killer - if Frederick Lamont ever swung the other way, bring it on, man!
 

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I am 80% Bottom, 20% Top :)

I have never bottomed with a real one though. And my partner is a top and we have not done that yet but he is younger than me and has a bigger dick. So you are saying that wont work? :lol: He is 5'10" and I am 6'3" I am bigger in every sense of the word except for in the penis dept. I am 6.5 and he is 8
 

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The research that I've read (and yes, there's research on this) indicates that the more patriarchal a culture is (or the more male privilege there is, anyway) the more likely it is that gay men will form exclusive top/bottom relationships; similarly, women are more likely to marry older, wealthier men in more patriarchal cultures. Using the OP's example, this mirrors exactly the way gay and straight relationships were ordered in some of the classical Greek city-states. But it's mirrored today in that people who live in more conservative, patriarchal places are more likely to hew to the exclusive top/bottom-older/younger dynamic, whereas people in more liberal, less patriarchal places are less likely to do so.

Interesting stuff. I did a pile of research on it in uni.
 

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The research that I've read (and yes, there's research on this) indicates that the more patriarchal a culture is (or the more male privilege there is, anyway) the more likely it is that gay men will form exclusive top/bottom relationships; similarly, women are more likely to marry older, wealthier men in more patriarchal cultures. Using the OP's example, this mirrors exactly the way gay and straight relationships were ordered in some of the classical Greek city-states. But it's mirrored today in that people who live in more conservative, patriarchal places are more likely to hew to the exclusive top/bottom-older/younger dynamic, whereas people in more liberal, less patriarchal places are less likely to do so.

Interesting stuff. I did a pile of research on it in uni.


In the novel, Enesto [by Umberto Sabe] and the movie [by Awards Films],the boy wants to fuck the older warehouse worker but is denied because he does not shave yet. The boy took it up the ass. The setting is northern Italy in 1910 -- very patriarchal society.
 

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No preferences, I like both, especially bottoming when I can ride like a KY cowboy with him laying face-up.

This is a great thread. Keep up the great responses! :tongue:

hugs,

tallandhung
 

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In the novel, Enesto [by Umberto Sabe] and the movie [by Awards Films],the boy wants to fuck the older warehouse worker but is denied because he does not shave yet. The boy took it up the ass. The setting is northern Italy in 1910 -- very patriarchal society.

I googled the book after you mentioned it, and it gets rave reviews. I'll check it out for sure. Thanks!
 

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i'm a 99% bottom and like an aggressive dominant hung top to ride me
for the last 1 percent i'm in my dominant mood ;-) and love a hung bottom
 

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I'm basically a top and agree with the OP, I prefer young guys but I'm not particularly concerned about them being smaller - I'm 5ft 10ins and have had several +6ft youths. I do prefer them to be slim and smooth though.

In my experience many younger guys in saunas like older lovers - which is good for me!
 

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Because I've always been known for "packin'", older men (from 1 year to 40 years) would seek me out and line me up for a hook up after work. That was when I tended bar in the Castro during the 70s. Then I had an affair with a older gentleman with whom I seriously fell in love. He couldn't imagine me ever fucking him. Fortunately, he knew how to fuck and I usually came by rubbing my dick all over his chest as he fucked me. It was OK, but not completely satisfying. That's when I realized being a bottom or a top was sort of a political game among gay men. Everyone wanted to top, but once they got their hands down my pants it was obvious they preferred having me plow them senseless.

Then I met a semi-famous porn star who started out in San Francisco. Tall, goofy, handsome, deep voice, nice dick (though much smaller than me) and for about two months we became a serious item. He'd fuck me and then insist I fuck him. He could swallow my dick down his throat and keep it there for several minutes. We would often 69 working to cum at the same time then, with our mouths full of each other's load we'd suck face and swap cum until we were exhausted. He was also exactly on the same wave length as me when it cam to engaging one, two, three or more people in a group grope. He was a great guy and helped me realize those who think they should always be the top or bottom because of the size of their dick were missing out on a lot.

Some of the best love-making The Squeeze and I enjoy is when we sixty-nine while we both have someone sliding their dick up our ass at the same time. Doesn't happen all the time, but it's easy to arrange when we're in the mood. In addition, if The Squeeze is feeling particularly macho (usually Saturday mornings) I have no problem encouraging him to slip his beautiful cock up my ass and fuck me as I remain in semi-sleeping state. As for me fucking him, he's still up to it but he's getting older and I'm afraid of causing him to develop hemorrhoids.

Fortunately for me, I'm as big an asshole as my ass is. :biggrin1:
 

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I'm not a huge fan of anal in the first place, or even the designation of a "top" and a "bottom", but I don't think size/age should have anything to do with it. I had a partner who was endowed pretty well, but still enjoyed being the bottom.

I tend to avoid situations where I have to engage in this, so I guess my opinions shouldn't even matter that much
 

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That's when I realized being a bottom or a top was sort of a political game among gay men.

This drives me nuts! The whole dom/sub thing is one of my few flat-out turn offs. If there's not an egalitarian dynamic with the guy I'm fucking, from the get-go, I check out ASAFP. But, I'm as close to being 100% versatile in the truest sense of the word as any man ever was, so that probably has a lot to do with it.

This idea goes back to ancient Greece. The one giving dick up the ass should be older and bigger than the one taking it. I always preferred fucking younger and smaller men, while being fucked by older and bigger men. What is your preference, if any/

Your reference to the ancient Greek custom of mentors and catamites is valid, so this may just be me succumbing to the urge to split hairs. It's my understanding that anal sex was quite taboo in ancient Greece. Men generally only fucked the asses of slaves or citizens of lesser station that they wished to humiliate. Men who took other men as lovers customarily practiced frottage and intercrural intercourse, which is a clinical sounding term that basically means one man would squeeze his legs together to form a faux vagina and the other man would pump his dick between his lover's thighs.
 

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Well, I bottom 99% of the time when it comes to sex because I enjoy being dominated by a guy. However, I'm very selective about anal sex unless I am dating or in a relationship with the guy.