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Guy comes in asking for help because he feels bad about being cut. I provide a diffent side to help him feel good about his circumcision.

Anti-circers come back with mroe of their drivel , trying to make the guy feel even worse about being cut.
 

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Where did you get the idea that the OP was looking for a new circumcision-positive outlook for himself? He merely asked whether others similarly situated had experienced the deleterious consequences he had.

It must suck for some guys to grow up in a society where intact penises are the overwhelming majority and know that you can't ever have that. Others deal with it by feeling special. It's not up to us to tell him what to feel. Though I agree it's better when people achieve peace, whether that might mean keeping a son intact or by trying restoration (which doesn't work for everyone, and may in fact increase frustration).

I suspect more circumcised guys are fine with it if they know it was done in their youth for legitimate, unavoidable medical reasons, rather than those who were cut for conformity or spurious prospective health bases.
 
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Since 80% of what I say is bullshit, and folks like mandoman and his other anti-circer friends can say whatever they want and be believed (were they cut as adult and experienced both sides ?), there is no point in my trying to show the other side of the coin because it is pointless.

Since the anti circers started on their jihad, they have used effective but often dishonest methods to get their point across, and continue to do so. And they'll try to discredit anyone who challenges their so called evidence.

Perhand they should rename this forum the "Anti--Circ" forum or "Mandoman's forum".

Can't say I have made any friends here, so there is no need to say goodbye.
 

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What's so anti-circ about saying anyone who wants a circumcision -- tight, loose, twice, thrice, any method -- should go ahead and get one? Young Native, I and many others heartily endorse people checking out their options fully and doing what they feel is right for themselves. Just because someone doesn't exuberate over penis cutting doesn't mean they're anti-circ. Except in the eyes of circumcision evangelists, who are quite content to take that choice and right away from people.
 

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My two cents are simple. The results one has in adulthood depend on the quality of the job when it was done as an infant. Mine was botched and there have been many problems because if it. Had it been done well I probably wouldn't care. I do believe that there are conditions where it is a necessary procedure and I also agree that nobody dies in adulthood from infant circumcision.

My objections to circumcision are based on the dishonesty of the MD's doing it. There is no reliable documentation with regards to the good or bad of circumcision that is not tainted by one side or the other. Insurance companies are now refusing to pay for it without medical need.

If it is done for the right reason I have zero problems with it. If it is done by coercion so that some hack MD can stuff his wallet with more money after a sales job that often has more fantasy than fact in it then it is wrong.

While I am not for a ban on the procedure and I intensely dislike the concept of some government agency stepping in on that subject I do feel that it is one of the most "overperformed" and unnecessary medical procedures ever invented.

The other thing I feel is that any Surgeon practicing this procedure needs to have a great deal of specialized training simply because there is no way that any surgeon is going to be able to predict what happens when puberty hits that same male over a decade later. Something seeming OK in 1960 may not be as great in 1973!

There is room for both sides on this debate. Mine is adopted and not circ'd. There is no problem and unless there is one I cannot endorse fixing something that is not broken.
 

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Guy comes in asking for help because he feels bad about being cut.…

It's true that, as usual, things went quite astray from the "support" part of LPSG on this one.

OP, it's shitty that (frankly) someone performed a cosmetic surgery on you without your consent. No way to deny that, and I would never deny you your anger. It's well deserved.

But I don't believe there's anything wrong with your dick, and I've never even seen the thing. There is nothing wrong with the way a cut dick looks. A lot of times, when a guy is hard, it's hard to tell the difference, too. And just taking a long time to cum doesn't mean the circumcision is the culprit; I have a rather sensitive foreskin, and it still takes me ages. While it's true that circumcision can reduce sensitivity, there are plenty of cut guys who cum fast out there, and you can never know 100% why your dick is the way it is. Wondering if it's biology or because of surgery is one thing; pinning it on either will give you anger and no direction to put it in. And that's a shitty outcome for you.

The truth is, you only get one body. You can loathe it or embrace it, and I strongly suggest you do the latter. If you want, you can always restore, but that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with your dick as it is.

And anyone who looks down on someone else because of how any part of them looks is an asshole. Full stop.

All the best, dude.
 

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If you happen to think that a scar is more beautiful than the penis the way nature designed it.
 

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perhaps I'm in the minority, but i still think a cut dick is more visually appealing


Maybe you're right, but in my opinion it's not a price worth paying for all the nerve endings which get hacked off and the reduction in feeling during sex.
 

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"Just because it was not medically necessary does not mean it was done with negative intent."

Of course not--probably very few, if any, parents have their children circumutilated with malevolent intentions...most likely from ignorance and/or cajoling by the doctor.

"The nerves remain."

Indeed--they remain on the cutting-room floor, so to speak--or go along with the foreskin itself when it is sold for a big profit.

"If you put lube on your glans, you immediatly notice a different level of sensation because this is something you are not used to."

Sure--because it's different. But mainly because the oil or moisture facilitates stimulation of the (far lesser number of) nerves through the keratinized skin of the glans.

"...silumates intercource..."

?????

"Girls prefer that."

...which is, naturally, very important to me.....

"I've never had chafing problems."

...so it follows that others are just faking it?
 
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Can someone help explain something please because I am really confused by aspects of this thread and, as I am not in possession of a penis, I can't work it out myself!

The OP states that because he is 'cut' he has lost nerve endings and is therefore less sensitive resulting in the issue that plenty of guys would kill for, taking ages to cum!

Yet a few sentences later he states that, because he is cut and therefore more sensitive areas are exposed, he gets involuntary erections caused by the friction of his clothing against his exposed glans.

For me this seems a massive contradiction which tends to indicate he may be making lots of this up, am i missing something?

And before the bitching starts, i am NOT trying to cause trouble, I am genuinely confused.
 

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Can someone help explain something please because I am really confused by aspects of this thread and, as I am not in possession of a penis, I can't work it out myself!

The OP states that because he is 'cut' he has lost nerve endings and is therefore less sensitive resulting in the issue that plenty of guys would kill for, taking ages to cum!

Yet a few sentences later he states that, because he is cut and therefore more sensitive areas are exposed, he gets involuntary erections caused by the friction of his clothing against his exposed glans.

For me this seems a massive contradiction which tends to indicate he may be making lots of this up, am i missing something?

And before the bitching starts, i am NOT trying to cause trouble, I am genuinely confused.


Erections caused by the friction of clothing, are generally not pleasant at all.
contact with underwear is not comfortable at all.
normally the glans should be glossy and smooth .

glans , outer foreskin, inner foreskin and frenulum all give feeling each is sensitive



glans is highly touch & somewhat temperature sensitive

inner foreskin is touch, temperature and stretch sensitive

frenulum is touch temperature and and slightly stretch sensitive.




I do not even think cut guys can even orgasm I tried doing it the way cut guys do and I fail to orgasm , just ejaculate only.
 

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Can someone help explain something please because I am really confused by aspects of this thread and, as I am not in possession of a penis, I can't work it out myself!

The OP states that because he is 'cut' he has lost nerve endings and is therefore less sensitive resulting in the issue that plenty of guys would kill for, taking ages to cum!

Yet a few sentences later he states that, because he is cut and therefore more sensitive areas are exposed, he gets involuntary erections caused by the friction of his clothing against his exposed glans.

For me this seems a massive contradiction which tends to indicate he may be making lots of this up, am i missing something?

And before the bitching starts, i am NOT trying to cause trouble, I am genuinely confused.


Let me try and rid you of your confusion.

The fact the penis loses thousands of nerve endings during circumcision is a medical fact. The foreskin is a really sensitive piece of skin, and sex without those nerve endings is not as pleasurable as with, simply because less nerves means less feeling.

However, the glans of the penis, which is also sensitive, and is designed to be protected from touching pants all day by the foreskin, is completely exposed if the foreskin has been removed. It loses a lot of sexual sensitivity due to rubbing all day against pants/boxers. This also reduces sexual pleasure and in many cases reduces the time it takes to ejaculate.

Yes I'm sure there are many men out there who suffer from premature ejaculation who would love to reduce the amount of time it takes to cum. But I assure you, when you're having sex, and have been thrusting for ages and ages and want to cum, it's frustrating as hell trying to get enough sensitivity in your dick to get the cum you need. In my case it takes ages and ages to get a cum due to lack of sensitivity in my dick caused by circumcision. I also think the power of my orgasm is not as strong as uncut guys. Sometimes I ejaculate and get very little sensation during the ejaculation. If you compare the look on the faces off guys who are uncut with guys who are cut in porn films when they are having an orgasm the difference is obvious. Uncut guys are in ecstasy as they cum. Cut guys often have a pained look on their face as they cum. I know that feeling well. They've been denied a full orgasm by having lost thousands of nerves from their dick.

The rubbing against pants/underwear does cause sensation when it's not wanted. Despite the reduction in sensitivity and sexual pleasure, the head of my dick is not completely numb, so continual rubbing against boxer shorts or jeans does create feeling, which often leads to an erection at completely the wrong time. With the rubbing continuing it's very difficult to get rid of the erection. I don't have the luxury of a foreskin, which would be rolled over the head to protect it and help get rid of unwanted erections. Circumcision leads to the glans being stimulated all the while, not just in sexual situations. My feeling of "exposure" is permanent.
 
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Since 80% of what I say is bullshit, and folks like mandoman and his other anti-circer friends can say whatever they want and be believed (were they cut as adult and experienced both sides ?), there is no point in my trying to show the other side of the coin because it is pointless.

Since the anti circers started on their jihad, they have used effective but often dishonest methods to get their point across, and continue to do so. And they'll try to discredit anyone who challenges their so called evidence.

Perhand they should rename this forum the "Anti--Circ" forum or "Mandoman's forum".

Can't say I have made any friends here, so there is no need to say goodbye.

Ummm....would not Endued know what he is speaking of, having experienced both states as uncut and cut? In looking at his pics he seems to have had circ in adult life. Or are you discounting him because he expresses a more level view than yourself? Hard to rally people around the circ is great banner when there is a person who, like you, got self same procedure done in adult life, and is saying that you are 80% bullshit filled.