U.s. gays considering emigration: where to go?

[mako shark]

Hey guy, I live in a small town on the west coast where people don't spend much time judging folks for their skin color or sexual preferences. California is an expensive place to retire and it's getting more and more screwed up by the minute. I'd be happy to tell you more, just PM me, no need to move out of the US just yet!

What does the LPSG worldwide membership have to say about countries where my husband and I might emigrate?

My situation is relatively simple in that I am of retirement age and anticipate an annual pension of approximately 90,000 USD. I am fairly healthy and have my wits about me and am able to work, if need be. I have a Ph.D. and have been a university professor for decades. I speak perfectly adequate everyday Spanish but do not have the vocabulary to be able to discuss complex topics. Perhaps I could improve.

My husband's situation is more challenging in hat he is only forty-four and is mid-career. He has a Master's degree in social work, that is recognized in most English speaking countries. He speaks rudimentary Spanish and he might be able to learn it well enough to practice his profession. He is veteran and has service related health issues. He is planning to apply for service-connected disability so he may have some secure income also.

I have dual citizenship in the U.S. and Mexico and that may be a fall back choice. The current instability there is worrisome.

 

[twoton]

I didn't see anyone mention Canada. Probably wouldn't be too much of a lifestyle change from the U.S.

 

[ronin001]

I didn't see anyone mention Canada. Probably wouldn't be too much of a lifestyle change from the U.S.

LPSG has some great female members. If I can get one of them to rent me a room till I find a place I may think about moving there. Though not for the gay reason

 

[twoton]

LPSG has some great female members. If I can get one of them to rent me a room till I find a place I may think about moving there. Though not for the gay reason

Yeah, but some of them think that porn is not real life.

 

[LaFemme]

Yeah, but some of them think that porn is not real life.

Who said that?!

 

[LaFemme]

I didn't see anyone mention Canada. Probably wouldn't be too much of a lifestyle change from the U.S.

Canada is awesome. I'm biased though.

 

[canuck_pa]

If you're considering a life changing move because of the current political climate in the US, you might be making a huge mistake. As much as I disagree with Trumpy I don't think your constitution or most Americans would allow him to make drastic fundamental changes to your rights. Already he has backed-off on some of his more questionable campaign promises. I honestly don't believe life in the US will change that much. You've got him for four years at least but who knows what will happen in 2020.
But if you are determined to move better start now. Chances are its going to take quite a lot of time. Trumpy might be voted out before you can move.

 

[ronin001]

Canada is awesome. I'm biased though.

I have already memorized the song

 

[Dave NoCal]

I didn't see anyone mention Canada. Probably wouldn't be too much of a lifestyle change from the U.S.

It is my understanding that their immigration criteria are fairly strict. We have thought about it and my husband is exploring that angle. Thanks for the suggestion.

 

[Dave NoCal]

If you're considering a life changing move because of the current political climate in the US, you might be making a huge mistake. As much as I disagree with Trumpy I don't think your constitution or most Americans would allow him to make drastic fundamental changes to your rights. Already he has backed-off on some of his more questionable campaign promises. I honestly don't believe life in the US will change that much. You've got him for four years at least but who knows what will happen in 2020.
But if you are determined to move better start now. Chances are its going to take quite a lot of time. Trumpy might be voted out before you can move.

Canuck, my discontent is fairly deep and having, lived in other countries for substantial parts of my life, living elsewhere seems totally doable from the standpoint of cultural adaptation. Trump has already breached so many accepted norms that I think that there is no telling what he will do. However, his narcissistic personality may help us in that I believe he will not be satisfied to just be popular with the tinfoil hat crowd. He will probably want broader popularity and that will call for moderation.

 

[twoton]

Who said that?!

Probably one of those people.

 

[DaisyDoesIt]

What does the LPSG worldwide membership have to say about countries where my husband and I might emigrate?

My situation is relatively simple in that I am of retirement age and anticipate an annual pension of approximately 90,000 USD. I am fairly healthy and have my wits about me and am able to work, if need be. I have a Ph.D. and have been a university professor for decades. I speak perfectly adequate everyday Spanish but do not have the vocabulary to be able to discuss complex topics. Perhaps I could improve.

My husband's situation is more challenging in hat he is only forty-four and is mid-career. He has a Master's degree in social work, that is recognized in most English speaking countries. He speaks rudimentary Spanish and he might be able to learn it well enough to practice his profession. He is veteran and has service related health issues. He is planning to apply for service-connected disability so he may have some secure income also.

I have dual citizenship in the U.S. and Mexico and that may be a fall back choice. The current instability there is worrisome.

Obviously, France. You'll both be more 'macho' than the straight French guys, hubby should have pick of jobs.

 

[TheRob]

It is my understanding that their immigration criteria are fairly strict. We have thought about it and my husband is exploring that angle. Thanks for the suggestion.

yes and no one says they are racist scum, strange

one thing to consider might be if you speak any languages other then English, could be a key factor

 

[Dave NoCal]

yes and no one says they are racist scum, strange

one thing to consider might be if you speak any languages other then English, could be a key factor

Fluent everyday Spanish, including rolled Rs.

 

[Mr Ed in Mass]

Mexico is lovely this time of year

 

[canuck_pa]

Dave NoCal
Canadian Immigration can be a little strict and from what I've heard hard to navigate. Some people hire an immigration lawyer.
Your education could help you but your age could be a hinderance. Your partners health issues could also be a problem however his qualifications as a social worker could be a benefit
NAFT, which Trumpy wants to renegotiate, identifies preferred or exempt occupations that could make moving to Canada much easier. A friend of mine moved to Seattle to be with his boyfriend, his occupation was exempt and all he had to do was provide a few papers and a letter from a lawyer. Took him less than six months but he was going there to work as well.
As a last resort you could apply for refugee status if you think your life is in danger because of American policies towards your sexual orientation. Mind you that would be very difficult to proof especially coming from America.

 

[BikerBear]

France is rather nice.... My husband and I live here with no prejudices, and are very accepted amongst the population. I'm originally from California

 

[chrisrobin]

Interesting, but if you're going to go go quick because there might well be a quid quo pro from other nations about letting any immigrants in the usa - the invisible wall

 

[Industrialsize]

Come to Massachusetts!
1. They cannot repeal Obamacare in this State. We passed it first in 2006 and it is and will remain State Law
2. First State to allow same-sex marriage
3. A gazillion universities. (lots of smart people)
4. EVERY Statewide office is held by a Democrat except for our Republican Governor who we like and would be a Moderate Democrat anywhere else.(He did not vote Trump)
5. Massachusetts is "no Place For Hate". Every protection that minorities need has already been put into place.
6. Hillary Clinton won EVERY COUNTY in this State.
7. We JUST LEGALIZED POT

 

[Mr Ed in Mass]

Come to Massachusetts!
1. They cannot repeal Obamacare in this State. We passed it first in 2006 and it is and will remain State Law
2. First State to allow same-sex marriage
3. A gazillion universities. (lots of smart people)
4. EVERY Statewide office is held by a Democrat except for our Republican Governor who we like and would be a Moderate Democrat anywhere else.(He did not vote Trump)
5. Massachusetts is "no Place For Hate". Every protection that minorities need has already been put into place.
6. Hillary Clinton won EVERY COUNTY in this State.
7. We JUST LEGALIZED POT

The People's Republic of Massachusetts