Elmer Gantry
LPSG Legend
To meet people overseas who try to disguise they are American, to hide the shame.
Oh that pre-dates Trumpy by decades!
To meet people overseas who try to disguise they are American, to hide the shame.
So True at least since the 2nd Iraq war probably long before that.Oh that pre-dates Trumpy by decades!
Trump has brought national pride down to a new level never seen before.Oh that pre-dates Trumpy by decades!
Trump: Democrats 'Un-American,' 'Treasonous' During State Of The Union^ True Americans??
Americans understand we are not defined, nor represented, solely by our political system. We live in a democracy and elect a new leader every four years. Dislike of the current administration is always going to exist depending on one’s political views. Some segment of the population has been, and will always be, disgusted by politics. It is unfortunate for those who feel that means they cannot be proud to be American. The significance of being an American goes far beyond these temporary stages.
The president, like him or not is the representative of the people and the government.^ True Americans??
Americans understand we are not defined, nor represented, solely by our political system. We live in a democracy and elect a new leader every four years. Dislike of the current administration is always going to exist depending on one’s political views. Some segment of the population has been, and will always be, disgusted by politics. It is unfortunate for those who feel that means they cannot be proud to be American. The significance of being an American goes far beyond these temporary stages.
Trump has brought national pride down to a new level never seen before.
So many true Americans are totally disgusted by the way he behaves, if this is presidential god help us all - but the truth is he want to be The Great Dictator.
Obama was respected, everyone realise how he was controlled by Capital Hill.
As for the Bush's, well one made mistakes in the gulf war and the second was a pillock, a figure of fun, but he didn't put his country or the rest of the world on a war footing as Trump has done.
.The president, like him or not is the representative of the people and the government.
When the president is allowed to behave like a spoilt brat that rubs off on the country.
There are those out there who applaud his bigotry, his racism and his total ignorance because for them he is saying it as it is - but without any background knowledge or understanding. Mostly he says what he says because of his hatred of democracy.
And those Americans who apologise know the rest of the world is watching a would be dictator..
born and live in Boston so what's not American? Just because I have (working) home in the UK doesn't mean I don't know what goes on as my very frequent flights would show..
You have missed the point completely. Pride goes far beyond who is currently in office. As I said, you know nothing about Americans.
I have no problem in agreeing that Bush did take the world into war illegally by manipulating the truth, not only that he got other peo0ple to lie as well.Both Bushes put not just you, but everyone on a wart footing. What The Orange One has done militarily wouldn't even be a mornings work for ole Daddy Bush, let alone junior.
They both picked fights in very tempestuous zones of the world that could have gone horribly wrong for no logical reason. How the hell is that any better?
This astonishes me as I remember the vitriol spewed at Bush II on this forum back in the day and now many of those people are almost getting teary for those good old days.
.born and live in Boston so what's not American? Just because I have (working) home in the UK doesn't mean I don't know what goes on as my very frequent flights would show.
Pride in being American comes from being proud of all that happens in America.
Pride in being American comes when hugs I got the light of the Las Vegas massacre
Pride doesn't come when there is a president who is on the world stage looking like a stooge, a president who continually pokes his nose where its note appreciated, a president who goes out of his way to give support to those responsible for marital abuse, child molestation and white supremacy, a president who has his own agenda regardless of the world - of which America is a part - and that's not always good for the country but it is good for his buddies.
One day with luck he'll shut his face, speak when spoken to and listen to advise - but then pigs will fly.
Do you know how many accusations there were against Trump, do you know how many have been silenced - apart for the porn star - and do you think Trump's family is entirely innocent.
Did you know that his son in law doesn't have full security clearance to work in the White house and yet is privy to details about USA security - a guy who does trade with China, a guy who is in hock to Russian investment.
When the worlds sees such behaviour backed up by the antics of Ryan and McConnell it really does wonder what happened to the once great America that Trump is fast pulling down to the level of a third world country.
So please don't lecture me on what I know, please don't accuse me of being what I'm not.
You can quite happily go back to backing a man who has the morals of a gutter snipe, who speaks one thing but does another, I have no problem with that, you believe what you want, its a free country - but be prepared to pay the cost because at the end of the day Trump will take the USA back into being more in debt than at any other time in its history.
to the outside world the man is not fit for office - what he does is not fit and the way he caries on business isn't suited to being ambassadorial to the USA..
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You continue to miss the point. No where did I mention supporting trump. My posts were in response to a comment you made about pride, and you went off on an apoplectic tirade. Don’t YOU lecture anyone about why Americans are not proud. Your pride in self should be based on a whole lot more than who is sitting in the Oval Office.
That is another reason how Trump got elected: Evangelicals knew that Mike Pence would be vice-president.
That wholesome Iowa farm boy is a real danger to American democracy.
Separation of church and state is vital for democracy. We must invoke it at every turn.