vaginal tear

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  1. deepwader

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    I have recently represented a client accused of rape. He claimed the girl concerned consented to sex and indeed chased him down!

    The evidence from the medical exam is that she had a "superficial, 5mm. tear to the posterior fourchette of the vagina" 5mm is just under a quarter of an inch; I understand "posterior fourchette" to mean the point of the opening of the vagina, nearest the anus.

    The doctor's evidence was that this was consistent with forcible penetration or consensual but "rough" sex.

    The Defendant had given an account to the police of being very gentle throughout, so the medical evidence was against him.

    He told me in conference that he has a very large penis: he claimed over 9 inches in length and used his wrist to demonstrate its approximate girth. He suggested this caused the tear. I didn't think it was quite ethical to ask him to whip it out in the cells and show me and it was a point I was uneasy about putting in evidence. The girl was 4'6" tall and very thin - 85 lbs. in weight. He described difficulty in getting into her: although she was very wet and he had fingered her to open her up, she was still very tight. He admitted she winced when he entered her but said she had otherwise enjoyed the sex (which both agreed lasted half an hour), held onto his buttocks and urged him to thrust deeper. He also says she knew what she was going to get because she had felt him up in a night club earlier that night, had commented on the size of his cock and said she wanted it.

    The case is over now and he was found not guilty: there were other aspects of her evidence which were somewhat implausible. But the fact that she invented some details to beef up her story does not mean the central allegation was necessarily untrue.

    I would welcome comments on these questions:

    (1) IN your experience, can a tear like this happen simply because the man has a very large penis, and the woman is small -- even with gentle as opposed to rough sex?

    (2) If a tear like that occurs, is it painful only at the point when the tear happens or does it make enjoying the sesx immediately aftet the tear occurs, impossible? That was the prosecution's contention: with a tear like that, she would have been in pain and couldn't possibly have enjoyed/wanted to be fucked.

    Incidentally, HE was only 5' tall, and slightly built -- so I am sure it would have been quite a sight!

    GENUINE information please - not fantasy!
     
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    Many years ago a man used the same defense. At the trial the defense produced a dildo (this was before the proliferation of the "clone your willy" products.) I don't remember the outcome but I think he was exonerated. On another note, one of the main themes in gay porn is when a guy screams and winces when he is penetrated only to "adjust" to the size of the monster and begin screaming for more. My personal experience is if it hurts like hell upon entry the only thing to do is pull out and try again with more lube.
     
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    thanks for that... but I think i have enough experience of cocks up arses not to need to ask about it. But I am not big enough to trouble, inordinately, the comparatively few women I've had sex with!

    Answers from women would be of more help.
     
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    even with my cock covered in lube, my girlfriend gets tears on the
    posterior fourchette as well as hemroids.:eek:

    lube makes a difference but not much,i think being circumcised makes
    it even worse.
    (oops,sorry,i just noticed you were specifically looking for womens answers)
     
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    im very large myself, in both length and girth, and i have torn women before. some have had me stop and others have had me continue.
     
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    it can happen AFTER penetration as well if the girth is pretty substantial and the movements of either participant are too erratic too early
    I"m glad he was cleared tho it sounds quite weak
    tho not all evidence was disclosed, through no fault of the O posters, that woudl be to odamned much to read anyway
     
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    YES! I am not that small, but my husband is large, and this still happens to me frequently during normal (not rough) sex.

    When it happens to me, I frequently don't even notice it until after when I go to the bathroom. Sometimes it will sting while we're still having sex, but not so much to make me want to stop if I'm enjoying it. It is definitely unpleasant for a day or so after though.

    Hope that helps!

    .e
     
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    Yeah same here... i've torn my girlfriend (and x-es) a coupl'a times, with just regular sex (maybe a little on the rough side at times)... and she's not that small really.

    I'm 8.5" x 5.5" accurately.
     
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    Oh, I guess I should have been more specific... my husband is 7x6.
     
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    Thanks for the responses - it's helpful to have what we put to the jury confirmed. It was a somewhat surreal sitiuation with the male prosecutor suggesting that intercourse would have been unbrearably painful after the tear, and my asserting the reverse, when neither of us could possibly be speaking from experience :)

    As for rapists with condoms - I don't see why this is surprising. The incident took place in a house where the accused was occupying a bedroom, (he was staying with a friend for the week.) and the girl came back to the house after an evening at a club. The sole issue was consent: she said she was up for a kiss and a cuddle, but nothing more, and he forced sex on her. That - with variations - is how the typical allegation of rape arises: "stranger rape" - men dragging women off the streets - is extremely rare. And the man who SETS OUT to rape typically DOES use a condom: if identification is going to be an issue, he does not want to leave a sample behind for the lab!
     
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    Hi, This seems the best place for this question, although I don't actually wanna be invloved in the 'Rape questions...'

    I aint that massive maybe 7", 4" thick circumfrance probly, but my missus gets sore after like 2 minutes, and after longer she ends up really sore and stinging for days, sometimes she even has a small bit blood after sex, it's very sad and fraustrating for the both of us and has only really occured after she had been 'cut' giving birth to our first child, nearly 4 years ago and has steaderly got worse. She has seeked help but every doctor says different things, they have even suggested getting 'recut' but that seems an extreme messure...

    Any advice would be much appreciated.
     
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    She claimed he was raping her for an entire half-hour? Is that common with these date-rape type scenarios? I'm obviously unfamiliar with the case, but this seems strange.
     
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    I am a small gal down there and my husband is 7 inches in girth. Tearing used to be a regular part of entry. It was very uncomfortable, but i was willing to go on and have sex no matter how bad it hurt. Sometimes it would be a small tear that only bled a little and other times it didnt seem to hurt bad at all but there was a lot of blood. I was always aware when i tore because it stings like a papercut, lube and any friction pressed up against it irritates it. It did heal quickly though. The only way we prevent this from happening now is to have sex a lot more than we used to, to keep me from getting really tight again inbetween sessions. Sessions? I sound like a dominatrix now.
     
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    YES, i have had tears from doing it ROUGH with a man that was about 8 and a half inches,, one time was where i had an episiotomy from childbirth,, doggie style, several from doing it rough when we first met, cuz it was kinda big for me, until i got used to it, so it can definitly happen for sure!
     
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    i was guilty of this when i was in highschool.i would just go berzerk inside of a woman and just pound away.on top of that i have really good stamina(i edge myself forever inside of a woman,it's the best place on earth)if i didn't see the woman's face(doggystyle,reverse cowgirl)i especially couldn't tell if i was hurting her.they would tell me that it was hard to breathe when i would go that deep.i would go all out.but as i got older and became a better lover,i learned that how i use my dick is what it's all about.
     
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    OK - conclusions I am drawing from this:

    (1) Vaginal tears CAN be a result of relative sizes of vagina and penis, not just of rough sex

    (2) A tear is painful when it happens, but intercourse therefater is not necessarily unbearably painful or without pleausure.

    Yes?
     
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