Nope. Sorry. The security procedures are NOT the same.
Ummmmm...
yes they are. Where I live, I've gone through similar pat downs. I've had my body pat down with two hands from head to toe, and a hand gently go up and down my inseam, which is precisely the procedure described by the TSA agent in the John Tyner video. Who are you to tell me that I haven't, unless you've been the one frisking me at almost every night club I've been at over the last two years?
And thanks for strategically deleting my point about private jet passengers not being subject to the same security checks as the rest of us mere mortals. Bin Laden family after 9/11, anyone? The same goes for my comment about shipping containers. Clearly you don't actually have any real security concerns, otherwise you would have addressed these two critical points I made.
There's no strategy in deleting part of your post. I'm trying to save space in my own.
And I don't have to address every single ASCII character you type. In fact, I already know that much baggage isn't screened as heavily as some people would like. Then again, they go through machines with much stronger x-rays so that could be part of the reasoning.
That's demonstrably incorrect. If you can prove otherwise, please go ahead.
It depends on what you're using as "class". You haven't declared any particular one, however going by your rants one could assume that you're talking "rich vs. poor". If that was the case, then look up the embodiment of people who compose of the "poor class". Look at them by their race and you'll see a mass amount of minorities, or the same ones who would be unfairly targeted in racial profiling. That is, unless, you want to argue against recent census and poverty statistics and I know you don't want to do that.
Once again, you completely fail to understand the distinction between the public and private sectors. The Constitution applies to the former ONLY.
Bullshit. Not every function at a night club, sporting or concert is strictly a public or private affair. In fact, in a private scenario the people running the event can administer even more stricter search guidelines. Case in point, I know a private party for gay men in New York that actually requires them to expose themselves before gaining entry. Obviously you couldn't do that on a public scale.
Actually, your statement is the one that's disingenous and, honestly, flat out ludicrous! Hmmm... should we apply community standards to searches just like we do to obscenity? :lmao: :rofl:
There's no disingenuousness in saying that I, personally, have no problems with the enhanced pat downs administered by the TSA. Just because you do is
your problem. You're the one seeing it as an invasion of YOUR rights. Don't speak for myself or anyone else on this issue.
Do you understand what "probable cause" means? Because going by everything you've written again and again to my previous comments, clearly you do not.
Well, if you want me to be blunt how about I put it to you this way.
Some people want assurance that the plane they get on is safe. Your fears and paranoia over an enhanced pat down doesn't trump another person's need for passenger security under the legal law. Flying is a privilege, not a right in this country. And contrary to your propaganda, the TSA isn't doing anything different that you can't be exposed to already on a public scale. So if you don't like it, then find another means for travel or stay home.
Okay, I'll try to make this as easy to follow as possible:
Some form of search IS a requirement for some people who are randomly chosen for screening. Probable cause is irrelevant. And THAT is a clear demonstration of a tyrannical government that is hell bent on breaking the law, rather than enforcing it. And your "go find another mode of transportaton" argument is getting a bit tired by now, don't ya think?
IMO, if you got up in front of a security guard and started "showing your ass" about full body scanners and frisk downs, I'd be a little suspicious of you myself. But that's besides the point. Does this mean we won't see you flying the friendly skies anymore? Please let the rest of us know so we can plan our trips accordingly.
