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WashingtonPost.com:
The Trump case may be unusual. But if true, it’s brazen tax fraud.
Opinion by Ruth Marcus

“We don’t pay taxes. Only the little people pay taxes.” So said the late real estate tycoon Leona Helmsley, according to her housekeeper. To be more precise: according to her housekeeper’s testimony at Helmsley’s trial on tax fraud charges. Charges brought by one Rudolph W. Giuliani, then the U.S. attorney for Manhattan. Charges on which she was convicted — and served 18 months.

So let’s hear nothing, not a word, about the supposed unfairness of the indictment a New York state grand jury handed up on Thursday of the Trump Organization and its former chief financial officer on tax fraud charges, the details of which sound positively Helmsley-esque.

The “Queen of Mean” evaded $1.2 million in taxes by charging personal expenses, including renovations of her Connecticut estate, to the Helmsley hotel chain.


“You were not driven to this crime by financial need,” the judge lectured Helmsley at her sentencing. “Rather, your conduct was the product of naked greed. Throughout its course, you persisted in the arrogant belief that you were above the law.”

Sounds familiar. Previous reporting about the Trump family’s tax returns portrays a multigenerational family enterprise devoted to tax avoidance, if not outright evasion. Thursday’s 15-count indictment lays out a separate, sprawling, 15-year conspiracy to funnel millions in unreported compensation — in the form of rent-free Manhattan apartments, leased Mercedes, private-school tuition payments, and the like — to senior Trump Organization executives, including CFO Allen Weisselberg, who allegedly received $1.76 million on which he paid no taxes. Both Weisselberg and lawyers for the Trump Organization pleaded not guilty.

“To put it bluntly, this was a sweeping and audacious illegal payments scheme,” Carey Dunne, general counsel for the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office, said at the arraignment “Contrary to today’s assertion by the company’s former CEO, this is not a ‘standard practice in the business community,’ nor was it the act of a rogue or isolated employee.”

Granted, it’s unusual to bring a criminal tax case involving the failure to pay taxes on fringe benefits. To take one relevant example, the Internal Revenue Service dunned Ronald and Nancy Reagan for back taxes plus interest for failing to report the value of $3 million free clothes, jewelry, furs and designer dresses she received; that was a civil penalty, not a criminal prosecution.

But it’s also unusual for prosecutors to amass the kind of damning evidence of intent laid out in the indictment. Nancy Reagan probably didn’t give a second thought to the tax consequences of her designer freebies; the Trump Organization and Weisselberg appear to have thought about nothing but tax consequences. Normal businesses don’t keep two sets of books, one for the tax authorities and the other for internal use. No self-respecting prosecutor would look at this kind of evidence and take a pass.

Two things stand out in the indictment: the seemingly boundless intensity of Weisselberg’s greed and, more legally significant, the degree to which the Trump Organization was aware of, and benefited from, the tax scheme.


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always remember Willie only the liberal media and dems say insurrection.
release the video and shooters name then we can label what it was....

"Willie"? Really? YOU may not call it an insurrection... But watch this start to finish. Yes it's was put out by what tRump calls the "lying" NY Times. But the video and data show a premeditated attack on the Capital. It shows the conspiracy, the synced timelines of the militias, and the prior preparation. It was an insurrection. You're just pissed they didn't follow thru and you know it.
Inside the Capitol Riot: An Exclusive Video Investigation

Btw, YOU might even enjoy it. It shows just how much preparation YOUR people put into planning this. You think that gallows hauled out there that day for Pence was spur of the moment?
 

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"Willie"? Really? YOU may not call it an insurrection... But watch this start to finish. Yes it's was put out by what tRump calls the "lying" NY Times. But the video and data show a premeditated attack on the Capital. It shows the conspiracy, the synced timelines of the militias, and the prior preparation. It was an insurrection. You're just pissed they didn't follow thru and you know it.
Inside the Capitol Riot: An Exclusive Video Investigation

Btw, YOU might even enjoy it. It shows just how much preparation YOUR people put into planning this. You think that gallows hauled out there that day for Pence was spur of the moment?
"Your people"- how dare you. Everyone is a citizen of this country whether they live in a fly over state or the filthy urinal you call home. We are all citizens with a voice. Equal protection or justice under the law means just that. Not just for the Floyd riot and looting. Release the video tapes and the name of the Ashley Babbit shooter. Do it now. The law is Freedom of Information Act
How many undercover FBI agents were in that crowd of overweight Harley riders that day?
 
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"Your people"- how dare you. Everyone is a citizen of this country whether they live in a fly over state or the filthy urinal you call home. We are all citizens with a voice. Equal protection or justice under the law means just that. Not just for the Floyd riot and looting. Release the video tapes and the name of the Ashley Babbit shooter. Do it now. The law is Freedom of Information Act
How many undercover FBI agents were in that crowd of overweight Harley riders that day?

You just spelled it out without even watching the video. The fact that you refused to watch the actual timeline unfold is very telling. So again... I say "your people" because you are part of a group that supported the Insurrection (Yes it was that). The fact it failed is what really pisses you off. You can't change history with "whataboutisms". I rest my case.

"Willie"
 
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"Your people"- how dare you. Everyone is a citizen of this country whether they live in a fly over state or the filthy urinal you call home. We are all citizens with a voice. Equal protection or justice under the law means just that. Not just for the Floyd riot and looting. Release the video tapes and the name of the Ashley Babbit shooter. Do it now. The law is Freedom of Information Act ...How many undercover FBI agents were in that crowd of overweight Harley riders that day?

@cycleguy - Mind if I re-post this in the "What Made You Laugh Today?" thread?


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@cycleguy - Mind if I re-post this in the "What Made You Laugh Today?" thread?

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Whats so funny? That all citizens of this country are entitled to equal protection or even due process. What would be hysterical for your repost is if you could post whether you agree or disagree with others political view or even who they voted for you still see them as fellow countrymen. What divides us is far greater than what units us- everyone needs to take note of that.
Like it or not Ashley Babbitt and her family are protected by the same constitution as the Floyd family.
 

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Whats so funny? That all citizens of this country are entitled to equal protection or even due process. What would be hysterical for your repost is if you could post whether you agree or disagree with others political view or even who they voted for you still see them as fellow countrymen. What divides us is far greater than what units us- everyone needs to take note of that.
Like it or not Ashley Babbitt and her family are protected by the same constitution as the Floyd family.
Ashley Babbit was trying to disrupt a constitutionally mandated government procedure.......
3 U.S. Code § 15 - Counting electoral votes in Congress
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3 U.S. Code § 15 - Counting electoral votes in Congress
 

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Whats so funny? That all citizens of this country are entitled to equal protection or even due process. What would be hysterical for your repost is if you could post whether you agree or disagree with others political view or even who they voted for you still see them as fellow countrymen. What divides us is far greater than what units us- everyone needs to take note of that.
Like it or not Ashley Babbitt and her family are protected by the same constitution as the Floyd family.
My comment was about the Insurrection. Yet you jump around with "whataboutisms". On the day our Congress was holding a Constitutionally mandated process... Your people planned for weeks to interrupt it and almost succeeded. Nothing about "equal protection or due process".

Here, this is another one of YOUR PEOPLE: Federal agents say when they arrested Jan 6 defendant Robert Morss of Pennsylvania, they found guns, a notebook featuring "Step by step to create hometown militia" and.... *Fully constructed US Capitol lego set".
 
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My comment was about the Insurrection. Yet you jump around with "whataboutisms". On the day our Congress was holding a Constitutionally mandated process... Your people planned for weeks to interrupt it and almost succeeded. Nothing about "equal protection or due process".

Here, this is another one of YOUR PEOPLE: Federal agents say when they arrested Jan 6 defendant Robert Morss of Pennsylvania, they found guns, a notebook featuring "Step by step to create hometown militia" and.... *Fully constructed US Capitol lego set".
Sounds passionate and well argued. Show my the video surveillance of what happened. Nothing to hide then show it.

If you and your people want any credibility with me then youll have to address and stop ignoring the violence currently going on in our country.
 

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Im not disputing that. George Floyd was attempting to pass counterfeit currency while high. Why full transparency with him and not her? Could someone please tell me why the double standard?? Who was the shooter?
The shooter in the George Floyd case committed a crime. The shooter of Ashli Babbit was protecting the capitol and did not commit a crime.