Upset at American 'Morals'

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The US can't afford universal health care. We're too busy spending money on defending ourselves, Canada, and Europe. :tongue:

LOL. The only country that has ever invaded Canada is the USA. So you can perhaps understand if we're not as grateful for being "defended" as the republican bloggers and pundits would like.

Canada shelved its plans to invade the USA in the early 60s, and constructed a universal health care system instead. :biggrin1:
 

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But not in comparison to Western Europe or First World Asia, the countries to which we are comparing ourselves.

In some areas of education, particularly post-graduate, America is generally ahead of any of one particular country however post-graduates make only 8% of Americans.


I agree very much with this and the other posts by Jason_els.

For one of the richest industrialized nations on Earth our educational system is in shambles. A lot of it is intentional. Our goverment wants people to be "dumbed down". That gives them opportunity to proceed with their agenda of the "one world government" with little oposition. Most of us (those my age and older anyway) won't see this happen but I am very convinced that is the direction we are headed. The European Union and the confiscation of all guns in many countries is only part of the beggining stages. It's ALL the major governments in the world not just the U.S. who are working toward the "united Earth" goal.

If you don't agree, that's fine. If you blast me for this, that's fine too.
It's just my honest opinion. I won't argue this any further regardless of any other posts about it. I won't argue politics and seldom make a politcal comment but this thread got so interesting. There are many, many good points being made here on this by those posting in this thread. It has now
gotten off the topic of morals and into politics.

The U.S. has never and probably will never be the most liberal society on the planet. There will always be religeous conservatives here.
I consider myself conservative on some things. The waste of tax money for one and the intrusion of big government into every aspect of people's lives for example. Laws based on religion and laws about sex between consenting adults I do NOT agree with. That's not the proper realm of our goverment.

The U.S. is NOT a true democracy...it's a federalism.
The Netherlands is probably the closest thing to true democracy right now.
Socialized medical care would be fine if done properly. I just fear a total socialist government like the former U.S.S.R. Just remember what things were like there and why it colapsed after less than 100 years.

New England is a good example of liberality in the U.S. The Southern states aka the "bible belt" is a good example of conservatism. The bad part is the other liberal stuff that goes along with the European style found in New England. There are more laws on the books in Massachusetts than
the rest of the counrty combined. The unionization of all work places and the need for a license of some kind just go out of your house.
There is no happy medium in this country as some else has already said.
 

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LOL. The only country that has ever invaded Canada is the USA. So you can perhaps understand if we're not as grateful for being "defended" as the republican bloggers and pundits would like.

Canada shelved its plans to invade the USA in the early 60s, and constructed a universal health care system instead. :biggrin1:


A lot of people in the U.S. don't know this. The U.S. did plan to take over Canada in the war of 1812. Our leaders saw a threat from the build up of British troops in Canada. I am glad we can be friends now.
 
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LOL. The only country that has ever invaded Canada is the USA.

YOU dropped Celine Dion on us!

I think that more than compensates.
 

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Is that sort of like how the US scrapped its plans to find Osama bin Laden because they were too busy making sure Janet Jackson never exposed her nipple again? :rolleyes:


shush.....you also gave us pamela anderson and despite baywatch being great for lookin at boobs.....you can have her back
 
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Of course there was the French and Indian War (Seven Years War to you Canadians) when proto Canada attacked the proto US.

I saw Janet Jackson's nipple. It was horrible....
 

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shush.....you also gave us pamela anderson and despite baywatch being great for lookin at boobs.....you can have her back

YOU dropped Celine Dion on us!

And that bitch Anne Murray, too!

And the world can thank America for...

McDonalds...
Country and Western music...
Donald Trump (and Rosie... hell, all of the View people)...
NASCAR...
Britney Spears...

I could go on, but I'll stop with...

G.W. Bush.

I'm no Celine or Anne Murray fan, but I think America is the bigger cultural polluter by a mile. :biggrin1:
 

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And the world can thank America for...

McDonalds...
Country and Western music...
Donald Trump (and Rosie... hell, all of the View people)...
NASCAR...
Britney Spears...

I could go on, but I'll stop with...

G.W. Bush.

I'm no Celine or Anne Murray fan, but I think America is the bigger cultural polluter by a mile. :biggrin1:

touche.....


fine i'll give you that round

however, how can i take you seriously when your currency is called the looney?


oh no you didnt
oh yes i did
((high fives self))

((ducks head in shame for having a conversation with myself on the internet))
 

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Of course there was the French and Indian War (Seven Years War to you Canadians) when proto Canada attacked the proto US.

I saw Janet Jackson's nipple. It was horrible....

Does it bother anyone else that the 7 year war really didnt last 7 years?
 
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cultural polluter by a mile

Cultural polluter???

Is it our fault the world desires these things?

We offered them:

Winslow Homer
John Singer Sargent
Edgar Allen Poe
Mark Twain
Scott Joplin
Andy Warhol
Thomas Cole
Sylvia Plathe
Dorothy Parker
ee cummings
Kurt Cobain
Ernest Hemingway
Walt Whitman
Martha Graham
John Ford
Truman Capote
Philip Glass
Robert Altman
Will Rogers
Ansel Adams
Twyla Tharp
Tennessee Williams
Jackson Pollock
Mahalia Jackson
Orson Welles
Hermes Pan

... and these are just off the top of my head.

But the world just keeps buying Big Macs and Coke. You don't like our shit, stop buying it!

:usa:
 

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In Texas' capital city, Austin, the most popular public swimming area is tops optional. Just outside of Austin on the shores of Lake Travis is Hippie Hollow.

I'm sure Massachusetts has clothing optional areas of its own but I doubt they are as thoroughly integrated into the local culture as are these two places in Texas.

By "local culture" you must mean something extremely tiny. The state of Texas as a whole (which is what I would think of as local culture) is the chief engine of this right-wing crusade to force puritanical hysteria back on everybody else in the US. Texans typically make fun of Massachusetts by claiming it is nothing but liberal freedoms. To my mind, this is actually proof that the liberal freedoms you'd see in nude swimming spots in MA are in fact integrated in the local culture. In TX, those two spots (and even Austin itself) are just regarded as anomalies and dismissed.
 

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By "local culture" you must mean something extremely tiny ... In TX, those two spots (and even Austin itself) are just regarded as anomalies and dismissed.

While the local culture of Austin is widely regarded as anomalous in Texas, it is by no stretch of the imagination "dismissed" by anyone.