Travel Like a Rock Star

Discussion in 'Et Cetera, Et Cetera' started by ponybilt, Sep 23, 2004.

  1. ponybilt

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    According to Garrison Courteney, a spokesman for the department of homeland security, "When someone is put on a no-fly list there's a lot of security and decision-making to do with that. It's not done casually. People are put on there because they are a threat to airline safety."

    Well, that explains how Senator Kenedy and Congressmen Lewis are on the list. And now Cat Stevens. British Foreighn Secretary Straw criticizes the action.

    Ted Kenedy now has to carry a letter from Homeland Security Director Tom Ridge certifying he is not a terrorist.

    How can we say that we are more secure when the administration claims to be going over every name, and yet -- they bounced Ted from boarding, but allowed Mr Islam (Cat Stevens) to board? This doesn't make me feel safe, nor safer. This makes me feel like there's a chimp in charge somewhere. Thank god those little red buttons were removed from the Oval Office.
     
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    You sure about that?
     
  3. ponybilt

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    You sure about that?
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    Sure, now I won't be able to sleep at all tonight! And it's not just because of that jock! :D
     
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    Damn, and I was hoping it was the jock. ;)
     
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    These days, in spite of efforts to avoid profiling, a name like Terry Ism seems to regularly get added to the watch list.

    Never mind the fact that the moniker belongs to a 90-year-old, arthritic lady using a walker.
     
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    Not a chimp in charge. It much worse: a bureaucracy under the control of a professional politician.

    SG
     
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    Not a chimp in charge. It much worse: a bureaucracy under the control of a professional politician.

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    So what part of him is professional??? :p
     
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    Maybe his hair products? :wacko:
     
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    An infinite number of bureaucrats under the control of a professional politician with an infinite number of directories given an infinite amount of time may find one terrorist.
     
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    An infinite number of bureaucrats under the control of a professional politician with an infinite number of directories given an infinite amount of time may find one terrorist.
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    Seriously, though. Jokes about bureaucrats aside, what ponybilt points out in this thread is disturbing for a couple of reasons. Why? Becasue I've nearly been victimized by the system like Ted Kennedy and, regardless of that, I remain concerned that security is not as good as it could be.

    First:

    The trend of removals of "risky" individuals from aircraft is probably based on some kind of database buried in the computers at Homeland Security or Transportation Security Administration. Every potential airline passenger's name probably gets cross checked against a database of attributes including: race, religion, name, known political affiliation, donations to selected charities, method of ticket payment, physical appearance, history of making statements deemed anti-US, etc. Too many risky attributes flagged against a passenger's name results in extra security screening or the outright denial of boarding. To me, this sounds a lot like profiling via database.

    Passenger security fiascos involving public figures like Ted Kennedy or Cat Stevens result in a flurry of sympathetic reports in the media that are rightfully embarrasing to the US government. But when ordinary schmucks like me get profiled there is no media attention. Instead, I was escorted to the security debriefing room at the airport terminal (which, by the way, was packed with unhappy looking men of Arabic and Indian complexion). There I was subjected to further search, a long wait and then an interrogation before being freed. Funny thing was, I was travelling on offical US government urgent business when this happened to me.

    Second:

    Ethical questions of profiling aside, tight screening of passengers percieved as risky may or may not reduce the threat of terrorism. But what about the thousands of airline baggage handlers and aircraft service contract personnel who, according to some media reports, undergo few background checks and little screening during routine entry/exit from airport complexes? These are the people (mainly in low paying, high-turnover jobs) who have regular access to a fueling bays, baggage compartments, and all other manner of sensitve locations at airports.

    Read about it here and think about it.

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    Which is why there are MANY other places I'd rather visit than the US right now. I'd rank it with Iraq as "place not to go if you don't like interrogation or Abu Garib/Guantanamo bay".
     
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    How many chumps could a champ chimp chomp if a champ chimp could chomp chumps?
     
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    He'd chomp as many chumps as a champion chimp chomper could chomp if a champ chimp could chomp chumps.
     
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    He'd chomp as many chumps as a champion chimp chomper could chomp if a champ chimp could chomp chumps.
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    Charming!
     
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