UK Gov's clampdown on firesharing

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  1. flame boy

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    Guardian.co.uk | Mandelson seeks to amend copyright law in new crackdown on filesharing

    Insane. How exactly does the government believe this will be enforced? A large number of ISP's have said this is unlawful and will not take part in it - there is the first problem. Secondly, how will they be able to locate the violations - if I use an ISP mask or any other simple software I will become untraceable. What if I am in a cafe with free wifi, will they shut down the cafe's connection? I think they will have a hellish time trying to prove any cases. My personal thoughts on the matter are simply - why dont the government worry about things that truly matter and stop fannying about with bullshit.
     
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    You should know by now that the current government believes they are omnipotent!!! They spend copious amounts of money towards consultations, expert recommendations, study after study, and then totally ignore the "professional recommendations" and do what the f&ck they want.
     
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    Oh no! This does kinda go over me head a bit, but I'm not into endless databases with everyone's private details and patterns of behaviour on them.

    Big Brother is rubbish. :(
     
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    They are playing to a tabloid agenda so they can claim to be policing the internet on behalf of the world. Remember Brown's off the cuff comment about a year ago when he said he was saving the world's economy - he meant it! This is more of the same. The result - some middle class housewife somewhere will be prosecuted under some anti-terrorism legislation for downloading Frank Sinatra's "White Christmas" .

    What is worrying is that policing the internet is a tabloid agenda and there might even be votes in it for Labour.
     
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    Vote Liberal Democrat!!!
     
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    Does that mean we are all going to get cold this winter :confused:
     
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    Dunno but arson attacks are gonna double!
     
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    Balls: a slimey oportunist. Miliband (would you trust him alone with your toddlers) and the dictator, Mandelson (the last people to elect him have the most poluted environment in UK thanks to this golem) Brown the would be godfather, and his puppet master who asks how much money do you have before he introduces his wife to you. Decent, honest, young Brits dying for these monsters. We Brits should be ashamed. And Cameron and his hooray friends can't wait to enjoy the same perks.
     
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    It is so refreshing to read about someone else's problems besides the ones here in America!:biggrin1:

    Internet and copyright laws don't very well mix much to the chagrin of those that own media!

    To my brothers in the UK, good luck!
     
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    well kinda true isp has got to keep 3 month history of its subscribers. but more worrying is your local council can track your internet use and emails. even your phone and put a camera on your house. all without checking with the police. think thats more of a worry. like check out your councellers would you trust them with this kind of power.
     
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    Yeah I was discussing this elsewhere, it's rather scary.
     
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    I don't think anyone should be punished without a fair trial.

    However...perhaps ppl should download less content illegally, and start payin for it? ;)

    *arrests Flamey and puts him in the stocks*
     
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    A law which requires ISPs to cut off those considered to be breaking the law - something not in the business interest of the ISP to do - requires that their records of their customers' internet use are available to government departments. In view of the spate of recent leaks by government of data it is inevitable that this material will get into the public domain.
     
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    It's one thing to protect an industry to maintain a profit motive, but it's another to essentially place authority in the hands of the big guys. Why does it seem to be all the English-speaking countries that have terrible politics? Doesn't leave a lazy guy like me with much choices for places to move to D=
     
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    censorship of the internet is greater than people think. isp's have to keep six month records of all customers web browsing history. emails can also be read without police consent ie. local councils thank labour for that brought in under anti terrorism. there are also government agencies checking internet users yes its true i know of one in glasgow. this time checking for peodophiles and terrorism. the internet has become a very good tool that could become abused by people in government.
     
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    Well yeah but what COULD happen isn't always the big issue. The same could be said about the other side; too LITTLE regulation can lead to abuse by individuals (alot more in fact, but that's another story). I'm not familiar with uk law so I don't know the extent of Internet regulation over there, but a little regulation doesn't automatically mean it's gonna lead to some fascist Orwellian police state (fun fact: Orwell was socialist and pro-big government)
     
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    Scotty is right - we already have a system where a great deal of internet usage can be and is checked under anti-terrorism laws. Up to a point this should be fine - if someone is a terrorist we all want them caught. But it is generating enormous quantities of data about private internet use which is in the hands of public bodies. And their security is probably not very good. Sooner or later there will be a big leak.

    Example of wrong use of anti-terrorism legislation in the UK:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...orism-laws-used-to-spy-on-noisy-children.html
     
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    It's true that there are always risks of something bad happening but keep in mind that government authority doesn't just stop at terrorism. They also need to watch out for various forms of financial fraud, copyright infringement, and other things. I don't think anyone would really prefer to leave these things unregulated and trust all those fortune 500 companies to behave; we all know how humanitarian these guys are, right?
     
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