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Is it time to say enough is enough and crack the whip on this shit or no?

Currently 47 out of 50 states grant exemptions from vaccinations for either religious reasons, or for religious or personal reasons.

The only states which don't allow any exemptions are California, West Virginia, and Mississippi (caveat is this is enforced through the public school system. I think home/private schoolers can still fly under the radar).

In my mind this is a public safety issue. Your rights end where mine begin and I don't want my younglings getting fucking measles or something because your ass is too stupid to get yours vaccinated.
 
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What if my own have weakened immune systems or heart defects, and they cannot get the appropriate vaccines? Also is it your goal to just be a troll cause that's how you come off. Oh. Sorry didn't mean to feed into your fun. I apologize to everyone.
 

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Given the right's love of religious exemptions to almost anything don't expect any improvement on the vaccination front.
And that's because the "right" are always good at flipping the script, changing the narrative, and/or doing an end around laws, regulations, codes of conduct, and even LOGIC, whenever THEY want to exempt themselves from the same expectations they want to hold everyone ELSE to.

Which is why opioids are a "crisis" instead of a "war," and why some get arrested when loved ones wander off, while others DON'T.

The very concept of "negligence" seems to have different meanings and parameters, depending...........
 
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What have you got to worry about if your own are vaccinated? Or are vaccines less effective than I've been led to believe?

You can't be given all vaccinations at birth. They're on an age-based schedule. That period of time between birth and when you're eligible to be vaccinated you're vulnerable to those illnesses.

When vax rates are where they're supposed to be, that's not an issue, because those diseases are effectively eradicated.

But with vax rates where they are now because of all this misinformation, those diseases can show up in the community and your infants are at risk of contracting it.

I have one at home who is not yet old enough for measles vaccine. Others' idiocy affects our family.
 

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This evolved over the last 10-15 years. Previously, schools always required proper vaccinations, and everyone willingly complied. There was a time it was a requirement that a parents needed to confirm their children’s vaccinations were up to date at the start of the school year. You can thank liberals for eroding / changing the laws to not force parents to get their kids vaccinated.

Own it.
 

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What if my own have weakened immune systems or heart defects, and they cannot get the appropriate vaccines? Also is it your goal to just be a troll cause that's how you come off. Oh. Sorry didn't mean to feed into your fun. I apologize to everyone.

So it's "trolling" to ask critical questions? I suppose that shouldn't surprise me, given the forum I'm posting on.
 

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Which is why opioids are a "crisis" instead of a "war," and why some get arrested when loved ones wander off, while others DON'T.

Or maybe it has something to do with the opioid crisis being driven by the establishment, whereas the war on drugs is actually targeting a phenomenon that originates in criminal activity (drug dealers, smugglers, etc). You expect the government to wage war on doctors?
 

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Or maybe it has something to do with the opioid crisis being driven by the establishment, whereas the war on drugs is actually targeting a phenomenon that originates in criminal activity (drug dealers, smugglers, etc). You expect the government to wage war on doctors?
Or maybe it has something to do with the opioid crisis being driven by the establishment, whereas the war on drugs is actually targeting a phenomenon that originates in criminal activity (drug dealers, smugglers, etc). You expect the government to wage war on doctors?
I expect government and people in general to have an EQUAL understanding/empathy re. ADDICTION, regardless of the particulars of the victims, the substance, OR the "dealer."

Is THAT clear enough for you?

 
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Or maybe it has something to do with the opioid crisis being driven by the establishment, whereas the war on drugs is actually targeting a phenomenon that originates in criminal activity (drug dealers, smugglers, etc). You expect the government to wage war on doctors?

Heroin is an opiod, it gets "smuggled" into the country, it then gets sold by "drug dealers"

That sounds like "criminal activity" to me.

"Doctors who run "pill mills" or otherwise prescribe Oxy at the drop of hat yes I expect the government to "wage war" on them.
 

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This evolved over the last 10-15 years. Previously, schools always required proper vaccinations, and everyone willingly complied. There was a time it was a requirement that a parents needed to confirm their children’s vaccinations were up to date at the start of the school year. You can thank liberals for eroding / changing the laws to not force parents to get their kids vaccinated.

Own it.
I just noticed this post and all I can say is what a load of crap. Yet another example of how the right tries to change the narrative.

No, in fact the anti-vaxxer movement has a long history, and the CURRENT one in the U.S. is founded upon faulty (and some say fraudulent) data and research that has since been debunked, but has NONETHELESS been taken up as "truth" by MOSTLY conservatives, including right winged political action groups, people like Sarah Palin and Jenny McCarthy, and other right winged types given to conspiracy theories.