Trump bows out too

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Even if he wasn't serious, it's not as if Trump took it upon himself to become an insult comic either. Many of the things he said (and demanded) during his uber-egotistical, attention grabbing stunt was beyond ignorant, and for that I don't care if his short-lived run for the presidency was just a publicity stunt OR a joke. This failed faster than his three chapter elevens. From my standpoint, he realized real quick that without stupid stuff like birth certificates he had no way to rally any base, or have any voices of support behind him when other candidates and/or political analysts starting questioning his own character.

Good riddance to such a schmuck.

I like you're version better, thank you.:biggrin1:
 

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absolute Wanker extrodinaire
stoopid pursuit of Baracks Birth Cert
Knows now he would get bugger all support for its campaign
only sensible thing its done is not enter the race.
even we down here could see such idiocy.
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If anyone needs any more evidence that the Republicans are throwing in the towel completely we got it today when Trump decided not to waste his money, time or name on a hopeless race.

Maybe Jeb Bush will step up to the plate. I'd love to see another Bush get his ass kicked.

I agree with you on Trump, but for all intensive purposes Jeb Bush has been a solid governor for the state of Florida. The only reason people bash him is because of the last name.
 

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News from Fox and Friends: The mainstream media drove Trump out of the presidential race by constantly attacking him because he was such a formidable threat to President Obama--the "attacking" consisting in showing him flapping his stupid, egomaniacal mouth in public and making an ass of himself for all to see. (Video at Crooks and Liars.)

for all intensive purposes

:pat: For all intents and purposes
 

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News from Fox and Friends: The mainstream media drove Trump out of the presidential race by constantly attacking him because he was such a formidable threat to President Obama--the "attacking" consisting in showing him flapping his stupid, egomaniacal mouth in public and making an ass of himself for all to see. (Video at Crooks and Liars.)



:pat: For all intents and purposes

Bump.:rolleyes:
 

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I agree with you on Trump, but for all intensive purposes Jeb Bush has been a solid governor for the state of Florida. The only reason people bash him is because of the last name.

You mean it's only because of his last name? Nah, it couldn't have ANYTHING to do with Jeb's involvement with the S&L Scandal, or mysterious funds he may have received from Tenet Healthcare (among other things). Yeah, it's only because his last name is BUSH.

Not to throw the thread off topic or anything, but not everyone who is against the politicians you support do so for something as frivolous as having an infamous last name. That would be like calling Obama un-American because his middle name was "Hussein".

Oh wait...:rolleyes:
 
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:smile:Good riddance to that skanly, lying scumbag who was the best U.S.- based recruiter for Al-Qayda EVER. he is the worst face of how ugly capitalism can be. his TV program is pure trash and has no relevance to what it takes to be either a good CEO or a good employee in the private or public sector. my dog has better manners than him , and a better haircut as well.
God bless President Obama. Go to hell GOP and take the Donald with you. soon.

YOu don't have to support Trump for Pres (lord knows I don't), but you cannot imply he's not a good businessman with a straight face! I've never seen the Apprentice. Don't much care for his manner, care even less for his haircut, but c'mon, give the man his due where it's deserved.

Based on your god bless...go to hell quote, allow me to say that it is people like you that make me realize how blessed I am to no longer being a taxpaying California citizen :)
 

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YOu don't have to support Trump for Pres (lord knows I don't), but you cannot imply he's not a good businessman with a straight face!

Trump was born rich and he's rich and famous right now, but his record is terrible. An article slated for publication in Rolling Stone has the title "The Many Business Failures of Donald Trump" and the lead: "He's running for president (maybe) on his business record. One problem: that record sucks." But, as the text of that article is not yet available on line, let's just look at Wikipedia and see what we find. Hmm. . . .
Wikipedia said:
By 1989, the effects of the recession left Trump unable to meet loan payments. Trump financed the construction of his third casino, the $1 billion Taj Mahal, primarily with high-interest junk bonds. Although he shored up his businesses with additional loans and postponed interest payments, by 1991 increasing debt brought Trump to business bankruptcy[38] and the brink of personal bankruptcy. Banks and bond holders had lost hundreds of millions of dollars, but opted to restructure his debt to avoid the risk of losing more money in court. The Taj Mahal re-emerged from bankruptcy on October 5, 1991, with Trump ceding 50% ownership in the casino to the original bondholders in exchange for lowered interest rates on the debt and more time to pay it off.[49]

On November 2, 1992, the Trump Plaza Hotel was forced to file a prepackaged Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection plan after being unable to make its debt payments. Under the plan, Trump agreed to give up a 49% stake in the luxury hotel to Citibank and five other lenders. In return Trump would receive more favorable terms on the remaining $550+ million owed to the lenders and retain his position as chief executive, though he would not be paid and would not have a role in day-to-day operations.[50]

By 1994, Trump had eliminated a large portion of his $900 million personal debt[51] and reduced significantly his nearly $3.5 billion in business debt. While he was forced to relinquish the Trump Shuttle (which he had bought in 1989), he managed to retain Trump Tower in New York City and control of his three casinos in Atlantic City. Chase Manhattan Bank, which lent Trump the money to buy the West Side yards, his biggest Manhattan parcel, forced the sale of a parcel to Asian developers. According to former members of the Trump Organization, Trump did not retain any ownership of the site's real estate – the owners merely promised to give him about 30 percent of the profits once the site was completely developed or sold. Until that time, the owners wanted to keep Trump on to do what he did best: build things. They gave him a modest construction fee and a management fee to oversee the development. The new owners also allowed him to put his name on the buildings that eventually rose on the yards because his well-known moniker allowed them to charge a premium for their condos.[52]

Trump was elected to the Gaming Hall of Fame in 1995.[53]

In 1995, he combined his casino holdings into the publicly held Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts. Wall Street drove its stock above $35 in 1996, but by 1998 it had fallen into single digits as the company remained profitless and struggled to pay just the interest on its nearly $3 billion in debt. Under such financial pressure, the properties were unable to make the improvements necessary for keeping up with their flashier competitors.

Doesn't sound like much of a businessman to me.
 

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YOu don't have to support Trump for Pres (lord knows I don't), but you cannot imply he's not a good businessman with a straight face! I've never seen the Apprentice. Don't much care for his manner, care even less for his haircut, but c'mon, give the man his due where it's deserved.

Trump was involved with at least three chapter elevens over the last few decades. Therefore, questioning his business sense is more than valid. And I'm doing this with a "gayly forward" face since according to you we can't do it with a straight one.
 

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News from Fox and Friends: The mainstream media drove Trump out of the presidential race by constantly attacking him because he was such a formidable threat to President Obama--the "attacking" consisting in showing him flapping his stupid, egomaniacal mouth in public and making an ass of himself for all to see. (Video at Crooks and Liars.)



:pat: For all intents and purposes

Brain crash!

As to VB, you would be hard-pressed to find a single politician without any failures or questionable moments in their past wouldn't you? I would say Jeb Bush has done a solid job as governor. Notice I didn't say spectacular or terrible. People tend to go over the top on him because of his last name - due to his brother's rather unpopular presidency - without looking at his overall record as a politician.

And please don't insinuate, as you tend to do, that I believe something I don't. It's rather childish :rolleyes:

After all, our first president's name was George. Just happened to be the name of the king of the empire we broke away from.
 

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Trump was born rich and he's rich and famous right now, but his record is terrible. An article slated for publication in Rolling Stone has the title "The Many Business Failures of Donald Trump" and the lead: "He's running for president (maybe) on his business record. One problem: that record sucks." But, as the text of that article is not yet available on line, let's just look at Wikipedia and see what we find. Hmm. . . .


Doesn't sound like much of a businessman to me.

On the other hand, he went bankrupt and then eliminated most of his debt. Perhaps he would be the perfect president for this era of the United States.
 

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As to VB, you would be hard-pressed to find a single politician without any failures or questionable moments in their past wouldn't you?

Nope. I can't be adamant to look for something that I already know doesn't exist. :rolleyes:

I would say Jeb Bush has done a solid job as governor. Notice I didn't say spectacular or terrible. People tend to go over the top on him because of his last name - due to his brother's rather unpopular presidency - without looking at his overall record as a politician.

Well, I'm letting you know that there are some people who don't do stupid things like go by a person's name when judging their ability to do a job. Yet when I provided two, real political incidents related to Jeb Bush that do raise questions from his critics, you then go on and provide a ridiculous, red herring of a response about searching for a politician with an unblemished record. Oy vey. :rolleyes:

And please don't insinuate, as you tend to do, that I believe something I don't. It's rather childish.

I honestly don't give a damn what you believe at this point. Also, it's rather hypocritical of you to accuse me of insinuating something when you started your response with one.

After all, our first president's name was George. Just happened to be the name of the king of the empire we broke away from.

And our current president's name is Barack. Your point? :rolleyes:

On the other hand, he went bankrupt and then eliminated most of his debt. Perhaps he would be the perfect president for this era of the United States.

Going bankrupt is not a sign of success. Going by the rhetoric of most Libertarians and Conservatives at this point, someone like Trump should have worked hard and paid all of that debt off. He should have cut his budgets, stopped the excess spending and not rely on governing authorities to take care of his needs. Apparently, he couldn't do that. But he was nasty to Obama so all is conveniently forgotten, eh?
 
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Trump was involved with at least three chapter elevens over the last few decades. Therefore, questioning his business sense is more than valid. And I'm doing this with a "gayly forward" face since according to you we can't do it with a straight one.

Didn't know about those chapter 11's, thank's for that info.:smile:
 

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Nope. I can't be adamant to look for something that I already know doesn't exist. :rolleyes:

So you clarify my point that all politicians have faults that one could pick out and provide as ammunition against them in the capacity of their job. Thank you for the back-up friend!

Well, I'm letting you know that there are some people who don't do stupid things like go by a person's name when judging their ability to do a job. Yet when I provided two, real political incidents related to Jeb Bush that do raise questions from his critics, you then go on and provide a ridiculous, red herring of a response about searching for a politician with an unblemished record. Oy vey. :rolleyes:

Yes! We agree again! As I said, I happen to be one of those people too! And I am in agreement with you that Jeb Bush is not a perfect politician! However, I think you can see that it would be apparent that he would get a bad name for being a member of the Bush family because A. His brother's unpopular presidency and B. People don't want to see 3 our of last 5 presidents ascend from the same family. A bit too much like a monarchy if you know what I mean. If his last name were Harris, I don't think he would receive the same vitriol. And I completely understand you pointing out some of his negative faults. Perhaps you could do some research on some of his positive attributes as well? Or maybe you are far too left-wing for such a sensible practice :rolleyes:

I honestly don't give a damn what you believe at this point. Also, it's rather hypocritical of you to accuse me of insinuating something when you started your response with one.

"Brain crash!" is an insinuation? I thought that was my admittance to an error. Perhaps you need to reacquaint yourself with Webster's old friend!

And our current president's name is Barack. Your point? :rolleyes:

My point, is that ignorant people tend to use the fact that President Obama's middle name is the same as the first name of a certain enemy of our country. You know the same people who would hail George Washington as a founding father and never question the fact that he had the same name as our enemy King George. I would have that that was obvious, as I was agreeing with you and helping you prove your point. Perhaps you should retire the eye-roll till you are ready to use it big guy!

Going bankrupt is not a sign of success. Going by the rhetoric of most Libertarians and Conservatives at this point, someone like Trump should have worked hard and paid all of that debt off. He should have cut his budgets, stopped the excess spending and not rely on governing authorities to take care of his needs. Apparently, he couldn't do that. But he was nasty to Obama so all is conveniently forgotten, eh?

LOL. This is where you lose the plot. This is what we call a joke. Honestly, I see where you missed it: You live in a world where EVERYTHING is Left or Right and cannot comprehend that there are people such as myself who see both sides to an issue or even the humor in something as ridiculous as a bankrupted business man would be a quality candidate for president. Take of the Lefty shades my friend. You'll find a lot more truth looking at things from the middle.
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So you clarify my point that all politicians have faults that one could pick out and provide as ammunition against them in the capacity of their job. Thank you for the back-up friend!

Actually, I've been saying this on this board for several years now. MUCH longer than you've ever been here. So no, I'm not "backing you up". I'm dismissing another one of your ridiculous character accusations of me.

My point, is that ignorant people tend to use the fact that President Obama's middle name is the same as the first name of a certain enemy of our country. You know the same people who would hail George Washington as a founding father and never question the fact that he had the same name as our enemy King George. I would have that that was obvious, as I was agreeing with you and helping you prove your point. Perhaps you should retire the eye-roll till you are ready to use it big guy!

You have a very weird way of showing support to another person's post.

LOL. This is where you lose the plot. This is what we call a joke. Honestly, I see where you missed it: You live in a world where EVERYTHING is Left or Right and cannot comprehend that there are people such as myself who see both sides to an issue or even the humor in something as ridiculous as a bankrupted business man would be a quality candidate for president. Take of the Lefty shades my friend. You'll find a lot more truth looking at things from the middle.

Remember what I said about making ridiculous character accusations? Yeah, take it to heart. Because quite frankly, sir, when it comes to my beliefs and my abilities to look at political issues objectively, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. And I don't have to declare that I'm "in the middle" (unlike some other political ideologues desperate for board relevance) or anywhere else on the political spectrum to express this.
 

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Because quite frankly, sir, when it comes to my beliefs and my abilities to look at political issues objectively, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. And I don't have to declare that I'm "in the middle" (unlike some other political ideologues desperate for board relevance) or anywhere else on the political spectrum to express this.

I know people don't like to think their easy to read, but you sir, are See Spot Run. :biggrin1: