Before that. Hmmm......? There you go again.
Look, I am leaving this. I don't know what you hope to gain from being a member here, but so far you have been at least 80% antagonistic in one way or another. I don't have a problem with conspiracy theories, they are a bit like myth to me in that somewhere there is some truth, but you do not wish to discuss your ideas, rather you have just put down everyone else in a patronising let alone incorrect manner.
I like many others here have far more knowledge of the world than you know and to be told that we are confused or don't know what we are talking about by someone who has not made any serious contribution to this site is frankly bad manners, and I can tell you for certain, that manners cost nothing.