Trolls!!!!

Discussion in 'Et Cetera, Et Cetera' started by jeff black, Jul 10, 2006.

  1. jeff black

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    BIG SLIMY MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!

    Alright, now the definition of a troll on lpsg is
    Trolling- NOT COVERED UNDER FREEDOM OF SPEECH! A "Troll" is someone who is consistently disruptive or abusive to other members in most of his or her posts (this is not meant to include humor, differences of opinion, or the occasional snarky remark). Trolls will be discussed by the moderating staff, and if agreed upon by a majority, our decision will be final and they will be banned. Spammers and advertisers will be banned without warning.

    Now this is all fine and dandy... but suppose a member of the group, choses to make rude comments to others only on occasion... Is it ok to just let assholes lay around here?

    An example... your opinion members... should they be banned or be allowed to stay?

    OR
    The identity of the poster doesnt' matter, but I would just like some clairification, on why some people are allowed to stay, when they choose to insult people at random, even if it is just once or twice?

    Does that mean that I have the right to call someone a Peice of shit, fagboy, N*word, or a combination of insults, just because it would only be the minority of my posts? OR better yet, Mock a moderator or two because I didn't get the response I wanted?

    I think the worst part is, the person may not be liked by people due to his/her ridiculous rants, and comments that appear to be as fake as a 3 dollar bill, but that is beside the point. The point is... I think the poster is an asshole, and a troll, and he/she should be banned...

    OH, and feel free to add other examples if you want.....
     
  2. Lordpendragon

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    Don't let assholes get to you. Noli illegitimi carborundum!

    I enjoy (I admit it) watching the trolls get put down by some very clever people here.
     
  3. jeff black

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    You know, Lord P... you make a valid comment. I also enjoy trolls getting beat down.

    However, I really have to say... when people go above and beyond normal harsh words.. to intentionally hurt others... there is a problem, and they should get chucked.. no ifs, ands, or buts.

    Sitting around, and letting people go about, attacking people becuase someone didn't agree with their idea... is just nonsense. But who knows.. people may not agree with me..time will tell.
     
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    I think u´re sooo right about this Jeff!
    They should be banned doing like they do like for ex in your quotet texts!
    IT´s humiliating and degreeding and so not belongs here!

    this is a chat for all kinda ppl and should be treated with respect!

    I say;
    Bann them!
     
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    The thing with trolls is that they crave attention and probably don't get much of it in the real world so they say provocative things online. In my opinion, it's better just to ignore them since that is guaranteed to drive them insane as well as sending them off to another website. (They usually have very short attention spans as well). On the other hand, it's always good to challenge racism, homophobia etc. Hmm...seem to be arguing against my own point now...
     
  6. Lordpendragon

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    I think it has to come down to the way opposing views are aired.

    I personally get very wound up by the conceitedness of religious people when they presume that their position is ordained by god and then patronise the unfortunate non-believers - WTF?

    But I would advocate toleration of all points of view - what is considered a bizarre minority opinion today, may be accepted by the majority tomorrow - not that the majority has any god given right to truth. I presume trolls are asked to make their points in a civil manner and if they can not, are then struck off.
     
  7. Jeffin90620

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    I am curious as to the comments made which resulted in the ripostes you quoted here. What set him off? Was he insulted, or only contradicted?

    Did someone call him a liar (a conclusion I saw in a response to a story about a cross-generational encounter)?

    You are not really giving us enough information to know if this particular person is in any way justified (however immature that justification may be) for the language he used.
     
  8. novice_btm

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    These quotes came from the "larger lips" thread http://www.lpsg.org/women-s-issues/29638-larger-lips-better-sink-ships-6.html, but if you look at his others posts, you'll see he's rather trollish in tone. Almost Fish/Bella-like. :wink:
     
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    Color me corrected. :wink: But really, does it matter? All of his posts are the same. LOL
     
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    Actually, all I really need is a good anti-Jonah comment thrown into one of his posts, and I'll be convinced. :tongue:
     
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    I think those comments are an example of where the ignore button has to be used. (resist the urge to click "view post.") Assholes can be here; shout them down, or ignore them entirely.
     
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    If ignorance is bliss, this troll must be on clound 9. i dont understand the disrespect,and rude behavior, and nobody should have to put up with that. I am one who believes in peace, but I also believe in protecting yourself, and not being harrassed by simpleton idiots. It is good that you are speaking up Jeff because, so many would just ignore and let little mr. rude shit get away with it. Luckily he has not come into contact with me. I have a toungue so sharp it will leave a verbal sting that his ancestors 200 years later will feel the lash. Common respect!
     
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    pretty sure that comes under "occasional snarky remark"

    yes

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    i think - or at least i HOPE - that those qualify as "freedom of speech" rather than trolling
     
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    Needless to say I will undoubtedly regret posting here as I do when I post in certain politically themed threads but that is precisely why I am posting something here.

    I recently asked a simple question about why people make one thread after another about someone they claim to detest and shortly thereafter I was called a troll Why? Because my oppinion was different from others? I was also told I was (paraphrasing here) an idiot and stupid etc. Again, because I had a viewpoint different from others Well pardon my existance and nonconformity but it is who I am...I will have my own beliefs and views and that is all there is to it Keep in mind after being told how ignorant I was I did not fire back similar salvos...I believe a true troll would have but that is neither here nor there...is it?


    One poster went so far as criticizing me for a political stance because he saw it as anti-gay Again, I am entitled to my own approach My beliefs about marriage and morals are mine, this is not a right and wrong, it is my personal belief in the same vein as if a person believes Catholicism is of equal level with Judaism and that both are superior to being a Presbyterian (or vice-versa) these are personal matters. Some people say two people living together without marriage is a sin others say its not a problem. No right or wrong just personal belief and opinion.

    (and be sure to check out todays New York Times by the way and a lovely article about gay marriage and even the low percentage of support it garners in New York City)

    If I were indeed trolling, by definition I would be sending vitriolic messages to one after another and infesting dozens if not hundreds of posts with my views while telling others that they were losers and scum...I do not view other persons here (in general) under either of those categories I realize they have their idea of what is right and wrong and I have mine it does not in the final hour mean either of us is fully correct...or completely wrong

    For the person who first decided I was a troll, I ask all persons to look at ALL of my posts since arriving here I have posted in a few topics My mistake is always when I get into politcal matters and I suspect it would also happen if I entered into religion or spiritual matters

    I think that your moderator Lex summed it up best by saying that you can use the ignore button if someone bothers you and as was also indicated earlier in this thread, the moderators get together when they see trolling behavior and make a decision accordingly


    That said and done I will now exit and get back to my space underneath the bridge where I am sure I must live if I am indeed a troll:rolleyes2:
     
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    yes it is, you pigfucking clown. your "personal beliefs" are that civil rights and basic human dignity should be withheld from certain sections of the population. you are WRONG. if you cunts want a theocracy that bad, move to fucking iran and rid the rest of us of your excruciating stupidity.
     
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    And I think for me, that's the difference. Not having the same opinion is one thing, but if say you (the generic "you") have a total of 5-6 posts to your credit, and they all have the same message of attacking one person, or persons, sometimes totally unrelated to the thread topic, then I'd call "troll" (it's happened about 4-5 times). After 10-12 of these, I'm definitely labeling you a troll, and mentioning on the board, if not also to a Mod (so far, I've done this twice; one banned, one "being watched", but went silent, and possibly just back as someone new).

    I know I'm asking for trouble on this, but just pointing out my observation. Racism will get you banned pretty quickly, but calling someone a "fag", even with accompanying anti-gay rhetoric, will only get you labeled as annoying. Name-calling IS annoying, but my problem with this is when people purposely go into threads of no interest to them, just to do so, which in my opinion moves into trollism.
     
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    I smell a troll.
     
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    I simply adore it when you talk to me so sweetly you big brute you!


    Now to the facts, I do not believe that civil rights or human dignity should be withheld from anyone...where did I say that I did? I said I supported (and I must admit I support somewhat tepidly) one person over another and the other does not (in my view, again, my opinion) seem to be doing anything to further the rights of gays...or anyone else.

    You in the meantime have alleged that I am engaging in sexual acts with animals, that I am a part of a female anatomy, that the country known as Iran is either having sex or is a sex object (not sure which since 'fucking iran' is rather vague) and that my stupidity is excruciating. Excruciating what? Painful? Joyful? Do tell! Would that be excruciatingly humerous stupidity? Excruciatingly witty almost barbaric stupidity? Details Dr. Romps, give me details!


    Oh Heavens to Betsy, having been followed here to this thread in a trollish manner by Dr.Romps, I have succumbed to equal trollish standards and followed him here...I may never recover from this, and I cannot return to my space under the bridge as it has been taken over by giant bollweevils and ...and oddly enough Rush Limbaugh who is trying to salvage his career.
     
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    Be that as it may, my experience is that unless he's shown to have multiple accounts, be under-aged, or pop out with a juicy ranting against race, he's our very own little troll (adding to a growing list). While being a troll is listed in the TOS as a bannable offence, there seems to be a painfully broad interpretation of it, to those of us who have a particular distaste for them. Proving trollism is no easy undertaking.
     
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