sorry for the vague, anonymous new person question, but I've had a serious question or two that I've been stewing on for a while, and my fiancee and I found this place a while back and it seemed like the best place to ask such a question. I got the idea in my head at some point, that if a woman's vagina was exercised/trained/worked out/ect with larger toys and stretching towards fisting, that sort of things, and she did kegels and such, that over time it would result in not only being able to take more, but ALSO that it would make her able to seem tighter (when she wanted to) as well. the logic behind it being something to the effect of being that all the training and such would give her better control over the muscles in general and that sort of thing. has anyone heard of this idea, or have experience to support or refute this theory? I've come to be pretty good with my large, dexterous hands, and we've experimented with squeezing more fingers, using toys, ect into her, which she enjoys greatly. now, each time we've had a session where we got to the larger degree of things, we've been able to get a little more, and/or a little more readily, but we've not gotten to being able to get my whole hand. at first we weren't sure it would *ever* be possible from bones and such getting in the way (she has not had a child, and will not, as she had to have a partial hysterectomy) but after a few times we've been getting noticably closer... SO, a time or two ago of getting like 4 fingers in and using a 2" thick(diameter) toy, after a few days of recovery(it was a hell of a session... lol, wiped us both out completely for like 2 days) she was noticably, and very pleasantly tighter than "usual". this supports the original "theory", but i am not sure if thats normal or the anomaly, as other times, while after a few days she was not noticably less-tight than before, it hasn't been as distinctively tighter after recovery on a consistent basis. in the long run we(yes, both of us) would like to be able to train her to at will, open up and relax for playing with larger things/more fingers/ect, OR tighten up and be extra tight for regular sex or other "scene"-y things. she enjoys both the experience of her limits being pushed with occasional (maybe once every 2 or 3 weeks I'd guess) larger toys and such, AND with feeling like I'm huge in her. so such training would be beneficial for both of us. is that goal/ideal end result, possible? would using a weighted kegel exerciser be beneficial for this? anyone had any experience with vaginal training in such a way? I realize that the vagina is very elastic, and can recover very well... but short of something severely traumatic like childbirth, what if any limit is there to its recovery? could larger things be done for a few days in a row, keeping it stretched out and loosened up, and then give a few days (or a week?) break and kegels-ing and snap back to be like new(well, or enough to be enjoyably tight) again? (the experience of sex when shes opened up like that is enjoyable once in a while to me, but kinda a "nice place to visit, but would rather not live there" sorta thing) I'm large enough to qualify to use this site anyway, so as long as she can recover back to being enjoyably tight within a week or two, then thats ok... I don't need her to be able to clamp down like a vice on my pinky finger or anything... this is probably a silly concern, in reality. but reassurance, and any thoughts on the thing of learning to have control to deliberately go in both directions to an extent, would be helpful. gotta love internet anonymity... but this is a serious question. oh and if it has any relevance... my Penis is ~8"long and something in the area of 6" circumfrence at the largest part, at full mast. (thicker than a toilet paper tube) and my hand... well it takes some doing, and it distorts the shape of a pringles can to get my whole hand in it.