USA stops payment to UNESCO

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okay my fals with netherlands and neandertaler...

But neandertaler ARE part of the homo erectus family... But they arnt homo sapiens sapiens (thats us)
Also they didnt know anything about nations... So they didnt count
Then you could say bears and wolfs were there first...
And it isnt totaly cleare why they are gone... It could be us or the clima changes... And a new DNA theory says that they became a part of us...


And the UN isnt equal to the UNESCO... Its just a part that cares for edjucation culture sience and communication...
And the question is: is it okay that the usa says, cause the world votes in a demokratikle way different then the usa, we stop paying...
 
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okay my fals...

But neandertaler ARE part of the homo erectus family... But they arnt homo sapiens sapiens (thats us)
Also they didnt know anything about nations... So they didnt count


And UN isnt equal with the unesco... Unesco is just a part that cares for edjucation culture sience and communication...
And the question is: is it okay that the usa says, cause the world votes in a demokratikle way different then the usa, we stop paying...

The Obama administration had some mending to do with the Jewish constituency and had no political motivation to get in a way of existing legislation.
 

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Reality check:
“The vote to grant Palestinian membership in Unesco is no substitute for direct negotiations, but it is deeply damaging for Unesco,” U.S. Ambassador to the UN Susan Rice said in a message posted on her Twitter feed.
Under U.S. law, the United States is prohibited from giving funds to the UN or any UN agency that grants the Palestine Liberation Organization the same standing as member states.
“Existing U.S. law mandates that we cut off funding to any UN body that approves such a request,” U.S. Representative Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, a Florida Republican and chairwoman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, said in an e-mailed statement today.


U.S. Halts Unesco Funding Following Palestinian Membership Vote - Businessweek
 

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i support palestina as a member of the UN, cause its the only way left for them...
They tryd it with war and terror... It reasonable failed
They tryd it with negotiations... Israel is clearly not mutch interrested
So ther last hope is help from the rest of the world
 

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i support palestina as a member of the UN, cause its the only way left for them...
They tryd it with war and terror... It reasonable failed
They tryd it with negotiations... Israel is clearly not mutch interrested
So ther last hope is help from the rest of the world

I agree. Palestine has been a recognisable State for most of recorded history. Why should it be wiped off the political map now?
 

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Palestine has been a recognisable State for most of recorded history.

+1

Palestine is mention as far back as c. 1150 BCE in Egyptian documents - thus have a history of more than 3000 years. Some documents even dates further back.

Overview

Israel have a history of 63 years...

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Israel has a little longer history than 63 years. Brief History of Israel and the Jewish People

It does, and it is more complicated than is often and too easily presented. Modern archaeology is dismantling a lot of the myths presented in the Bible. Israel itself had a very short history before Sargon destroyed it utterly. The history of Judea is more stable in the region. But in a way TP is correct, because the idea of some modern Israeli Zionists regarding big Israel, is just wrong. It didn't exist like that.

But whatever, this doesn't change the fact that Palestine is a State and should be recognised as such.
 

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Israel has a little longer history than 63 years. Brief History of Israel and the Jewish People

You're mixing history and religion to some extend now. Facts are:

  • Palestine have a history of more than 3000 years (inhabited by palestians, jews, arabs, and pretty much a bunch of different tribes, people or whatever you prefer to call them)
  • Prior to 1948, Palestine has been referred to as various names including Southern Syria, Syria Palestina, Kingdom of Jerusalem, Iudaea Province, Coele-Syria, Retjenu, Canaan - but particularly, Palestine.
  • The state of Israel was created in 1948 following the 1947 decision in the UN (hey, UN is lovely when it supports the US, but the worst crap when it opposes... strange thing, this democracy).
The UN decision was to have two independent states in Palestine - one for Arabs, one for Jews... Which we all know resulted in war and one state in Palestine - one for Jews. Which actually was one of the concerns back in 1917 in the Balfour Declaration:

"Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have also agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2nd, 1917, by the Government of His Britannic Majesty, and adopted by the said Powers, in favour of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country"

Guess someone forget about the " nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine".

Let's keep this to facts - not religion or pro/con Jews, Arabs, Palestinians...

Let's move the UN headquarter to... say China :tongue:
 

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I agree. Palestine has been a recognisable State for most of recorded history. Why should it be wiped off the political map now?

This is a very misleading statement,
if applied to the present understanding
of Palestine, its ethnic majority, and
what is a state than it is not true.

I support palestina as a member of the UN, cause its the only way left for them...
They tryd it with war and terror... It reasonable failed
They tryd it with negotiations... Israel is clearly not mutch interrested
So ther last hope is help from the rest of the world

This denies the progress made on this issue in the last 18 years.
(Mostly due to negotiations with Israel.)

Not withstanding some spectacular yet temporary setbacks,
substantial progress as been made; taking into account
the complexities involved, the results are nothing short of miraculous.

On such a contentious, passion rasing issue,
one must guard against simplistic viewpoints.

For the record, I don't see denial of funds to UNESCO
by member states as legitimate. Seems reactionary to me.

As for the anti UN sentiment in the US, a state cannot
commit to an institution such as the UN and then
undermind it at every whim and expect credibility.
 

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of what progress do you talking?
Do you mean the wall that israel build? Or that they treat every palestinan like a prisoner? That israel stops every support for palestina with military power?
The increasing poorness cause of this?
That still bombards palestine when ever they want?
Or that israel increase the speed of building new settlements?

Or that some palestinans are still attacing israel?

No i dont see a progress...


The best proof that there isnt a real progress is that the usa stoped ther payment just cause palestine is now part of the unesco
 
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