Trump's War With Iran

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Months ago, right after Trump dropped the Iranian nuclear deal, I wrote of my belief that Trump was trying to start up a conflict with Iran. And now, in yesterday and today's news, conflicting reports on the "oil tanker attacks" that Trump says Iran was behind...

(because yeah, that'd make a whole LOT of sense, that Iran, who still had the support and backing of U.S. Nato allies re. the nuclear deal that Trump decided to toss OUT, would destroy that support by attacking oil tankers)

... and a whole lot of finger-pointing, resulting in escalating tensions:

Trump blames oil tanker attacks on Iran, citing video evidence

Iran or its proxies likely behind "sabotage" of tankers at Fujairah US says as Donald Trump warns Iran - Live updates 2019-05-14 - CBS News


Oil Tanker Owner Contradicts White House On Explosive In Mideast Ship Attack | HuffPost

MEANWHILE, what of Trump's good buddy Putin, in the midst of all this? WELL:


Russian leader meets Erdogan and Xi to cultivate closer ties | Daily Mail Online
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...tml?ns_mchannel=rss&ito=1490&ns_campaign=1490
Russia Warns Against Using Tanker Attacks to Pressure Iran - The Moscow Times

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/oil-...ump-administration_n_5d0415c3e4b0dc17ef09f629
 

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I don't know. But what I find ironic is how before the November 2016 elections, there were those running around crying how Hillary would "start WWIII." Also ironic, seeing Putin's stance on the issue.

Gotta wonder what the so-called, "real" American "patriots" who wore Trump-Putin, and "I'd rather be Russian than Democrat" t-shirts at Trump rallies must be thinking now... that is, presuming they are CAPABLE of logical thought.

But hey, maybe all those Trump/Putin loving, NRA followers with their two AR's under the bed, can start dusting them off now to JOIN UP, in support of their beloved leader.

 

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No he doesnt.
He wants to wave a big stick and cry war but like all draft dodgers and real cowards he will send others to sort out his dirty work.
Commander in Chief, dam, not fit to be commander of the bell hops at his golf clubs!
 
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He wants to wave a big stick and cry war but like all draft dodgers and real cowards he will send others to sort out his dirty work.
Commander in Chief, dam, not fit to be commander of the bell hops at his golf clubs!
Again,no he will not.Boltons a different story ,but Trump will never sign off on a ground war.
 

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And we have yet to see how that will actually turn out

Still has nukes

Nukes that work so no further testing is required

Still has the ability to make more

Still has long range missiles

Missiles that have been tested enough so no further testing is required

Still has the ability to make more

So what has actually changed ??
 
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And we have yet to see how that will actually turn out

Still has nukes

Nukes that work so no further testing is required

Still has the ability to make more

Still has long range missiles

Missiles that have been tested enough so no further testing is required

Still has the ability to make more

So what has actually changed ??
Nothing but at least hes trying to talk ,ask any Korean american what they think of it.
 
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Don the con will NEVER understand that not EVERYTHING is fucking NYC real estate deal

Or a "deal" in general
Dude im dipping out ,this isnt debating its r/politics for big cock lovers.
 

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Trumps talk means nothing,remember his rocketman tweets.
The difference is the area.

North Korea is surrounded by nations who have no interest in a war with N.K. China and Russia are allies, South Korea and Japan would have more to lose as to gain, if they start a war.

Everyone tried to calm down the situation.

The middle east is something totally different.

Israel believes they could solve a possible threat by a first strike.
Saudi Arabia would love to see Iran wiped out...

A mother difference is Britain. While staying calm as Trump threatened Korea, they mutate to a war monger in case of Iran.
 

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I don't know. But what I find ironic is how before the November 2016 elections, there were those running around crying how Hillary would "start WWIII." Also ironic, seeing Putin's stance on the issue.

Well... the line of thinking that would lead someone to think that Hillary would start WWIII was the close ties she had with the Neo-Conservatives who destroyed the Middle East, who toppled Ukraine and desperately tried to overthrow Syria.

The Obama administration was also closely involved with the Neo-Cons.

During Trump's campaign, Trump painted himself as an isolationist who wanted to get out of disastrous wars. At this point, Hillary looked like the Hawk and Trump looked like the dove.

Trump's original cabinet was indeed an isolationist group of individuals who weren't ideologically insane like the Neo-Conservatives. There are TWO cabinet positions that are the pivot pint for war (or wars of regime change via proxy mercenaries)... the National Security Director and the Secretary of State.

When Trump was elected, Tillerson and Flynn were in these positions... Flynn was a decorated right wing military man but he was NOT aligned with a Neo-Conservative foreign policy... neither was Tillerson.

BUT... Tillerson and Flynn were replaced with two UBER Neo-Conservatives - Mike Pompeo and John Bolton.

The "dove"was never a dove, it was an impression that he gave on the campaign trail... and his cabinet has been hijacked JUST AS OBAMA'S WAS HIJACKED.

Obama's cabinet and administration was stacked to the gills with global corporatists and Neo-Conservatives. Was this his intention? I don't think so... I feel like he had no choice and this was against his decision. this is the POWER of the Deep State.

The sort of power to convince Obama that putting Mike Pompeo as head of the CIA was an, "Offer he couldn't refuse".

Obama's foreign policy with a Neo-Conservative as head of the CIA would soon turn into fire and blood. The Middle East was soon a succession of disastrous coups, regime changes and or civil wars (Egypt's government would undergo TWO fucking military coups in this period).

Part of the "beauty" of the Mueller Investigation featured a sting to remove Michael Flynn... and install Neo-Con head vampire John Bolton instead.

AND THIS IS WHAT WE GET AS A RESULT OF THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION... AN IMPENDING WAR WITH IRAN.

At the same time that the anti-War position was abdicated by the Democratic Party... VERY convenient timing.

Gotta wonder what the so-called, "real" American "patriots" who wore Trump-Putin, and "I'd rather be Russian than Democrat" t-shirts at Trump rallies must be thinking now... that is, presuming they are CAPABLE of logical thought.

Those TWO men can probably be reached via email or facebook... why don't you ask them?

But hey, maybe all those Trump/Putin loving, NRA followers with their two AR's under the bed, can start dusting them off now to JOIN UP, in support of their beloved leader.

You mean fat men over the age of 35? The military won't take them.

ALL OF THAT SAID, I fucking 100% commend your incredulity as to the "tanker sabotage" and your suspicions that this is all an excuse to placate Saudi Arabia (DON'T FORGET SAUDI ARABIA's BIGGEST BUDDY ISRAEL) and to drive up the price of oil.

Despite Hillary being aligned with the Neo-Conservatives,she would have NEVER tried to start a war with Iran.

The nuclear deal with Iran was probably Barack Obama's best decision... it looks even better in hindsight.
 

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The ridiculous allegation that Putin controls Trump should now be finally put to rest.