Valerie Plame to Testify Friday

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To borrow an acquaintance's famous (if not infamous) word:

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........and all that has exactly what to do with that slug Wilson and the fact that he conducted a despicable public smear campaign against the President of th eUnited States in order to undermine him during a time of war?

How is telling the truth about the administration illegally outing his wife's covert status and endangering all of her contacts (not to mention endangering the nation as a whole because of lost intelligence contacts) a "smear campaign"?

How is telling the truth about the Niger forgeries a "smear campaign"?

Only in the extreme right-wing Republican mind is the truth a "smear campaign".
 

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It doesn't matter any longer if we're told things that aren't necessarily "true", because separating out what we believe as a human being from what our leaders are telling us gets too confusing. There are a lot of people now who feel that disagreeing with this president is like disbelief in God. It's really sickening.
Zora, there you go again. Haven't you learned by now that Bush is God?

The real truth is that the "God and Country" propaganda has worked with the Republican base. America is God's favored country. And Bush was selected by God in the "noble" cause.

Of course you and I know this is horse shit through and through.
 

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BTW, does anybody know if Valerie Plame donated to Kerry' s campaign.

Also, did you know..

"They all knew that I worked with the CIA," Plame said. "They might not have known what my status was but that alone—the fact that I worked for the CIA—should have put up a red flag."
Wilson has written a book, and Plame is working on one, "Fair Game," although it has had a troubled history. In May 2006, the Crown Publishing Group announced it would publish her book, a deal reportedly worth seven figures. But the two sides could not agree on a final contract, and two months later an agreement was announced with Simon & Schuster. "


Hmmm. So she's in it for the money. GRRRRRRRRRR.
 

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How is telling the truth about the Niger forgeries a "smear campaign"?
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Beacuse the CIA , based on his report, thought the Iraq-Niger deal was MORE likely , not less likely.
If he had a problem with that ,he should have complained to his bosses at the CIA.
The Iraq - Niger deal was meaningless in the decsion to invade Iraq and Bush uttered those 16 words in good faith as been proved time and again.
Read the Butler report.

Wilson, a partisan Democrat, served NO purpose in that op-ed piece but to undermine Bush.
 

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How is telling the truth about the Niger forgeries a "smear campaign"?
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Beacuse the CIA , based on his report, thought the Iraq-Niger deal was MORE likely , not less likely.
If he had a problem with that ,he should have complained to his bosses at the CIA.
The Iraq - Niger deal was meaningless in the decsion to invade Iraq and Bush uttered those 16 words in good faith as been proved time and again.
Read the Butler report.

Wilson, a partisan Democrat, served NO purpose in that op-ed piece but to undermine Bush.

His "bosses" at the CIA??? HE DIDN'T WORK FOR THE CIA. They weren't his bosses.

BTW, the CIA told Bush and his speechwriters to leave those words out of the speech, you knew that right?

BBC NEWS | Americas | White House 'warned over Iraq claim'

"Now the CIA official has told the BBC that Mr Wilson's findings had been passed onto the White House as early as March 2002.

That means that the administration would have known nearly a year before the State of the Union address that the information was likely false."

A Question of Trust | TIME

"The line—"The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa"—wasn't the Bush team's strongest evidence for the case that Saddam wanted nuclear weapons. It was just the most controversial, since most government experts familiar with the statement believed it to be unsupportable."

And, if you'll forgive me for using Truthout as a source since The Washington Post apparently has purged the file from their online archives, I'll quote the Post from 7/11/2003:

t r u t h o u t - CIA Warned British Not to Use Niger Evidence

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] "At that time, the CIA was completing its own classified national intelligence estimate on Iraq's chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programs. Although the CIA paper mentioned alleged Iraqi attempts to buy uranium from three African countries, it warned that State Department analysts were questioning its accuracy when it came to Niger and that CIA personnel considered reports on other African countries to be "sketchy," the official said. The CIA paper's summary conclusions about whether Iraq was restarting its nuclear weapons program did not include references to Iraqi attempts to buy uranium in Africa."

let's continue:

[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]" But CBS News National Security Correspondent David Martin reports that before the State of the Union speech was delivered, CIA officials warned members of the president's National Security Council staff that the intelligence was not good enough to make the flat statement Iraq tried to buy uranium from Africa.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] According to sources, White House officials responded that a September dossier issued by the British government contained the unequivocal assertion: "Iraq has.sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] As long as the statement was attributed to British intelligence, the White House officials argued, it would be factually accurate. The CIA officials dropped their objections."[/FONT]


So tell me, why do you keep making stuff up to substantiate your non-existent position?

Wilsons purpose was to TELL THE TRUTH. A concept you and your ilk are apparently incapable of comprehending.
 

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BTW, the CIA told Bush and his speechwriters to leave those words out of the speech, you knew that right?
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Complete. Total. Lie

The speech, including the meaningless 16 words , was run by the CIA.
the Cia cleared it. Despite waht some aleged CIA official alleged ly told somebody allegedly at the White House. This is a FACT. Your contention otherwise is just a FLAT-OUT LIE

The English stood by the claim. The Butler report concluded that the the [meaningless] words in the SOTU were well-founded. This is also a FACT.
So , now, WHO IS THE LIAR again????
 

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BTW, the CIA told Bush and his speechwriters to leave those words out of the speech, you knew that right?
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Complete. Total. Lie

The speech, including the meaningless 16 words , was run by the CIA.
the Cia cleared it. Despite waht some aleged CIA official alleged ly told somebody allegedly at the White House. This is a FACT. Your contention otherwise is just a FLAT-OUT LIE

The English stood by the claim. The Butler report concluded that the the [meaningless] words in the SOTU were well-founded. This is also a FACT.
So , now, WHO IS THE LIAR again????

Awwww, isn't that cute, I provide sources, you simply spew nonsense.

Typical of the far right.

So far, you've insulted everyone here who called you on your BS, not provided a single logical, accurate, or coherent answer to any questions asked of you, misrepresented facts, told outright lies, and provided nothing whatsoever to accurately prove your case. . . George Bush, is that you?
 

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He has not yet directly answered any of my direct questions. You aren't alone.
Hmmm.

BTW, does anybody know if Valerie Plame donated to Kerry' s campaign.
No, I don't; do you? If she did, that explains the rightist smear campaign against her and her husband by Bush, a partisan Republican, and his advisors, partisan Republicans.
Hmmm. So she's in it for the money. GRRRRRRRRRR.
It's a good thing that no rightist partisan Republicans have EVER been "in it for the money."
Wilson, a partisan Democrat, served NO purpose in that op-ed piece but to undermine Bush, a partisan Republican.
You are right, as always.
 

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Awwww, isn't that cute, I provide sources, you simply spew nonsense.

Typical of the far right.

So far, you've insulted everyone here who called you on your BS, not provided a single logical, accurate, or coherent answer to any questions asked of you, misrepresented facts, told outright lies, and provided nothing whatsoever to accurately prove your case. . . George Bush, is that you?


Haha, we're debating someone with a comprehension level of about second grade. How smart does that make any of us?:biggrin1:

You post sources, he responds with "nuh-uh". Very compelling.
 

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Awwww, isn't that cute, I provide sources, you simply spew nonsense.

Typical of the far right.

So far, you've insulted everyone here who called you on your BS, not provided a single logical, accurate, or coherent answer to any questions asked of you, misrepresented facts, told outright lies, and provided nothing whatsoever to accurately prove your case. . . George Bush, is that you?
Nope, it's not george, it's Ann. I thought you knew that by now.
 

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Haha, we're debating someone with a comprehension level of about second grade. How smart does that make any of us?:biggrin1:

You post sources, he responds with "nuh-uh". Very compelling.


Sad isn't it? Fortunately, the percentage of people in this country who share his IQ (which unsurprisingly is a smaller number than the size of his penis) is dwindling.

The majority of the nation has snapped back to reality, there will always be a few . . . how did Rumsfeld put it . . . dead-enders that think their fearless leader can do no wrong.
 

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And, if you'll forgive me for using Truthout as a source since The Washington Post apparently has purged the file from their online archives, I'll quote the Post from 7/11/2003:

t r u t h o u t - CIA Warned British Not to Use Niger Evidence


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Pardon me while I point at you and laugh.
Truthout. sheesh.

Whateve r the CIA said they did about the meaningless 16 word < have I mentioned that fact that the 16 words were meaningless> , The CIA in this country cleared the speech.

The Britissh said the meaningless words were well founded.

So stop lying about it will ya?
 

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Pardon me while I point at you and laugh.
Truthout. sheesh.

Whateve r the CIA said they did about the meaningless 16 word < have I mentioned that fact that the 16 words were meaningless> , The CIA in this country cleared the speech.

The Britissh said the meaningless words were well founded.

So stop lying about it will ya?

Are you really that dim?

If you had half an iota of intelligence, you'd realize that the quote was from THE WASHINGTON POST, from a complete re-post of the article hosted by Truthout.

You've once again proven that not only can you not read, you have no interest whatsoever in the TRUTH.

Seriously, can you read, or are you blinded by the right?
 

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Pardon me while I point at you and laugh.
Truthout. sheesh.

But did you READ it, or just reject it because of where it was posted? He gave a reasonable explaination for the source.

Whateve r the CIA said they did about the meaningless 16 word < have I mentioned that fact that the 16 words were meaningless> , The CIA in this country cleared the speech.

Apparently, by their own admission, they cleared it WITHOUT the "16 meaningless words". Did you get that point?

The Britissh said the meaningless words were well founded.

So stop lying about it will ya?

Post a source, or we'll assume YOU are the only one lying. Your fervent belief does not equal a fact.

Seriously, are you 12? Why won't you answer me?
 

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Are you really that dim?

If you had half an iota of intelligence, you'd realize that the quote was from THE WASHINGTON POST, from a complete re-post of the article hosted by Truthout.

You've once again proven that not only can you not read, you have no interest whatsoever in the TRUTH.

Seriously, can you read, or are you blinded by the right?
Oh, come on now, don't you know that The Washington Post is nothing more than a LW blog? We've never forgiven them for publishing that leftist hogwash that they made up about Nixon. We all know that Mark Felt (aka Deep Throat) was a partisan Democrat, whose only motivation was to undermine the Commander in Chief.