Trump voters: do you regret your vote?

Trump voters: do you regret your vote?

  • Yes

    Votes: 9 4.3%
  • No

    Votes: 89 42.8%
  • I didn't voted for Trump

    Votes: 110 52.9%

  • Total voters
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Oh that pre-dates Trumpy by decades!
Trump has brought national pride down to a new level never seen before.
So many true Americans are totally disgusted by the way he behaves, if this is presidential god help us all - but the truth is he want to be The Great Dictator.
Obama was respected, everyone realise how he was controlled by Capital Hill.
As for the Bush's, well one made mistakes in the gulf war and the second was a pillock, a figure of fun, but he didn't put his country or the rest of the world on a war footing as Trump has done.
 

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^ True Americans??

Americans understand we are not defined, nor represented, solely by our political system. We live in a democracy and elect a new leader every four years. Dislike of the current administration is always going to exist depending on one’s political views. Some segment of the population has been, and will always be, disgusted by politics. It is unfortunate for those who feel that means they cannot be proud to be American. The significance of being an American goes far beyond these temporary stages.
 
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^ True Americans??

Americans understand we are not defined, nor represented, solely by our political system. We live in a democracy and elect a new leader every four years. Dislike of the current administration is always going to exist depending on one’s political views. Some segment of the population has been, and will always be, disgusted by politics. It is unfortunate for those who feel that means they cannot be proud to be American. The significance of being an American goes far beyond these temporary stages.
Trump: Democrats 'Un-American,' 'Treasonous' During State Of The Union

February 5, 20184:03 PM ET
https://www.npr.org/2018/02/05/5834...american-treasonous-during-state-of-the-union
 
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^ True Americans??

Americans understand we are not defined, nor represented, solely by our political system. We live in a democracy and elect a new leader every four years. Dislike of the current administration is always going to exist depending on one’s political views. Some segment of the population has been, and will always be, disgusted by politics. It is unfortunate for those who feel that means they cannot be proud to be American. The significance of being an American goes far beyond these temporary stages.
The president, like him or not is the representative of the people and the government.
When the president is allowed to behave like a spoilt brat that rubs off on the country.
There are those out there who applaud his bigotry, his racism and his total ignorance because for them he is saying it as it is - but without any background knowledge or understanding. Mostly he says what he says because of his hatred of democracy.
And those Americans who apologise know the rest of the world is watching a would be dictator..
 

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Trump has brought national pride down to a new level never seen before.
So many true Americans are totally disgusted by the way he behaves, if this is presidential god help us all - but the truth is he want to be The Great Dictator.
Obama was respected, everyone realise how he was controlled by Capital Hill.
As for the Bush's, well one made mistakes in the gulf war and the second was a pillock, a figure of fun, but he didn't put his country or the rest of the world on a war footing as Trump has done.

Both Bushes put not just you, but everyone on a wart footing. What The Orange One has done militarily wouldn't even be a mornings work for ole Daddy Bush, let alone junior.

They both picked fights in very tempestuous zones of the world that could have gone horribly wrong for no logical reason. How the hell is that any better?

This astonishes me as I remember the vitriol spewed at Bush II on this forum back in the day and now many of those people are almost getting teary for those good old days.
 
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The president, like him or not is the representative of the people and the government.
When the president is allowed to behave like a spoilt brat that rubs off on the country.
There are those out there who applaud his bigotry, his racism and his total ignorance because for them he is saying it as it is - but without any background knowledge or understanding. Mostly he says what he says because of his hatred of democracy.
And those Americans who apologise know the rest of the world is watching a would be dictator..
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You have missed the point completely. Pride goes far beyond who is currently in office. As I said, you know nothing about Americans.
 

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You have missed the point completely. Pride goes far beyond who is currently in office. As I said, you know nothing about Americans.
born and live in Boston so what's not American? Just because I have (working) home in the UK doesn't mean I don't know what goes on as my very frequent flights would show.
Pride in being American comes from being proud of all that happens in America.
Pride in being American comes when hugs I got the light of the Las Vegas massacre
Pride doesn't come when there is a president who is on the world stage looking like a stooge, a president who continually pokes his nose where its note appreciated, a president who goes out of his way to give support to those responsible for marital abuse, child molestation and white supremacy, a president who has his own agenda regardless of the world - of which America is a part - and that's not always good for the country but it is good for his buddies.
One day with luck he'll shut his face, speak when spoken to and listen to advise - but then pigs will fly.
Do you know how many accusations there were against Trump, do you know how many have been silenced - apart for the porn star - and do you think Trump's family is entirely innocent.
Did you know that his son in law doesn't have full security clearance to work in the White house and yet is privy to details about USA security - a guy who does trade with China, a guy who is in hock to Russian investment.
When the worlds sees such behaviour backed up by the antics of Ryan and McConnell it really does wonder what happened to the once great America that Trump is fast pulling down to the level of a third world country.
So please don't lecture me on what I know, please don't accuse me of being what I'm not.
You can quite happily go back to backing a man who has the morals of a gutter snipe, who speaks one thing but does another, I have no problem with that, you believe what you want, its a free country - but be prepared to pay the cost because at the end of the day Trump will take the USA back into being more in debt than at any other time in its history.
 
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Both Bushes put not just you, but everyone on a wart footing. What The Orange One has done militarily wouldn't even be a mornings work for ole Daddy Bush, let alone junior.

They both picked fights in very tempestuous zones of the world that could have gone horribly wrong for no logical reason. How the hell is that any better?

This astonishes me as I remember the vitriol spewed at Bush II on this forum back in the day and now many of those people are almost getting teary for those good old days.
I have no problem in agreeing that Bush did take the world into war illegally by manipulating the truth, not only that he got other peo0ple to lie as well.
If only his father had had the balls to finish the job first time round I wonder if the Middle East would have been in as much turmoil as now?
Trump though picks fights with those capable of "the bomb" - claims to be enlarging his arsenal to be, as he puts it," bigger than any one else".
So that's North Korea having capabilities looking down the barrel of a Trump gun. He doesn't want Iran to have them either and pulls out of a deal that could help prevent that - for some reason he thinks its a bad deal for the USA! Anything that prevents an escalation must be good not only for the USA but the world as a whole.
And then Jerusalem, anything to get Jewish votes and Jewish money but he has no idea of the history of the area and the ramifications of troubles in that area. Already Israel is expanding into Palestinian lands and the UN does nothing and Trump sits back and smiles and reiterates his pledge to move the US embassy to Jerusalem and think of Jerusalem as the capital city of Israel. War in that part of the wold would be catastrophic and there's always the danger that Israel , already picking fights with neighbours - could press the button which would sent one of their atomic bombs into a war zone, just why is that little bit of the jig saw always missed out, they have the capabilities.
In one year Trump has placed the world and the USA more in danger than all the Bush and Obama years combined.
Does that count as a Trump boast about doing more than his predecessors?
 

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born and live in Boston so what's not American? Just because I have (working) home in the UK doesn't mean I don't know what goes on as my very frequent flights would show.
Pride in being American comes from being proud of all that happens in America.
Pride in being American comes when hugs I got the light of the Las Vegas massacre
Pride doesn't come when there is a president who is on the world stage looking like a stooge, a president who continually pokes his nose where its note appreciated, a president who goes out of his way to give support to those responsible for marital abuse, child molestation and white supremacy, a president who has his own agenda regardless of the world - of which America is a part - and that's not always good for the country but it is good for his buddies.
One day with luck he'll shut his face, speak when spoken to and listen to advise - but then pigs will fly.
Do you know how many accusations there were against Trump, do you know how many have been silenced - apart for the porn star - and do you think Trump's family is entirely innocent.
Did you know that his son in law doesn't have full security clearance to work in the White house and yet is privy to details about USA security - a guy who does trade with China, a guy who is in hock to Russian investment.
When the worlds sees such behaviour backed up by the antics of Ryan and McConnell it really does wonder what happened to the once great America that Trump is fast pulling down to the level of a third world country.
So please don't lecture me on what I know, please don't accuse me of being what I'm not.
You can quite happily go back to backing a man who has the morals of a gutter snipe, who speaks one thing but does another, I have no problem with that, you believe what you want, its a free country - but be prepared to pay the cost because at the end of the day Trump will take the USA back into being more in debt than at any other time in its history.
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You continue to miss the point. No where did I mention supporting trump. My posts were in response to a comment you made about pride, and you went off on an apoplectic tirade. Don’t YOU lecture anyone about why Americans are not proud. Your pride in self should be based on a whole lot more than who is sitting in the Oval Office.
 
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You continue to miss the point. No where did I mention supporting trump. My posts were in response to a comment you made about pride, and you went off on an apoplectic tirade. Don’t YOU lecture anyone about why Americans are not proud. Your pride in self should be based on a whole lot more than who is sitting in the Oval Office.
to the outside world the man is not fit for office - what he does is not fit and the way he caries on business isn't suited to being ambassadorial to the USA.
Listening to comments made about Trump - who does like it not represent American, to hear him mocked world wide doesn't actually give anyone any pride.
One of the biggest problems in America is the people are so parochial and untraveled, they read little and view selectively and worse than that, they are inward looking. So faced with the dilemma of views from outside their own box they become confused and like babies go for the nearest instant succour - the rants of Trump.
 

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Let me sum up
Trump, the President, Commander in Chief has so far refused to condemn Domestic Violence.
is happy to wish those accused of said crimes well for the future - does he do the same for Harvey Weinstein or is he using double standards?
is he happy to go along with his own beliefs that the Russian did not influence the 2016 elections and will not influence the 201`18 mid terms or even the 2020 presidential elections - regardless of his own Chiefs of Staff telling him the evidence and the threats are there.
his preferential treatment of hurricane victims in Texas as against those in Puerto Rico (still without all the utilities, food and shelter - but then its an island, surrounded by sea as Trump so eloquently put it)..
the refusal to condemn white supremacy in Charlottesville
and the list goes on .
Problem is as the Twitter in Chief he is all so over the media, everything he does is news, everything he utters is taken on face value which is why the world looks on aghast, why Americans overseas find it difficult to defend his statements because he is so often bigoted and racist and extremist.
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Today is a sad day for Florida
Today is a back day for the USA.
Once gain, without proof the president has come out to claim that the Florida gunman was mentally unstable, has said its very sad.
But that's all.
Nothing about this being something that almost only happens in America!
and why.
When Trump was campaigning he was endorsed by the gun lobby - the RNA
Therefore Trump "owes"
Trump owes big time.

So will this be the last shooting of innocent children
Will this be the last time families are grief stricken not being able to comprehend how the Second Amendment can be so blatantly modified to give vast profits to the gun industry and no protection for the innocent.
Once again the lack of action by past presidents, not just Trump, have lead down this dreadful path.
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try explaining why you're proud to be American after that!
 

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That is another reason how Trump got elected: Evangelicals knew that Mike Pence would be vice-president.

That wholesome Iowa farm boy is a real danger to American democracy.

Separation of church and state is vital for democracy. We must invoke it at every turn.

Agree on everything you say, except Pence is from Indiana! We don't need another ass in Iowa!