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Originally posted by madame_zora@Oct 21 2005, 01:07 AM
I wanted to let this develop for a while to see where on earth it was going before I really gave an answer. I get blamed for a lot more negativity than I actually create when you read my posts. Ukmale, please notice that I never said one cross thing to you for posting rather nastily about me. I did a search and read your posts, since there were 42 of them at the time it was no big inconvenience, and I wanted to see what I might have said to warrant such a negative view from you. Turns out we've never spoken at all!

In reality, almost every time I've had something negative to say about someone, it's in response to a personal interaction with that person I'm having. I really don't just flame total strangers on the board, despite the fact that people like to accuse me of doing so. I guess just because I don't wear a sign that says "line forms to the right" or "I'll fuck anybody that applies"that  makes me a bitch. Now for those of you who are about to call me presumptuous, I ask you, what was this thread all about? Some guy is mad at me because I've expressed a preference for bigger dicks, that's all it boils down to. Sad but true, just like Metallica.

Please, feel free to post whatever you choose, I support free speech formidably. It doesn't mean your post will go unchallenged, because my speech is as free as yours. If you resent the amount I post, tough shit.
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AMEN! Some guys are so uptight. He can't handle the TRUTH!!! , Madame Z. He is envious of you for some reason. Invisibleman :yourock:
 

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Originally posted by Hung Muscle+Oct 20 2005, 05:34 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Hung Muscle &#064; Oct 20 2005, 05:34 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Max@Oct 20 2005, 04:28 AM
In defence of ukmale and at the risk of adding flames to the fire I want to say that I share some of his views on the site.  I have been here pretty well thoughout, and I have no doubt whatsoever that it is more self-contained and less friendly to newcomers than once it was.

Of course there are aggressive people who stir up trouble, but I have witnessed a few genuine enquirers getting fairly rough treatment from regulars.
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Who&#39;s the loon?

A lot of people share ukmale&#39;s views but most live either in permanent lurkerdom and just PM, or in total silence. It&#39;s cool you spoke up, ukmale -- and it was predictable that you would be jumped on and predictable by whom. There is clearly a mentality of "go-along-get-along" here and it&#39;s annoying when you disagree with the herd, you are called a hundred nasty names. But it&#39;s up to you to continue speaking up and challenging the status quo.

Just remember, ukmale, that some of these know-it-alls are hiding their real persona behind a computer screen. Some have a number of alternate screen names (who seem to pop up periodically and conveniently to defend their alter egos). It baffles me how someone can rack up 100s of posts per week and still enjoy a productive life off-line -- but, hey, anything&#39;s possible, I guess. Some have been on here so long and so often, they seem to start believing they are actually running this board: calling people out for breaking "the rules" or ratting out others for posting what they deem to be inappropriate material. I mean, squealing? Really?

But, there are some great guys here and some really really cool people. If guys like you continue to bother to speak up the noise from the ranters will diminish.
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Hung Muscle, you&#39;ve gone to the heart of the matter, and perhaps validated UKguy&#39;s original complaint in the process.

It&#39;s best to understand that several of the regulars are merely role-playing characters, many of whom are ran by the same individual.

That&#39;s why, in my posts, I refer to &#39;the Madame Zora character&#39;, etc. If such a person actually existed, the only observation you&#39;d need is that she hasn&#39;t been the same since that house fell on her sister. It&#39;s hilarious to see how many guys kowtow to her imaginary ass. It&#39;s amazing what an avatar with cleavage will accomplish.

But of course, the guy who runs that character, and at least two others, is sadly stunted by his bitterness.
That&#39;s why he runs the characters.

He can&#39;t log on as an authentic human being lest he see himself, in print, for who he is. And he can&#39;t handle the shame if his arguments are bested by complete strangers. If a character he creates dies, it&#39;s acceptable. He can distance himself from it. He can artificially shield himself from that hit to his self-esteem.

All on a Big Cock board.

If we understand this, we can just relax and have fun. And, as you say, the experience is heartily leavened by the number of truly cool people here.
 

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Originally posted by fredlet@Oct 27 2005, 04:24 PM
Hung Muscle, you&#39;ve gone to the heart of the matter, and perhaps validated UKguy&#39;s original complaint in the process.

It&#39;s best to understand that several of the regulars are merely role-playing characters, many of whom are ran by the same individual. 

That&#39;s why, in my posts, I refer to &#39;the Madame Zora character&#39;, etc.  If such a person actually existed, the only observation you&#39;d need is that she hasn&#39;t been the same since that house fell on her sister.  It&#39;s hilarious to see how many guys kowtow to her imaginary ass.  It&#39;s amazing what an avatar with cleavage will accomplish.

But of course, the guy who runs that character, and at least two others, is sadly stunted by his bitterness.
That&#39;s why he runs the characters.

He can&#39;t log on as an authentic human being lest he see himself, in print, for who he is. And he can&#39;t handle the shame if his arguments are bested by complete strangers.  If a character he creates dies, it&#39;s acceptable.  He can distance himself from it.  He can artificially shield himself from that hit to his self-esteem.
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You really should know what you are talking about before you post, fredlet. I&#39;m guessing you are one of those hiding behind your online character. It just so happens I am exactly who and where I say I am - I have absolutely nothing to hide, nor anything to prove to you. And I have never met Zora in person, but we have spoken on the phone. I assure you she is not some troll-man with an assumed identity.

Hung_Muscle, or any other DC-area members, you can meet me any time you choose, if that would make fredlet back off with his puerile attacks. Perhaps it would be good for his mental health to learn that not everyone shares his creepy online habits.
 

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Ahhhhhh, I believe you, DC. But meeting would definitely not be out of order. I&#39;m only in DC half the week, though.

I also think Madame Zora is a real biological woman in Ohio. But that&#39;s just me and everyone&#39;s entitled to their opinions (without being called a moron, incidentally).

But I also understand how some guys can come on here and get jaded. It seems every few weeks another veteran poster gets busted with fake pics, multiple personae, or a fraudulent history.

Lying isn&#39;t cool. It&#39;s kinda sad. And people who defend the liars are just delusional.
 

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Hi,

May I ask a question? Would most of us be quite as salty if we actually had to repeat a nasty comment face to face? Probably not&#33; I know the net is an opportunity to reinvent and exercise dormant parts of our personalities, but please try to step back and think how you would respond if your comment had been said to you. ....

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I&#39;ve talked to MZ on the phone a couple times too. If that&#39;s a male troll, he sure has one sexy voice&#33;&#33; Oh, and a name that pops up on my caller ID that matches the one that she claims to have on here. But I&#39;m sure that all trolls go through such great lengths to pull off a character on some chat forum.

Of course, I suppose that you could attempt to reason that all of us that claim to talk to her are actually "all the same individual" just enjoying our own little soap opera here.
 

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Originally posted by naughty@Oct 28 2005, 12:26 AM
Would most of us be quite as salty if we actually had to repeat a nasty comment face to face? Probably not&#33;
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you&#39;re right. in real life i&#39;d probably just save my breath and smack him in the mouth :p
 

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Originally posted by Dr Rock+Oct 28 2005, 01:23 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dr Rock &#064; Oct 28 2005, 01:23 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-naughty@Oct 28 2005, 12:26 AM
Would most of us be quite as salty if we actually had to repeat a nasty comment face to face? Probably not&#33;
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you&#39;re right. in real life i&#39;d probably just save my breath and smack him in the mouth :p
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Yeah, I would too&#33; Just because I&#39;m not all "girly" and stupid doesn&#39;t make me a man. I mean, sure I smoke, cuss, scratch the balls I wish I had, argue passionately for things I believe in- is THAT what calls my gender into question? Seriously, I&#39;d like to know because this one particualr comment has been following me around my whole life. As a result of that, I&#39;ve learned a long time ago that men with frail little egos don&#39;t like their "male superiority" threatened. It&#39;s always about a shrunked ego on the part of the accuser being terrified at the prospect of a dominanat woman. Ha, no new circumstance for me, and once again, he just outed himself for the miserable sod he really is. I&#39;d like to have him say that to my face and not expect me to be angry- hope you morons can understand that.

HungMuscle, I hope you&#39;re suggesting that you would take someone calling you a woman as unoffensive. One doesn&#39;t get to have an "opinion" about a "fact" issue unless one is indeed a moron&#33;
 

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Originally posted by madame_zora+Oct 28 2005, 02:04 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(madame_zora &#064; Oct 28 2005, 02:04 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> is THAT what calls my gender into question? Seriously, I&#39;d like to know because this one particualr comment has been following me around my whole life. As a result of that, I&#39;ve learned a long time ago that men with frail little egos don&#39;t like their "male superiority" threatened.
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It must be the "threatened superiority" issue coming into play. Your openness and honesty in discussing your life, that I’ve seen in the numerous posts that you&#39;ve made here has never left me with any impression that you would care or feel a need to hide anything; especially for a reason as juvenile as "I&#39;m afraid of what the "world (or "LPSG") may think of me". You don’t strike me as the kind of girl that’s into playing “make believe” ( I’m using the word girl with the utmost respect&#33; :p )

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HungMuscle, I hope you&#39;re suggesting that you would take someone calling you a woman as unoffensive. One doesn&#39;t get to have an "opinion" about a "fact" issue unless one is indeed a moron&#33;
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Could&#39;nt agree more. Calling someone a "moron" for being disrespectful is being too kind. 4 letter words are the ones normally used, and rightfully so&#33;
 

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Originally posted by naughty@Oct 27 2005, 08:26 PM
Hi,

May I ask a question? Would most of us be quite as salty if we actually had to repeat a nasty comment face to face? Probably not&#33; I know the net is an opportunity to reinvent and exercise dormant parts of our personalities, but please try to step back and think how you would respond if your comment had been said to you. ....

Naughty
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Hey, Naughty. That question has been brought up before, and my answer is still the same: Offline, in person, I&#39;m no different than I am online. I treat everyone with respect - until they prove to me that they deserve otherwise. If someone acts like a jerk to me in person, I will not walk on eggshells to tell them they are out of line. I don&#39;t make nasty comments lightly, nor do I sit back and take abuse. You, for instance, have never been anything but polite and respectful to me online, and I have never gone on the offensive with you, have I? It&#39;s only the nasty little trolls who try to stir up trouble that I get tough with. I believe fredlet went on an unwarranted rampage, and I felt I needed to set the record straight. The same with the little troll on another thread who, in the face of a challenge of logic, begins name-calling and cursing. Would I be as "salty" to him face to face? You bet your sweet ass I would. Would I take a swing at him? No, but if he did it first, it would also be his last. I&#39;m an easygoing person, but I don&#39;t put up with shit from anyone.
 

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Originally posted by madame_zora@Oct 27 2005, 09:04 PM

HungMuscle, I hope you&#39;re suggesting that you would take someone calling you a woman as unoffensive. One doesn&#39;t get to have an "opinion" about a "fact" issue unless one is indeed a moron&#33;
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Oops. I was trying to defend you. Re-reading what I wrote, I guess it didn&#39;t make too much sense.

By the way, I actually have been called a woman and I kinda liked it. You and I have talked about this before -- your messages resonate more with me without the name-calling. But that&#39;s just me.