US circumcision rates drop to record low of 33%

[JTalbain]

There's a huge difference between discussing a foreskin/circumcision and deplorable acts based on skin color. How many have you met and heard about that were beaten, mugged and killed because they'd been circumcised or hadn't been?

Well, one of the reasons which used to be given for having your child circumcised was to keep them from getting harassed/beaten in the locker room because their penis looked different. But you are mistaking my intentions here. I was merely drawing a parallel. Allow me to elaborate:

There has not been very much extensive medical research about any benefits of circumcision, to the point where the AAP doesn't recommend it being done. However, in the example I gave, there are definite and clearly defined risk allowing your child to remain in their natural state, and the same basic issue of self-determination of body is at stake. Given that many people claim parental rights as the reason for circumcising their children, my question was, "Would they make the same decision (altering their child's natural state) in different circumstances for the same reason?" If not, what is it about this situation that makes it different?

 

[karldergrosse]

At last, common sense is reaching the US too...

One lives in hope, Eurotop--one lives in hope...!!! :notworthy:

 

[karldergrosse]

Plus the ever increasing cost of health care and citizens are now realizing that the "cutting" is really not required.

Indeed it's not required, in any form or fashion whatsoever, even though there are actually people out there who believe that it is required by law...!!! And there are others who are duped by the self-serving lies spewed out by conscienceless circfanatics. (It was American cryptoperverts with a vested interest in the atrocity who instigated the infamous, totally unscientific and misleading "studies" in Africa that cause thousands of trusting men there to submit to the mutilation of their penises.)

Not only is circumcision not required, it is contraindicated in any and every way that one can possibly imagine. It deprives a man of about 75% of his natural penile sensitivity: most of the penis' pleasure-specific nerves are concentrated not in the glans, as popularly thought, but in the foreskin itself. Baby boys are born with the birthright of a foreskin, and no one whosoever has the moral or ethical right to deprive them of it...!!!

CIRCUMCISION = CIRCUMUTILATION = ATROCITY !

 

[SirConcis]

The african AIDS study that lead to the conclusion that circumcision had a significant preventive impact were not done by an americam it was lead by a doctor from France.

Also, most circumcision retain most fo the inner foreskin, so you argument that it causes loss of 75% is an unwarranted exageration.

 

[mandoman]

Two of the three South African studies were led by Americans. One was Daniel Halperin of Harvard University. Halperin is on record saying he wants to make his grandfather proud (his grandfather was a mohel). The other American was Robert Bailey, who was an advocate of infant circumcision long before hopping onto the HIV/AIDS gravy train. Look up his track record and you’ll realize he’s been trying to make “universal circumcision” his legacy.
I don't know what Avert's deal is. I also don't know why studies which showed higher HIV infection rates for circumcised men in 6 African countries were ignored.

 

[B_tim001]

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[dirkjesje]

Why fix something that is not broken?

The origin of circumcision started more than milennia ago inducted by several religions.
Most people living as nomades in the desert, with very less water.
In those days - circumcision had an advantage. (The head isn t so soft and wet anymore - so with the sand causes less wounds and infections )
But today?
If there is no medical reason to do circumcision, I don t understand why parents decide to put their son's penis under a knife?
Let the son decide when he is old enough if he wants a circumcision or not - for whatever the doubtable benefits are.

In my country (Belgium) - if it s not for a medical reason - it s called plastic chirurgie, and no medical insurance will pay then.

 

[B_tim001]

@ dirkjesje - The same here in slovenia. I noticed a price once I was checking some pastic surgery web site and it was 1000€

 

[Andre4w]

Those Circumcision rates make me sad.

 

[B_RedDude]

US circumcision rates drop to record low of 33%


Shame. That's a lot of ugly peckers out there.

No wonder a lot of young guys don't want their's to be seen.

 

[B_Marius567]

gay men seem to like foreskins

 

[Snozzle]

Most people living as nomades in the desert, with very less water.
In those days - circumcision had an advantage.

But circumcising as they did it back then, with a stone knife, was MUCH more dangerous than anything it might prevent (especially with their short life-expectancy - virtually no man ever got old enough to contract penile cancer).

(The head isn t so soft and wet anymore - so with the sand causes less wounds and infections )

But circumcising makes a wound, one he would be very unlikely to get just there otherwise.

No, the idea that it started for "health reasons" is a modern myth.

 

[Snozzle]

US circumcision rates drop to record low of 33%


Shame. That's a lot of ugly peckers out there.

No wonder a lot of young guys don't want their's to be seen.

Now they're in the minority, it's the cut ones that will commonly be considered "ugly". Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

 

[Snozzle]

How many have you met and heard about that were beaten, mugged and killed because they'd been circumcised or hadn't been?

By definition, if they'd been killed, we never met them. But there have been many, many instances of men being beaten, mugged or killed because of their circumcision status, where that was a marker of race or religion. Famously the Nazis used to take men they suspected of being Jewish down an alley and pull their pants down to check. (Germans who'd been circumcised for medical reasons would carry a certificate to that effect.) Roman Polanski made himself a wax foreskin in the hope of escaping this (it probably wouldn't have worked, so he's lucky it never got tested).

And that's not counting all the men (as in Kenya recently) who have been subected to forcible circumcision.

 

[Hoss]

By definition, if they'd been killed, we never met them. But there have been many, many instances of men being beaten, mugged or killed because of their circumcision status, where that was a marker of race or religion. Famously the Nazis used to take men they suspected of being Jewish down an alley and pull their pants down to check. (Germans who'd been circumcised for medical reasons would carry a certificate to that effect.) Roman Polanski made himself a wax foreskin in the hope of escaping this (it probably wouldn't have worked, so he's lucky it never got tested).

And that's not counting all the men (as in Kenya recently) who have been subected to forcible circumcision.

My response was directed at JTalbain and was in regard to racism. I simply adore the way you selectively snipped (yeah that's right I said snipped:lmao: :lmao: )part of my reply. I've bolded that part below.

There's a huge difference between discussing a foreskin/circumcision and deplorable acts based on skin color. How many have you met and heard about that were beaten, mugged and killed because they'd been circumcised or hadn't been?

JTalbain replied in a dignified & intelligent manner & didn't reduce my entry just to satisfy an agenda.

 

[mandoman]

US circumcision rates drop to record low of 33%


Shame. That's a lot of ugly peckers out there.

No wonder a lot of young guys don't want their's to be seen.

What is your attraction for a scar, and some genital dryness?

 

[Uncutpete]

Like I said, I live in the u.s. And the white women here 9 out of 10 times like men who are cut. It's common u.s. knowledge.

It may be "common knowledge" where you come from, or you just may be imagining it. I have had a natural (uncircumcised) penis for all of my 54 years. I have had sex with hundreds of women on both coasts and in between. The huge majority of them (I'd estimate over 95%) have said that they loved my foreskin, whether or not they have been with an intact guy before or not. I won't bother to quote, but they often remark on how much fun it is to play with, how they love the look of the way it rolls back to reveal the head, how they love the feeling of the way it moves inside them. Of course, I love the sensations that it gives me, the sensitivity of my glans, the fact that I can jerk without lube, and fuck for hours without making the woman sore. How sad that you believe such garbage

 

[madman411]

wow, the bickering in this thread is unreal. we are all adults, no? why can't we just have a discussion without going for each others necks?

i was born in the US and circumcised as a newborn. i will admit that i disagree with it being done to me, but what's done is done. my mother is british so it's interesting to see how she didn't object to it... she didn't even have a chance. according to her it was done by the doctor (a british doctor) without my parents consent.

circumcision in the US is still very prevalent. quite a few of my friends i went to high school with have had babies over the past couple of years, and they've all opted to have their child circumcised. many of their health insurance providers wouldn't pay for it, so they all paid for it out of their own pocket. most recently a friend of mine had a baby boy and the grandparents insisted on paying for the surgery since their daughter was too young to pay for it herself. just because the boy isn't being cut in the hospital immediately following birth doesn't mean he was left uncircumcised. i'm not sure whether these statistics are in relation to baby boys leaving the hospital circumcised, or whether a poll was taken several months after his birth. i just find it hard to believe it's down to 33% when many, many new parents are still having the procedure performed once they leave the hospital.

 

[Snozzle]

My response was directed at JTalbain and was in regard to racism. I simply adore the way you selectively snipped (yeah that's right I said snipped:lmao: :lmao: )part of my reply. I've bolded that part below.


JTalbain replied in a dignified & intelligent manner & didn't reduce my entry just to satisfy an agenda.

Get off your high hoss. You asked a question and I answered it. So you don't like my answer? That's not because it was either undignified or unintelligent (it wasn't), but more probably because it wasn't the one you wanted (or expected).

 

[mandoman]

It may be "common knowledge" where you come from, or you just may be imagining it. I have had a natural (uncircumcised) penis for all of my 54 years. I have had sex with hundreds of women on both coasts and in between. The huge majority of them (I'd estimate over 95%) have said that they loved my foreskin, whether or not they have been with an intact guy before or not. I won't bother to quote, but they often remark on how much fun it is to play with, how they love the look of the way it rolls back to reveal the head, how they love the feeling of the way it moves inside them. Of course, I love the sensations that it gives me, the sensitivity of my glans, the fact that I can jerk without lube, and fuck for hours without making the woman sore. How sad that you believe such garbage

This is my experience as well, though my sample is decidedly smaller.
Thanks for tell it like it really is, Pete.