Tulsi: Yea Or Nay?

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What are your feelings on Tulsi Gabbard? Is she truly Progressive or is she the Jill Stein of 2020?

My take is that she is the next to announce a change of Party. Her vote of present is disingenuous. She didn't want to vote yes because she needs support from some Trump supporters and she knew voting no doomed her in the eyes of the few Democrats she somehow deluded. It's not a shock that after casting her vote she left through a GOP door.

I predict that she will announce a run as a third party candidate. Which side she'll hurt more is still a question.
 

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What are your feelings on Tulsi Gabbard? Is she truly Progressive or is she the Jill Stein of 2020?

My take is that she is the next to announce a change of Party. Her vote of present is disingenuous. She didn't want to vote yes because she needs support from some Trump supporters and she knew voting no doomed her in the eyes of the few Democrats she somehow deluded. It's not a shock that after casting her vote she left through a GOP door.

I predict that she will announce a run as a third party candidate. Which side she'll hurt more is still a question.

I don't think she'll run as 3rd party for 2020.

I think her political views are genuine, but don't align well with the platforms of either major party.

I would not be surprised if she gets primaried for her next house run.
 

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I don't think she'll run as 3rd party for 2020.

I think her political views are genuine, but don't align well with the platforms of either major party.

I would not be surprised if she gets primaried for her next house run.
Supposedly she has said she will not seek reelection (no surprise seeing as how some of her views run counter to those of others in her home state).
 

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Gabbard defends 'present' vote on impeachment: Voters should decide

Funny how she complained that impeachment was along partisan lines. She claims she agreed he broke the law but not once did she fault the Republicans in the House for playing partisan politics by not wanting to acknowledge the evidence.

Can you imagine the outrage from the GOP if during Bill's impeachment vote no Democrats voted with them? Does anyone think they would have dropped the whole thing (that was the GOP argument on Trump)?
 

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She has also stated she will not run for President as a third party candidate:

Why Don't You Believe Tulsi Gabbard?

Tulsi Gabbard says she'll never run third-party for president. But she can't shake skepticism of her motives.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/rosiegray/tulsi-gabbard-2020-third-party-president
I just can't believe her but anything is possible. If she doesn't run third party maybe she'll be another Joe Lieberman and we can look for her at the Republican convention?
 
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What are your feelings on Tulsi Gabbard? Is she truly Progressive or is she the Jill Stein of 2020?

My take is that she is the next to announce a change of Party. Her vote of present is disingenuous. She didn't want to vote yes because she needs support from some Trump supporters and she knew voting no doomed her in the eyes of the few Democrats she somehow deluded. It's not a shock that after casting her vote she left through a GOP door.

I predict that she will announce a run as a third party candidate. Which side she'll hurt more is still a question.
I think she is the next Jill Stein, I do believe she'll could still make a third party run. Interestingly, she is very well liked by many of my Trump voter friends, she could pull from both parties.

I'm not a fan...
 

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I..appreciate the honesty Tulsi offers on a number of issues, but I think she is deceptively disingenuous about her political alignment and final motivesfor opportunistic purposes...I dont think for one second she is not aware of the support she carries in Trump country due to a mutual dislike of Hillary Clinton, and I think she was and is not above playing to that particular crowd on an almost subliminal level as a pathway to power.

All that being said.. I think she served an effective purpose in this Democratic Primary. Though most complain about the "purity tests" common to Dems' internal debates and elections, I think those moments serve as valuable crucibles that either strengthen and clarify great candidates, or burn off unprepared ones.
Tulsi made two things very clear this primary season; Hillary is toxic and hypocrisy must be addressed and redirected...No Dem is aligning themselves with the Clintons, and Kamala Harris found out first hand you better have a damn good explanation and alternate plan of attack when a fellow candidate easily points out how your record does not match your rhetoric.
 

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I..appreciate the honesty Tulsi offers on a number of issues, but I think she is deceptively disingenuous about her political alignment and final motivesfor opportunistic purposes...I dont think for one second she is not aware of the support she carries in Trump country due to a mutual dislike of Hillary Clinton, and I think she was and is not above playing to that particular crowd on an almost subliminal level as a pathway to power.

All that being said.. I think she served an effective purpose in this Democratic Primary. Though most complain about the "purity tests" common to Dems' internal debates and elections, I think those moments serve as valuable crucibles that either strengthen and clarify great candidates, or burn off unprepared ones.
Tulsi made two things very clear this primary season; Hillary is toxic and hypocrisy must be addressed and redirected...No Dem is aligning themselves with the Clintons, and Kamala Harris found out first hand you better have a damn good explanation and alternate plan of attack when a fellow candidate easily points out how your record does not match your rhetoric.

I don't know anyone in the Democratic party who aligns with Assad in Syria - except Tulsi. He used her visit to talk to him as a propaganda video. This is a man who gassed his own people. Sorry, I align with Hillary on that point. Tulsi has a long ugly history of attacking gays for bring gay and any one who disagreed with her in her early political career were labeled 'radical homosexuals' - regardless of their orientation. She comes late to the argument that equality matters. Again, I align with Hillary.

You and others can talk about your mutual dislike of Hillary, but 3 plus million voters aligned with her over Trump. Save for 30,000 votes spread over three states she would have won the electoral college as well. That's on her for neglecting Pa. and Michigan - it is not a repudiation of her at all. You can talk until Hell freezes over about who might beat Trump - Hillary actually did.

Senator Harris did not drop in the polls because of her comments about Biden. She dropped because she could not present a vision. She did not light a fire. Biden has a checkered history. He is semi-beloved right now as "Obama-white." While people bitch about Senator Harris as a prosecutor Biden was writing the laws that she prosecuted. He also was known as the Senator from MBNA (Maryland National Bank - a Delaware Corporation) for the generous protections he gave credit card companies that fuel part of the debt crisis. Her 'attack' on him for opposing busing was spot on. Busing scared the liberal white voters in droves. Rather than lead, Biden, like Bill Clinton placated their anger and the result is crappy education for poor people of color for another generation. No, it wasn't a popular position, but leader need to take them to be called leaders.

If we're talking toxic, and hypocrisy - this week showed - we're not talking Hillary, we're talking Tulsi.
 

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O wait, because a Democrat didn't vote yes and fall in line with the rest of the party she's an outcast?

Gotcha. No one can have a mind of their own, or vote their conscience. Partisan politics, check.

The tolerant left isn't so tolerant when someone doesn't agree with their ideology and vote party lines or the way you think they should.
 

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O wait, because a Democrat didn't vote yes and fall in line with the rest of the party she's an outcast?

Gotcha. No one can have a mind of their own, or vote their conscience. Partisan politics, check.

The tolerant left isn't so tolerant when someone doesn't agree with their ideology and vote party lines or the way you think they should.
This is one reason you know they are full of shit. She has one or two views that differ and it immediately means she is a Russian plant or this or that. Or it could mean she isn't beholden to anyway in nearly the way other members of her party are.
 
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O wait, because a Democrat didn't vote yes and fall in line with the rest of the party she's an outcast?

Gotcha. No one can have a mind of their own, or vote their conscience. Partisan politics, check.

The tolerant left isn't so tolerant when someone doesn't agree with their ideology and vote party lines or the way you think they should.

She's been an outcast all along. She's homophobic, and likes Assad in Syria, the man who gassed his own people. She is redefining the term ' lunatic fringe,' and her moronic 'parent's vote has nothing to do with it.
 

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She's been an outcast all along. She's homophobic, and likes Assad in Syria, the man who gassed his own people. She is redefining the term ' lunatic fringe,' and her moronic 'parent's vote has nothing to do with it.


She apologized for homosexual extremists remarks 14 yrs ago. Has voted in favor of LGBTQ rights since her time in office. So I guess that her apology was unacceptable?
 

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O wait, because a Democrat didn't vote yes and fall in line with the rest of the party she's an outcast?

Gotcha. No one can have a mind of their own, or vote their conscience. Partisan politics, check.

The tolerant left isn't so tolerant when someone doesn't agree with their ideology and vote party lines or the way you think they should.
I think you're unnecessarily narrowing the scope of ideology in order to justify the continued presence and destruction of ideals that are inherently contrarian to liberal and progressive ideologies.
 

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