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Yes, he said that.

He is 21 now and was a minor when Trump first started campaigning. So you are free to make up your own mind about whether or not you believe that Trump had no influence on him when he's using a lot of the same language as Trump and if you think some high schooler self-developed a deep concern about the tax burdens associated to undocumented immigrants.

So we aren’t going to believe his own writings? Why not? Youth? Then 18 year olds shouldn’t be trusted to vote?

Why not take his writings as proof of his thoughts and beliefs? This is really important stuff actually. Report on what he actually said rather than what you think he was saying thru the prism of your particular bias.
 

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The manifesto promotes the white nationalist and far-right conspiracy theory of The Great Replacement.[37] The New York Times characterized the manifesto as racially extremist, noting the passage: "Hispanics will take control of the local and state government of my beloved Texas, changing policy to better suit their needs." It states that Hispanics and their intermarriage with whites would cause the loss of purity of race. It criticizes strict gun control laws in Europe, arguing these would make them unable to "repel" immigrants.[11] It criticizes both the Democratic Party and Republican Party, saying that their politicians are either complacent or involved in the "takeover of the United States government by unchecked corporations."[32] However, the manifesto states that "at least with Republicans, the process of mass immigration and citizenship can be greatly reduced."[38] It warns that "heavy Hispanic population in Texas will make us a Democrat stronghold".[22] It also states that the Democratic Party's appeal to an increasing number of Hispanics in the country would ultimately ensure Democratic Party dominance in the United States, a theory that has been promoted on right-wing radio shows.[37] According to the document, the attack was meant to provide an "incentive" for Hispanics to "return to their home countries", thus dissolving "the Hispanic voting bloc" in the United States.[38]
2019 El Paso shooting - Wikipedia
 
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Right winged talking points... meaning their typical, twisted, bullshit right winged spin designed to cover for narrow-minded bigots, racists, terrorists, supremacists, and murderers.

"Alternate facts" for the sick ------------- mentalities.

The right’s attempt to downplay the specifically ideological context of the El Paso massacre is a transparently self-serving effort to absolve the president of moral responsibility for his demagogic rhetoric. This, too, doesn’t wash. The president is guilty, in a broad sense, of a form of incitement. And his cheerleaders over at Fox News. If the perp was Muslim we would already have new laws on the books and not this laughable exercise in denial.
 
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Mr. Thick is really workingnto spin this nonsense...

If you're in the conservative camp it's all non-sense from tax cuts to preemptive war to video games and drag queen advocates cause violence to climate change is a Chinese hoax. The list is endless and grows with each day. Hey once you find out crazy non-sense sells you just keep churning it out. It's all upside no downside at all.
 

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Mr. Thick is really workingnto spin this nonsense... gonna need to be more creative. Maybe Julie can come round and help his argument with some lololos

Hey! Be careful invoking her name - she's got powers that come with those lolol's.
 
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So we aren’t going to believe his own writings? Why not? Youth? Then 18 year olds shouldn’t be trusted to vote?

Why not take his writings as proof of his thoughts and beliefs? This is really important stuff actually. Report on what he actually said rather than what you think he was saying thru the prism of your particular bias.

:rolleyes:

Go read it, in full.
 
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The manifesto promotes the white nationalist and far-right conspiracy theory of The Great Replacement.[37] The New York Times characterized the manifesto as racially extremist, noting the passage: "Hispanics will take control of the local and state government of my beloved Texas, changing policy to better suit their needs." It states that Hispanics and their intermarriage with whites would cause the loss of purity of race. It criticizes strict gun control laws in Europe, arguing these would make them unable to "repel" immigrants.[11] It criticizes both the Democratic Party and Republican Party, saying that their politicians are either complacent or involved in the "takeover of the United States government by unchecked corporations."[32] However, the manifesto states that "at least with Republicans, the process of mass immigration and citizenship can be greatly reduced."[38] It warns that "heavy Hispanic population in Texas will make us a Democrat stronghold".[22] It also states that the Democratic Party's appeal to an increasing number of Hispanics in the country would ultimately ensure Democratic Party dominance in the United States, a theory that has been promoted on right-wing radio shows.[37] According to the document, the attack was meant to provide an "incentive" for Hispanics to "return to their home countries", thus dissolving "the Hispanic voting bloc" in the United States.[38]
2019 El Paso shooting - Wikipedia

Unchecked power of corporations? That sounds straight out of Elizabeth Warren’ platform.
 

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The manifesto promotes the white nationalist and far-right conspiracy theory of The Great Replacement.[37] The New York Times characterized the manifesto as racially extremist, noting the passage: "Hispanics will take control of the local and state government of my beloved Texas, changing policy to better suit their needs." It states that Hispanics and their intermarriage with whites would cause the loss of purity of race. It criticizes strict gun control laws in Europe, arguing these would make them unable to "repel" immigrants.[11] It criticizes both the Democratic Party and Republican Party, saying that their politicians are either complacent or involved in the "takeover of the United States government by unchecked corporations."[32] However, the manifesto states that "at least with Republicans, the process of mass immigration and citizenship can be greatly reduced."[38] It warns that "heavy Hispanic population in Texas will make us a Democrat stronghold".[22] It also states that the Democratic Party's appeal to an increasing number of Hispanics in the country would ultimately ensure Democratic Party dominance in the United States, a theory that has been promoted on right-wing radio shows.[37] According to the document, the attack was meant to provide an "incentive" for Hispanics to "return to their home countries", thus dissolving "the Hispanic voting bloc" in the United States.[38]
2019 El Paso shooting - Wikipedia

Dust, back to scouring the web to your advantage? Where are your recipes for baked fish?
 

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And we are going to ignore the Dayton shooters politics? Why?

Not ignoring them, just not relevant. The Dayton shooter was a fan of Antifa. That wasn't determined to be a motivation for the shooting. If he went and shot up a young Republicans club or something then it would have bearing. Not everything everyone does is related to their politics.
 

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Not ignoring them, just not relevant. The Dayton shooter was a fan of Antifa. That wasn't determined to be a motivation for the shooting. If he went and shot up a young Republicans club or something then it would have bearing. Not everything everyone does is related to their politics.

Unless somehow even peripherally it can be tied to Trump and/or the Republicans, then its fair game.


Got it.
 

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Unless somehow even peripherally it can be tied to Trump and/or the Republicans, then its fair game.


Got it.

You don't think the El Paso shooter was out to shoot Mexicans for the reasons specified in his Manifesto (great replacement etc)?
 

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Unless somehow even peripherally it can be tied to Trump and/or the Republicans, then its fair game.
You don't think the El Paso shooter was out to shoot Mexicans for the reasons specified in his Manifesto (great replacement etc)?

I wish you two wouldn't argue. There are good people on both sides.
 

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Feds are searching for a Texas man with a history of guns, bombs and 'extreme anti-government' views

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"U.S. Marshals are looking for Kevin “KC” Lyndel Massey, a Texas militia man who self-appointed himself as border patrol in 2014. Massey refused to appear for a meeting with his probation officer.

Massey, dressed in military fatigues, conducted armed patrols with others on the South Texas border in 2014 to search for immigrants attempting to cross into the U.S. In Facebook posts, Massey described detaining immigrants at gunpoint and binding their wrists with zip ties.

He built up a social media following around this time and there is a Facebook page where supporters are seeking a pardon from none other than Donald Trump.

When ATF agents raided his Brownsville hotel room in 2014 and searched his truck, they found a cache of weapons and ammonium nitrate, an explosive chemical used in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, court records show.

South Texas prosecutors say Massey has expressed support for Timothy McVeigh, whose deadly attack on that city's federal building killed more than 160 people and injured over 680 others."

. . .


White supremacist arrested for plotting to attack synagogue or LGBTQ bar

"A Las Vegas man who once claimed he was protecting his neighborhood while patrolling on foot with an assault rifle has been arrested and charged with plotting to carry out an attack on a synagogue or LGBTQ bar in the city.


Conor Climo, 23, allegedly sent encrypted messages to white supremacists this year discussing a possible attack using Molotov cocktails and other improvised explosives, federal officials said Friday.

Climo told the FBI he had also been looking at creating an eight-man "sniper platoon" to conduct a shooting attack against Jews, court documents said, a plan he said he had been considering for two years."

. . .


MEANWHILE:

Barr, Trump DoJ hid 2018 report on white supremacy and domestic terrorism
 

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‘Her Father Committed a Crime’: CBP Chief Responds to Video of Crying 11-Year-Old Girl After Mississippi Raids

“I understand that the girl is upset and I get that. But her father committed a crime,”

Oh, except...

Family can't find father detained during Miss. ICE raids

ICE spokesman Bryan Cox told CNN Monday that Gomez-Jorge does not have any prior criminal convictions. The father of four was arrested while "working without legal authorization," Cox said.

Cox said that although Gomez-Jorge has not been convicted of a crime, the US Attorney Southern District of Mississippi will decide whether he or any of the people detained last week will be deported.

The only thing he was doing was working to support his family. God forbid we have more people working in this country.
 

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‘Her Father Committed a Crime’: CBP Chief Responds to Video of Crying 11-Year-Old Girl After Mississippi Raids

“I understand that the girl is upset and I get that. But her father committed a crime,”

Oh, except...

Family can't find father detained during Miss. ICE raids

ICE spokesman Bryan Cox told CNN Monday that Gomez-Jorge does not have any prior criminal convictions. The father of four was arrested while "working without legal authorization," Cox said.

Cox said that although Gomez-Jorge has not been convicted of a crime, the US Attorney Southern District of Mississippi will decide whether he or any of the people detained last week will be deported.

The only thing he was doing was working to support his family. God forbid we have more people working in this country.
Arrest the hard working individuals but ignore the employers who also broke the law. Why complain about the 'illegals' taking the jobs while they ignore the ones hiring them to do those jobs?
 

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‘Her Father Committed a Crime’: CBP Chief Responds to Video of Crying 11-Year-Old Girl After Mississippi Raids

“I understand that the girl is upset and I get that. But her father committed a crime,”

Oh, except...

Family can't find father detained during Miss. ICE raids

ICE spokesman Bryan Cox told CNN Monday that Gomez-Jorge does not have any prior criminal convictions. The father of four was arrested while "working without legal authorization," Cox said.

Cox said that although Gomez-Jorge has not been convicted of a crime, the US Attorney Southern District of Mississippi will decide whether he or any of the people detained last week will be deported.

The only thing he was doing was working to support his family. God forbid we have more people working in this country.


And then there's that other f----------- who'd have the words on the Statue of Liberty read something like give me your tired and poor but not too tired or poor to "stand on their own two feet."


Ken Cuccinelli: Statue Of Liberty Poem About ‘People Coming From Europe’ | HuffPost

Eurocentric privilege on display as Cuccinelli thinks Statue of Liberty means "Whites Only"
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...li-thinks-Statue-of-Liberty-means-Whites-Only

MEANWHILE:

Muskegon cop's KKK ties a reminder how close white supremacists and police have grown

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...lose-white-supremacists-and-police-have-grown
Have GROWN??

Border agent who complained about 'murdering savages' pleads guilty to hitting migrant with truck
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...s-pleads-guilty-to-hitting-migrant-with-truck
After online threats, FBI agents arrest Ohio teen in home with dozens of guns, 10,000 rounds of ammo

 
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'No Blame'? ABC News finds 36 cases invoking 'Trump' in connection with violence, threats, alleged assaults.

........In nine cases, perpetrators hailed Trump in the midst or immediate aftermath of physically attacking innocent victims. In another 10 cases, perpetrators cheered or defended Trump while taunting or threatening others. And in another 10 cases, Trump and his rhetoric were cited in court to explain a defendant's violent or threatening behavior.
Seven cases involved violent or threatening acts perpetrated in defiance of Trump, with many of them targeting Trump's allies in Congress. But the vast majority of the cases -- 29 of the 36 -- reflect someone echoing presidential rhetoric, not protesting it.

ABC News could not find a single criminal case filed in federal or state court where an act of violence or threat was made in the name of President Barack Obama or President George W. Bush.
The 36 cases identified by ABC News are remarkable in that a link to the president is captured in court documents and police statements, under the penalty of perjury or contempt...........
36 cases invoking 'Trump' in connection with violence, threats, alleged assaults