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Some go as far to say that dude was well on his way to get some really fucked up shit rolling and the US Embassy harassment was just the beginning. The posts sometimes go from English to Arabic and I can't understand it so I don't know the true conversations. I can't trust anything I'm hearing on the news or social media completely, but I've seen other communications that the two party controlled media here in the U.S. is completely ignoring to get the idiots to pick a side on this situation. There is definitely something bad going on, and it should concern us all.

That's the exact same stupid ass shit TRUMP says when he's making shit up.
"Some people are saying".

Iran HAD A DEAL WITH US.

Trump Reneged on that deal and immediately started ratcheting up the hyperbole about Iran being an "enemy".

I have no doubt this Iranian General was doing everything he could think of to PLAN for a US attack.
Trump basically TOLD the world he was gonna do something to Iran.
Exploring ways to defend his country against a guy DETERMINED to attack his nation, militarily or economically WAS HIS FUCKING JOB.

AND- Trump is under attack here at home... I am SURE everyone in charge of Iran understood that a nice WAR is a great way for an unpopular president to get the country behind him. ( Think BUSH and the entirely made up WMDs )


The Pentagon presented the killing of this guy as their "WORST CASE SCENARIO" i.e., something they COULD do, but that would not have a good result.
They were flabbergasted when he chose the WORST possible option on the " How can we hurt Iran" list that Trump DEMANDED they put together for him.
( I bet they are gonna be extra careful what they put on any list of military option in the future )

Oh- and videos of Iraqis "celebrating" ? you have no clue whether those folks are actually celebrating that Iran announced they are Kicking the US out of their country.

FINALLY.




The only thing we can be pretty sure of is that somewhere on Putin's list of things Trump has to do for Vlad is "start some shit with Iran "
 

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That's the exact same stupid ass shit TRUMP says when he's making shit up.
"Some people are saying".

Iran HAD A DEAL WITH US.

Trump Reneged on that deal and immediately started ratcheting up the hyperbole about Iran being an "enemy".

I have no doubt this Iranian General was doing everything he could think of to PLAN for a US attack.
Trump basically TOLD the world he was gonna do something to Iran.
Exploring ways to defend his country against a guy DETERMINED to attack his nation, militarily or economically WAS HIS FUCKING JOB.

AND- Trump is under attack here at home... I am SURE everyone in charge of Iran understood that a nice WAR is a great way for an unpopular president to get the country behind him. ( Think BUSH and the entirely made up WMDs )


The Pentagon presented the killing of this guy as their "WORST CASE SCENARIO" i.e., something they COULD do, but that would not have a good result.
They were flabbergasted when he chose the WORST possible option on the " How can we hurt Iran" list that Trump DEMANDED they put together for him.
( I bet they are gonna be extra careful what they put on any list of military option in the future )

Oh- and videos of Iraqis "celebrating" ? you have no clue whether those folks are actually celebrating that Iran announced they are Kicking the US out of their country.

FINALLY.




The only thing we can be pretty sure of is that somewhere on Putin's list of things Trump has to do for Vlad is "start some shit with Iran "

The "some people are saying" are the voices inside Don the Con's head.
 

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While true, they had a little help from Comey who decided to re-open the investigation at the 11 hour and a little help from Bernie who IS NOT a Democrat and certainly split the party. Just sayin'.
Bernie did not split the party- HE voted for hillary.

PUTIN split the party with a sophisticated campaign of misinformation aimed at driving a wedge between liberal factions- with the help of Fox News and the GOP.

Don't blame a candidate for the the fact that social media has been weaponized all across the democratic nations of the west to foster division.

If bernie does not get the nom this time- He will STILL vote democrat and still back the nominee.
And anyone who votes third party is a fucking moron.

ETA- assuming ANY of our voting machines can be trusted with the GOP firmly in the pocket of the kleptocrats.
 

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That's the exact same stupid ass shit TRUMP says when he's making shit up.
"Some people are saying".

Iran HAD A DEAL WITH US.

Trump Reneged on that deal and immediately started ratcheting up the hyperbole about Iran being an "enemy".

I have no doubt this Iranian General was doing everything he could think of to PLAN for a US attack.
Trump basically TOLD the world he was gonna do something to Iran.
Exploring ways to defend his country against a guy DETERMINED to attack his nation, militarily or economically WAS HIS FUCKING JOB.

AND- Trump is under attack here at home... I am SURE everyone in charge of Iran understood that a nice WAR is a great way for an unpopular president to get the country behind him. ( Think BUSH and the entirely made up WMDs )


The Pentagon presented the killing of this guy as their "WORST CASE SCENARIO" i.e., something they COULD do, but that would not have a good result.
They were flabbergasted when he chose the WORST possible option on the " How can we hurt Iran" list that Trump DEMANDED they put together for him.
( I bet they are gonna be extra careful what they put on any list of military option in the future )

Oh- and videos of Iraqis "celebrating" ? you have no clue whether those folks are actually celebrating that Iran announced they are Kicking the US out of their country.

FINALLY.




The only thing we can be pretty sure of is that somewhere on Putin's list of things Trump has to do for Vlad is "start some shit with Iran "

EDIT: - as always great post. Thank you for it. Iraq is kicking us out - we're not in Iran (yet).
 

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I'm thinking that's the point. That america does end up and stays alone. It's like rule number one for abusers. Isolate the victim from others who will or might help them. Then said abuser has free reign over them. Trump, republicans and conservatives in general are america's abusers.
I don't think Trump has ever operated from the perspective of a goal. I think he reels from one con to the next like drunk on a pub crawl.

But Isolating America thru Trumpism, Isolating Britain thru Brexit, dividing Spain thru the Catalon independence movement and polarizing France and Germany thru promoting right wing extremism and xenophobia via social media are ALL actions the definitively benefit Putin.


This is just further proof the Trump is Putin's tool.

Folks- we are under attack and have been since 2015.
 

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Can someone please just fucking assassinate the #racistrapist currently sitting in the white house/

Sound extreme ??? He nor his anchor baby children will ever go away. We will never be done with this fucking mess.

The world is tired.

The rest of us are really fucking tired of holding our breath, as we have been since November 2016.

This is some fucked up distraction because he got caught, in yet another fucked up scheme, that did not work.

Can the 43% of Americans not see, and understand, as the rest of us on the planet that this idiot has failed at everything he has attempted in his lifetime? Unless it is a scam, or fraud, he cannot succeed at anything.
 

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Can someone please just fucking assassinate the #racistrapist currently sitting in the white house/

Sound extreme ??? He nor his anchor baby children will ever go away. We will never be done with this fucking mess.

The world is tired.

The rest of us are really fucking tired of holding our breath, as we have been since November 2016.

This is some fucked up distraction because he got caught, in yet another fucked up scheme, that did not work.

Can the 43% of Americans not see, and understand, as the rest of us on the planet that this idiot has failed at everything he has attempted in his lifetime? Unless it is a scam, or fraud, he cannot succeed at anything.
Can someone please just fucking assassinate the #racistrapist currently sitting in the white house/

Sound extreme ??? He nor his anchor baby children will ever go away. We will never be done with this fucking mess.

The world is tired.

The rest of us are really fucking tired of holding our breath, as we have been since November 2016.

This is some fucked up distraction because he got caught, in yet another fucked up scheme, that did not work.

Can the 43% of Americans not see, and understand, as the rest of us on the planet that this idiot has failed at everything he has attempted in his lifetime? Unless it is a scam, or fraud, he cannot succeed at anything.

If we're being honest - he doesn't do fraud or scams very well either. I mean this is a guy who bankrupted multiple casinos, an airline, a fake University and got caught robbing his own charity.
 

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Bernie did not split the party- HE voted for hillary.

PUTIN split the party with a sophisticated campaign of misinformation aimed at driving a wedge between liberal factions- with the help of Fox News and the GOP.

Don't blame a candidate for the the fact that social media has been weaponized all across the democratic nations of the west to foster division.

If bernie does not get the nom this time- He will STILL vote democrat and still back the nominee.
And anyone who votes third party is a fucking moron.

ETA- assuming ANY of our voting machines can be trusted with the GOP firmly in the pocket of the kleptocrats.

It doesn't matter WTF he voted. When he chose to run as a Democrat, he should have registered as a Democrat. PERIOD! It's part of what is called a "Party Platform." If you don't think he split the party, you're as dense as any Trumpster.
 
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No, the reason we have an unfit president in the White house is because the Democrats ran a lousy and lazy campaign. They have only themselves to blame for this.

Trump was at the bottom of the republican cesspool in May 2015 then in June 2015 he bashed Mexico and Mexicans by July he topped the pile. Nothing like a little racism and bigotry to ignite the deplorables coupled with some help from Foxy News, Putin, Comey and the Electoral College and mission accomplished.
 

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It doesn't matter WTF he voted. When he chose to run as a Democrat, he should have registered as a Democrat. PERIOD! It's part of what is called a "Party Platform." If you don't think he split the party, you're as dense as any Trumpster.

Bernie would have clobbered Trump in 2016.
 
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Shoulda, woulda, coulda. He might have if he ran as a Dem and constructed a consensus party platform around him. He did not. It's what the Democrats are still missing. (...and, BTW, like it or not, it does take joining the party. IDK what people don't get about that.)
 

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Can someone please just fucking assassinate the #racistrapist currently sitting in the white house/

Sound extreme ??? He nor his anchor baby children will ever go away. We will never be done with this fucking mess.

The world is tired.

The rest of us are really fucking tired of holding our breath, as we have been since November 2016.

This is some fucked up distraction because he got caught, in yet another fucked up scheme, that did not work.

Can the 43% of Americans not see, and understand, as the rest of us on the planet that this idiot has failed at everything he has attempted in his lifetime? Unless it is a scam, or fraud, he cannot succeed at anything.

Well, call me crazy, but as much as I loath the man, what he's done to our country, and how, via the bile of his malignant rhetoric he's brought this nation's vermin up from the gutters of our society and given them VOICE,

by empowered a venomous ideology of HATE,

I CANNOT condone something like this.

I guess maybe I still have too much respect (at least) for rule of law, for government, and for our institutions, even though Trump himself works to hobble, undermine, disband, and subvert them to HIS will.

Rather we should let our sense of outrage and horror at what he's brought us to, or sense of propriety and justice, and right and wrong, give us wings enough to take flight - and SPEED us to the POLLS this November.

DISEMPOWERING them, would be the cruelest cut of all.
 
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Meanwhile, government by TWEET:

Trump Doubles Down On Threats To Strike Iranian Cultural Sites | HuffPost
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trum...ian-cultural-sites_n_5e12ac5ce4b0843d3614b961
"Donald Trump doubled down Sunday on his belief that the United States military has the right to target Iranian cultural sites, dismissing concerns from the public and even from his own administration that he would be committing a war crime by doing so.

Many responded to his tweet by reminding him that attacking cultural sites and places of worship are war crimes under international law.

The U.S. is a party to the 1954 Hague Convention, a treaty on international law that protect cultural property in the event of armed conflict. Signatories adopted the treaty because “damage to cultural property belonging to any people ever means damage to the cultural heritage of all mankind.”"


AND IN OTHER NEWS:

'You're not a dictator': House committee jabs back at Trump after he said he could strike Iran without notifying Congress
https://www.yahoo.com/news/youre-not-dictator-house-committee-033956028.html?guccounter=1
Uhhhhh... Earth to Congress, he sure as hell THINKS he is.
 

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Well, call me crazy, but as much as I loath the man, what he's done to our country, and how, via the bile of his malignant rhetoric he's brought this nation's vermin up from the gutters of our society and given them VOICE,

by empowered a venomous ideology of HATE,

I CANNOT condone something like this.

I guess maybe I still have too much respect (at least) for rule of law, for government, and for our institutions, even though Trump himself works to hobble, undermine, disband, and subvert them to HIS will.

Rather we should let our sense of outrage and horror at what he's brought us to, or sense of propriety and justice, and right and wrong, give us wings enough to take flight - and SPEED us to the POLLS this November.

DISEMPOWERING them, would be the cruelest cut of all.

Besides all that does is give us Mike pence

All those "evangelical's" who were all "it's about the judges:' and voted for Trump will turn out in Droves to Vote for Pence because he is really and truly "one of them" . Those white soccer moms in teh burbs who justify it by saying "I voted against Hillary" will crawl over broken glass to vote for Pence

It may be a squeaker at it may be different states and he may loose the popular vote by even MORE but he could eak outa an electoral college win
 
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Backfired:

President Trump thought the nuclear deal was flawed because restrictions on Iran would end after 15 years. Now, responding to a U.S. strike, Iran has declared the limits over after less than five.

Iran Challenges Trump, Announcing End of Nuclear Restrictions
Of course there is no strategy behind the strike other than "wait and hope" Iran comes around.
 
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I can't trust anything I'm hearing on the news or social media completely, but I've seen other communications that the two party controlled media here in the U.S. is completely ignoring to get the idiots to pick a side on this situation.

It's pretty tragic you're using social media for anything other than lite entertainment as it is the #1 tool for despots around the world to get the propaganda out and for free no less. In the old days it was impossible but now thanks to Facebook, Google, etc its free and worldwide. You can even live stream your own mass shooting on that crap.
 

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Are you really that gullible? Guess what would happen to people celebrating in public in Iran? Yet in social media they in fact are celebrating. As for celebrations in public in Iraq: lots of people are posting videos of themselves celebrating in the streets of iraqi towns. Besides all the people on social media I'll repeat another time that there are plenty of articles I provided in my initial post. And no they are not republican sources. Anyway, if you choose to continue ignoring like 90% of what I said there is no second more to be wasted here. Continue with your anti-trump circle jerk. I'll be just glad that a monster is gone for good.

I was wondering why you bringing this up sounded so familiar. Was wondering where i heard that kind of talk from. And why it mattered.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...slims-celebrated-the-911-attacks/?arc404=true

Video Debunks Trump's Claim That American Muslims Cheered 9/11

Trump Insists He Witnessed Cheering Muslims on 9/11

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

“Bigotry against any group should be disqualifying for high office.”
 

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It's pretty tragic you're using social media for anything other than lite entertainment as it is the #1 tool for despots around the world to get the propaganda out and for free no less. In the old days it was impossible but now thanks to Facebook, Google, etc its free and worldwide. You can even live stream your own mass shooting on that crap.

The number one thing that to me was always so head scratching bizarro world unbelievable were all these people who would say "I get ALL my news from facebook.

To me it was always "what kind of GD fucking IDIOT do you have to be to get ALL your news from something that started out as a glorified dating site and method to share cat video's and has the Mantra "we will let ANYONE post ANYTHING at ANY TIME and will give less than shit about if it is true or not".

To put it in perspective and a visual on it

The kooky looking guy back in the day in Times Square with the sandwich board reading "the world is about to end"

Or something to that effect

You are getting your news from HIM

Hopefully one does not use only one source which ever that source may be and look at a lot, a wide range and be smart enough to know and see the difference between "news" and the "opinion pages" to try to figure out what is what

It would be like saying 10 -15 years ago "I get ALL my news from "The Daily Show" or "the Colbert Report" ignoring that they appear on COMEDY CENTRAL
 
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The number one thing that to me was always so head scratching bizarro world unbelievable were all these people who would say "I get ALL my news from facebook.

To me it was always "what kind of GD fucking IDIOT do you have to be to get ALL your news from something that started out as a glorified dating site and method to share cat video's and has the Mantra "we will let ANYONE post ANYTHING at ANY TIME and will give less than shit about if it is true or not".

To put it in perspective and a visual on it

The kooky looking guy back in the day in Times Square with the sandwich board reading "the world is about to end"

Or something to that effect

You are getting your news from HIM

Hopefully one does not use only one source which ever that source may be and look at a lot, a wide range and be smart enough to know and see the difference between "news" and the "opinion pages" to try to figure out what is what

It would be like saying 10 -15 years ago "I get ALL my news from "The Daily Show" or "the Colbert Report" ignoring that they appear on COMEDY CENTRAL

I'm not sure humanity will survive social media. We just aren't that smart or critical enough. Once deep fakes begin spreading and lets hope they never do but if they do and are widely believed it's game over.

As for the US it may not survive Fox News. Germany had to be defeated to shut down their version of Fox and now they have laws that prevent a Fox News from recurring. Fox/GOPTV operates outside any kind of oversight or ethical guidelines. It has aligned itself with one political party and in fact was once run by a strategist from that party. The framers could have never imagined the press would be as corrupt as a president and an entire political party. But here we are.


The US needs something like what the Germans have but conservatives would immediately recognize the danger in having to be honest and truthful about their policies and who they are meant to benefit and harm and thus would fight it to the end.

German Press Council