Trump And Iran

[phonehome]

Apparently they did not hit anyone or destroy much. They didn’t hit the American section either. They will claim victory to save face but this is an act of war. Hitting Soleimani inside Iraq is self defense.

Ever consider that they "missed on purpose" that this was in effect a "warning shot" their way of saying "we can do this, do it ANYTIME we want to and next time we will NOT "miss" "

These are not 30 plus year old ODS era SCUDS

If it were really and truly just a case of taking "the shotgun approach" out of a dozen missiles odds are good at least one would have "accidentally" hit "someone" or a bunch of someone's and/or destroyed VERY MUCH

It was only "self defense" if you believe Don the con, the lying sack of shit, he of 15 thousand lies and counting

How ironic is it that less than 5 months ago, the CIA, and other intel agencies were all part of the "deep state" and not to be trusted but know it is quick 180 and trust every thing they say and also trust that they even told Don the con what he says they told him

We all know that he gets his "PDB" from Fox&Friends in the AM and Tucker Carlson, Lou Dobbs and Sean Hannity at night

But even if it is true and these imminent threats" were about to happen any day now, do you really think that this guy did not have a number 2, an XO if you will that would have been quite aware of these upcoming events, was probably quite involved in the planning and execution of them and could step in and see that they are carried out ???

 

[b.c.]

I'd put Kacich on the list of those they could've supported. Rubio and Cruz showed that they have no backbones when Trump, during the primaries, dogged their wives' and families. He went beyond politics and made it personal and now those two are his cheerleaders.

It's as people are always saying, to most sane people "Idiocracy" was just a movie. To Republicans it's a how-to.

Yes, about this time of the year in 2016 I wrote herein that Kasich made the most sense out of the LOT of them. Of course this would meant that he'd be the LEAST desirable to REPUBLICAN voters, particularly the deplorables among them.

Nahh... instead, THEY showed up in DROVES to empower the nastiest, most despicably REPUGNANT, batshit crazy fkr they could FIND.

 

[deleted15807]

Yes, about this time of the year in 2016 I wrote herein that Kasich made the most sense out of the LOT of them. Of course this would meant that he'd be the LEAST desirable to REPUBLICAN voters, particularly the deplorables among them.

Nahh... instead, THEY showed up in DROVES to empower the nastiest, most despicably REPUGNANT, batshit crazy fkr they could FIND.

And the more groups of people he insulted the more they liked him. He weaponized their fear, vulnerability and xenophobia and then delivered the enemy namely those groups and said only he could save them.

 

[Thikn2velvet1]

The 'dumb liberal' that engulfed us in the middle east was George W. Bush. We support repressive regimes in the region and that will always drag is into being involved there. The only 'stupid' here is your manic assumptions. It's never a good look for you.

So all the cheerleading for Obama taking out Bin Laden was wrong or right? My position is clear , we should not be in the Middle East, period, and Bush was wrong to get us ensnared there, but lots of Dems( but not Bernie) OKed that entry.

I stated about a month ago HERE when Trump was trying to leave Syria that he was right, we have no strategic interest in the Middle East and we should get out. You in particular said we had to stay so figuratively any bloodshed now is on your hands. Not on mine, I wanted out yesterday.

I was right and you and dust, and every other liberal were wrong and now soaked with figurative blood.

 

[Thikn2velvet1]

Ever consider that they "missed on purpose" that this was in effect a "warning shot" their way of saying "we can do this, do it ANYTIME we want to and next time we will NOT "miss" "

These are not 30 plus year old ODS era SCUDS

If it were really and truly just a case of taking "the shotgun approach" out of a dozen missiles odds are good at least one would have "accidentally" hit "someone" or a bunch of someone's and/or destroyed VERY MUCH

It was only "self defense" if you believe Don the con, the lying sack of shit, he of 15 thousand lies and counting

How ironic is it that less than 5 months ago, the CIA, and other intel agencies were all part of the "deep state" and not to be trusted but know it is quick 180 and trust every thing they say and also trust that they even told Don the con what he says they told him

We all know that he gets his "PDB" from Fox&Friends in the AM and Tucker Carlson, Lou Dobbs and Sean Hannity at night

But even if it is true and these imminent threats" were about to happen any day now, do you really think that this guy did not have a number 2, an XO if you will that would have been quite aware of these upcoming events, was probably quite involved in the planning and execution of them and could step in and see that they are carried out ???

So what should we have done? Remember, YOU said we needed to be in the Middle East when Trump tried to get out of Syria, that we had an obligation, so when they killed an American contractor and stormed our embassy, what was YOUR plan?

 

[Industrialsize]

A president who lost the popular vote by 2.9 million votes, suffered the worst midterm election defeat in US history & then got impeached now wants to start a war that a majority of Americans disapprove of.

 

[keenobserver]

So all the cheerleading for Obama taking out Bin Laden was wrong or right? My position is clear , we should not be in the Middle East, period, and Bush was wrong to get us ensnared there, but lots of Dems( but not Bernie) OKed that entry.

I stated about a month ago HERE when Trump was trying to leave Syria that he was right, we have no strategic interest in the Middle East and we should get out. You in particular said we had to stay so figuratively any bloodshed now is on your hands. Not on mine, I wanted out yesterday.

I was right and you and dust, and every other liberal were wrong and now soaked with figurative blood.

Clearly the small words I used were not small enough. It follows you would give Hitler a pass. That's all we need to know.

 

[spaj8987]

Killing a civilian, in front of his wife and kids no less, is ok, but killing a military general who was in a foreign country that his country is trying to de-stabilize and who committed terrorist acts is not?

(Killing a civilian, in front of his wife and kids no less, is ok, but killing a military general who was in a foreign country that his country is trying to de-stabilize and who committed terrorist acts is not?)

Ever heard the term people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones? Well in a way you're a person living in a glass house throwing a nuke.

["The other thing with the terrorists is you have to take out their families, when you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families. They care about their lives, don't kid yourself. When they say they don't care about their lives, you have to take out their families,"]

Here is trump not just talking about killing terrorists. In the most nondescript and casual way. But also talking about killing innocent men, women and children who are only related to terrorists. And you still voted and support him.

Can you imagine if anyone from the middle east regardless of if they were a terrorist or not had said the same about america/american's? And yet again, you still voted him for him, still supported him and still do.

["I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters."]

On that one he wasn't talking terrorists or terrorist's families. He was talking an america. An american on america's own soil. Broad daylight. With countless witnesses. And you still not only voted for him and supported him but you still do.

 

[deleted15807]

On again off again. Trump is supposed to "address the nation" of the decision to sleepwalk the country into another Middle East war. Expect the worst. I doubt he will but if he does a Q & A over the decision and what his administration's strategy is he will completely become unhinged. At least Bush had a plan even if it was crap for Iraq, it's clear Trump has none for Iran.

 

[deleted15807]

Somebody give Lindsey a rifle and send him to the front in our new war.

Lindsey Graham threatens to take Iran ‘out of the oil business’ in wake of missile strike​

 

[StormfrontFL]

These were the same people who brought you... Drum roll, please... SARAH PALIN!

Do you notice that they all get progressively stupider? George Bush...Sarah Palin...Donald Trump.

 

[gr8gatsby]

What is the difference between taking out Soleiman and Bin Laden?

I thought you were smart enough to know the difference

 

[deleted15807]

Do you notice that they all get progressively stupider? George Bush...Sarah Palin...Donald Trump.

By orders of magnitude stupider. Jaw-dropping progress down the stupid scale. But the billionaires that fund Trump don't care as long as the Orange Goblin and his reptile party lowers their taxes they don't give a shit about the country. They live in completely different world while living the same country as the Trumpsters. The two will never meet but certainly will use each other for mutual real and imagined gain.

 

[gr8gatsby]

Then we killed a civilian? That is your argument? We can kill civilian targets but not military targets?

You are smarter than this ... not very effective trolling

 

[gr8gatsby]

So all the cheerleading for Obama taking out Bin Laden was wrong or right? My position is clear , we should not be in the Middle East, period, and Bush was wrong to get us ensnared there, but lots of Dems( but not Bernie) OKed that entry.

I stated about a month ago HERE when Trump was trying to leave Syria that he was right, we have no strategic interest in the Middle East and we should get out. You in particular said we had to stay so figuratively any bloodshed now is on your hands. Not on mine, I wanted out yesterday's

I was right and you and dust, and every other liberal were wrong and now soaked with figurative blood.

You are comparing apples and toothpaste when considering Obama/Bin Laden vs. Trump/Soliemani

 

[deleted15807]

But the billionaires that fund Trump don't care as long as the Orange Goblin and his reptile party lowers their taxes they don't give a shit about the country. They live in completely different world while living the same country as the Trumpsters.

It should also be noted the billionaires and millionaires funding Trump are borderless. The wealthy today don’t have a country. They move between countries like the poor move between states. They can exploit the nationalism of the Trumpsters while skipping out on the price to that country.

 

[Industrialsize]

Americans Aren't Rallying to Trump
A president who writes off half the country can't expect to garner support from a crisis of his own making.

10:17 AM ET

The Trump administration and its supporters seem to have hoped for a “rally around the flag” effect from the killing of Soleimani. This did not happen. The fundamental geology of Donald Trump’s presidency remains unchanged: A large majority of Americans do not trust him, do not support him, and will not follow him....


.......Trump’s governance itself is legally in question right now. The president has been impeached. Unlike the Clinton impeachment of 1998–99, this process commands the approval of a majority of Americans. On average, more than 50 percent believe the Senate should remove Trump from office. That’s not sufficient to force the Senate to respond, especially not a Senate majority that itself was elected with the support of only a minority of Americans. But it’s certainly sufficient to deprive the president of the legitimacy to lead the nation to war.

The United States finds itself in the dangerous situation of having a president in power but without authority.

He is the least trusted president in the history of polling. Two-thirds of Americans regard him as dishonest. Sixty-one percent say he does not respect democracy.

With the departure of Secretary of Defense James Mattis at the end of 2018, there is no figure left in the administration who does command broad respect from the public, Congress, or American allies—who can credibly step forward and say, “This time, the president is not lying.”
Americans Aren't Rallying to Trump

 

[keenobserver]

George Conway: 'Desperate, Evil' Trump Is Escalating With Iran Because Of Impeachment

 

[deleted15807]

George Conway: 'Desperate, Evil' Trump Is Escalating With Iran Because Of Impeachment

“He’s a narcissistic sociopath. He cares only about himself and not about the country,” Conway noted. “He’s desperate. And evil.”

That can be said about his whole party as they have now become completely supine to Trump however evil or ludicrous his position and they hide behind Fox whenever trapped into actually speaking. And as Nancy Pelosi said "The founding fathers they suspected that we could have a rogue president, and a rogue leader in the Senate at the same time." She could have, of course, included the House as well.

 

[Industrialsize]

This is what we're dealing with: