Trump recinds transgender student protection

[ActionBuddy]

^ - I think BigBull29 was also being obviously sarcastic... Duh! @Jjz1109

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[TexanStar]

Dude, where are you coming u coming up with this? Interracial marriage? Black / natives not on a par with white Europeans? What bible do you read? What church do you go to?

As an American, you really have little excuse for not grasping the extent to which religion was used to support racist views, particularly in the confederate aligned states, carrying forward all the way into the civil rights era.

There were people using religion to oppose those practices as well, but to suggest that it never happened is to scream ignorance.

 

[TexanStar]

That's not a strawman. It's a simple question. How is a transwoman differentiated from a man?

It's a process of coming out to friends and family, generally working with a therapist and/or physician, there's usually a medical diagnosis of gender dysphoria involved, etc.

Some guy can walk around and say he's transgender for the sole purpose of trying to peep on women, and the police on the basis of questioning him can say that he's a lying sack of shit and throw his perv ass in jail.

 

[Industrialsize]

It's a process of coming out to friends and family, generally working with a therapist and/or physician, there's usually a medical diagnosis of gender dysphoria involved, etc.

Some guy can walk around and say he's transgender for the sole purpose of trying to peep on women, and the police on the basis of questioning him can say that he's a lying sack of shit and throw his perv ass in jail.

No there is not usually a diagnosis of gender dysphoria. People who are happy and comfortable with being transgender do not suffer from Gender Dysphoria. Being transgender is not a mental illness.

 

[deleted15807]

As an American, you really have little excuse for not grasping the extent to which religion was used to support racist views, particularly in the confederate aligned states, carrying forward all the way into the civil rights era.

There were people using religion to oppose those practices as well, but to suggest that it never happened is to scream ignorance.

Religion has been used to kill for ions.

 

[nickinoo]

It would be sad if you had to be diagnosed with gender dysphoria in order to be classified as transgender. That would be like going to the doctor for your Gay Card.

 

[TexanStar]

No there is not usually a diagnosis of gender dysphoria. People who are happy and comfortable with being transgender do not suffer from Gender Dysphoria. Being transgender is not a mental illness.

Gender Dysphoria isn't considered a mental illness either. It's a condition, and generally used to cover the set of persistent feelings that one's gender identity does not match their biological sex. Like transgender individuals before they begin to actually transition.

Transgender individuals often have some conversations with their doctor and/or therapists before they start transitioning. They don't just go to 7-11 and pick up a transition kit in the first aid aisle.

The point was that there's effort undertaken. It's not something where police can't tell who's legitimately transitioning and who's a creeper just saying they're a woman.

 

[Industrialsize]

Gender Dysphoria isn't considered a mental illness either. It's a condition, and generally used to cover the set of persistent feelings that one's gender identity does not match their biological sex. Like transgender individuals before they begin to actually transition.

Transgender individuals often have some conversations with their doctor and/or therapists before they start transitioning. They don't just go to 7-11 and pick up a transition kit in the first aid aisle.

The point was that there's effort undertaken. It's not something where police can't tell who's legitimately transitioning and who's a creeper just saying they're a woman.

Gender dysphoria is considered a mental disorder and has an ICD-10 diagnosis code: f64. It's being "conflicted" about being transgender that is the disorder, not being transgender.

 

[TexanStar]

Gender dysphoria is considered a mental disorder and has an ICD-10 diagnosis code: f64. It's being "conflicted" about being transgender that is the disorder, not being transgender.

Ah, I misunderstood the diagnosis. I thought it referred to the case of not feeling that one's biological sex matched their gender identity, but it's referring to the case where that is causing significant mental distress.

 

[marinera]

The real issue is having lesbians using women toilets. A federal heterosexual certiifcate should be required to be allowed to piss in public toilets.

 

[nickinoo]

The real issue is having lesbos using women toilets. A federal heterosexual certiifcate should be required to be allowed to piss in public toilets.

Obvious question but how does it even affect you, as a male?

 

[marinera]

Obvious question but how does it even affect you, as a male?

Well, less lesbians more chances.

 

[TexanStar]

Obvious question but how does it even affect you, as a male?

Sarcasm...

 

[nickinoo]

Sarcasm...

Oh I see lol. My apologies Marinera.

 

[marinera]

No problem at all
nickinoo. It wasn't a good joke I suppose.

 

[twoton]

Some guy can walk around and say he's transgender for the sole purpose of trying to peep on women, and the police on the basis of questioning him can say that he's a lying sack of shit and throw his perv ass in jail.

How so? What right do the police have to make the determination that he's lying? If we accept, (and support, and celebrate) young people who, literally, wake up in the morning and decide to be female or male on a given day, how could we expect the police to contradict that person's decisions?

I know a couple transgender women (i.e., people with XY chromosomes who underwent procedures to live as women). One of them is very highly regarded in her field, a public figure, and no one pays any attention to her gender identity. Regardless of laws, you'd probably not blink an eye if you saw either of them walk into a women-only area. No one would. They dress and look like women. Why do they need a law that protects them?

They don't. They are women. So why force a social agenda? What's the point, other than to use it as a cause to attack social conservatives?

And....if we don't have to be concerned about sexual assaults, etc. perpetrated by pervy men gaining entry to women's rooms because, as the reasoning goes, those things are already and have always been illegal and criminal....can't we use the same justification if people are concerned about restroom violence against trans people? Beating someone up or murdering someone is already illegal and criminal. Why do we have to create a law to protect against what is already prohibited in the laws?

Basically, it's less about human rights and more about the cynical opportunity to attack social conservatives.

 

[marinera]

'Why do they need a law that protects them?

They don't. They are women.'
Ask them if they felt women before the surgical procedure, too. Not everyone can undergo all the therapeutic path.

 

[stustu]

I think that all these social issues are just a big smoke screen to
keep us busy while Trump/Bannon/Putin/etc fuck us over real good.

 

[TexanStar]

Regardless of laws, you'd probably not blink an eye if you saw either of them walk into a women-only area. No one would. They dress and look like women. Why do they need a law that protects them?

They don't. They are women.

If that's the case, why is there a case in front of the Supreme court?

 

[nickinoo]

I think the unisex idea would work well for adults. It already does in some places. For schools it is a cloudier subject, and if the laws include changing rooms then that's an even more complicated issue. If this really was a smoke screen to distract the world from Trump's other fuck ups, it's not working.