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Discussion in 'Et Cetera, Et Cetera' started by Lex, Jan 8, 2006.
Such a chance to educate people about the ever-changing nature of love and the human condition, and they wimp out.
That makes me sad too, Lex.
They must be afraid that people seeing the movie could undermine their way of life. If so, that's not exactly a testament to the strength of that way of life.
I doubt the movie theatre has any reasons other than financial. They are scared of boycotts, and other fiscally related detriments. Movie theatre owners probably wouldn't have any type of idealogical concerns with the movies they show. If so then you wouldn't see movies with a lot of violence or drug use in these theatres as well. Movie theatre owners are in the business in order to make money, not to protect people from certain viewpoints. If they felt that dedicating screen time to a certain movie wouldn;t be profitable its perfectly fine for them to decide not to show it.
Ask any theatre manager that decided to go ahead and screen The Last Temptation of Christ whether the boycotting and picketing was a detriment: they'll tell you, "Not at all!" Nothing guarantees a big turnout at a movie like controversy. Twice as many people as would attend if the movie had appeared quietly will show up just to see what the big fuss is about.
You're assuming that "Brokeback Mountain" has as big of a target audience in Utah as "The Last Temptation" had in other parts.
I am not saying that the controversy is what made them decide not to show it. In fact I have no idea why they decided not to show it. I'm only saying that it probably was financial. Boycotting is financial, picketing isn't. If they felt that people weren't going to pay to see the movie, then they really shouldn't waste the theatre space on it.
I'm not worried about the theater draw for this movie. I know it will win many awards and make acceptable numbers at the box office. What I can't wait to see is the numbers when they release the DVD. All too many people are afraid to be seen going into a movie like this. Just like Farenheit 9/11, those that succumb to the bullying of the narrow minded will just buy/rent it when it is released on disc.
It saddens me to hear this. I get why the theatre complied with the movie pull, but I, being straight, recognize that there's a lot of cinematic value to this work that will go by unreached. Further than that, when I reviewed the movie, I saw a Christian reviewer totally blast it, citing how the whole movie is destroyed by the immoral sexual conduct and how Jack's and Ennis' relationship really destroys the sanctity of their marriages.
That review generated a lot of controversy, primarily because it got people discussing the intersection between socially and religiously prohibited relationships. And not showing this film takes away another good opportunity to teach, to talk, and to relate to others. That's the real shame here.
Yes Dee: It is sad that most people are too fucking thickheaded to be able to watch a movie that might challenge their viewpoint a little. Like a poster before said: it just reveals the strength of their viewpoint if they think a movie could dismantle it.
It seems tolerance doesn't extend to rednecks.
Some businesses are closed on Sundays.
Some don't sell beer.
Some leave adult magazines to the competition.
Some theaters don't show NC-17 movies.
Some businesses require shirts & shoes for service.
Some internet forums don't allow minors.
Sure, why not.
Notice, of course, that the reasoning behind both incidents boils down to sex.
In Last Temptation (for those who haven't seen it) Jesus came down from the cross to make love to Mary of Magdala. People went bugnuts! Jesus never had sex! Boo!
How do we know he didn't? That's what I wanna know.
Myself, I thought the music was pretty fierce.
Since I'm the one who used "thickheaded" I'm guessing that was in reply to me. I meant the prospective audience that is too thickheaded to want to watch a movie that might challenege their views. I do not fault the theatre at all, they have a right to do what they want with their business.
banning a movie like this in Utah? That's a suprise here?
Wrongo! The man who owns this particular Utah theatre chain, and the Utah Jazz is a Mormon and obviously based this "business" decision on his personal faith.
No Mormon has ever sucked a cock you know.
So what you are saying is that simply because he is mormon he is incapable of having any type of motivation for anything he does except his faith? Thats a huge bit of prejudice, and I am not prepared to jump on that wagon with you.
By the way, if he is a mormon( and therefore incapable of separating his life from his faith) why did he ever even have a contract to screen the movie in the first place?
Maybe it wasn't the owner's personal faith that canned this movie, but the audiences faith. If your audience was overwhelmingly against homosexuality, would you think it was a wise business decision to screen a movie like this?
He is a Mormon.
And his company took it upon themselves to make the judgement about what is and isn't appropriate for the community at large.
You don't see a problem here?
If in fact they were wrong about what the community wanted, then they missed out on making money, and a business that misses out on too many opportunites like that won't last long.
Gayle Ruzicka, president of the conservative Utah Eagle Forum, said not showing the film set an example for the people of Utah." I just think (pulling the show) tells the young people especially that maybe there is something wrong with this show," she said.
What a bitch.
Seriously, I mean come on. How conservitive do you get? Mormans are the ones who believe in marrying more than one woman. But loving and marrying a man? IT IS THE SATAN PROJECT DESTINED TO BRING DOWN CHRIST!
Jeez, what a bunch of blockheads. Gay people are people just like anyone else. Get over it.
Well, it is a good movie, whatever they think of it. Now I just need to see it... :biggerGrin:
I guess that's how it's supposed to work in theory, but I don't think the market resolves social issues like this very well. For making that kind of change I have more faith in community action, although it doesn't have a perfect track record either.