Varieties of Vaginal Orgasms? How do you know which one you're having?

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stud_hunter said:
The few cervical orgasms I've had have been from deep penetration.
I have done it this way too, by pushing my cock in all the way and wedging it in to the right spot (epicenter), with small movements (while clenching my buttocks to make my cock its hardest) I was able to bring on an orgasm.
 

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Segasaurus, there are things that you can do to become more orgasmic,

- Exercising your vaginal muscles with a vibrating egg. Insert it and try and move it in and out just by using the muscles down there. Turning on the vibrations will eventually desensitize and make you less responsive to a guy giving you pleasure so keep it for the moments when you really need it.

- Squeezing your vaginal muscles during love making. This presses all your nerve ending against to penis and like a guy who suffers from premature ejaculation, being tensed up can accelerate the orgasm build up. It will also feel great for your lover but will make him come fast so watch his reactions.

- You can buy Chinese herbal teas which are supposed to make women more responsive during lovemaking. They improve the circulation around the vagina which improves the sensitivity.
1_ Thank you. Yes, I'm already doing Stone Egg exercises and have been for several months. I use Nectar Product's Black Jaspar stone egg. I bought Mantak Chia's book Cultivating Female Sexual Energy as it has several different stone egg exercises. Have not even heard of vibrating eggs! Can someone provide a link to one?

I combine the stone egg exercises with Gyneflex as it reaches the mid and back muscles the latter doesn't. I've noticed as I tone up flexing those muscles is pleasurable. I'm just not even close to being toned enough like Zaneblue that squeezing alone brings on multiple orgasms.

According to a research paper I read at a medical site (forget which one damn it or I would provide you all the source) women in the study who had vaginal orgasms always had significantly measurable superior muscle tone to those who didn't. And the strength and number of the orgasms even among the vaginally orgasmic was further directly correllated to how toned they were. I.E. the more vaginal orgasms per session the more highly toned their muscles.

The vaginally orgasmic women in the study also exhibited quite high levels of free testosterone in their bloodstream (relative to what's considered typical for women) and also had quite superior bloodflow to the mid and back vaginal muscles compared to the non-vaginally orgasmic women.

This backs up what I always heard Zaneblue say. All 3 have to be in synch - highly superior muscle tone, high levels of free testosterone balanced correctly with other certain neurotransmitters and excellent bloodflow to all areas of the vaginal muscles. Any one that is out of whack (according to research) and it becomes progressively more difficult for a woman to be vaginally orgasmic no matter how hung a guy is and no matter whether he's hitting the vaginal hot zones or not. The typical American diet (fast food, transfats, caffeinated drinks, excessive corn glucose, etc) is not kind to non-orgasmic women seeking to become vaginally orgasmic. Caffeine, transfats and many common over-the-counter and prescribed medications in particular can sabotage a woman's hormone balance.

2. I will try the squeezing during lovemaking..uh..whenever the hell that's gonna be next. At this point I have no idea when that's gonna be. *shrug*

3. Did not know about the Chinese herbal teas. Thanks for the info. I'll be sure to look into it.
 

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Segasaurus said:
Have not even heard of vibrating eggs! Can someone provide a link to one?

2. I will try the squeezing during lovemaking..uh..whenever the hell that's gonna be next. At this point I have no idea when that's gonna be. *shrug*

3. Did not know about the Chinese herbal teas. Thanks for the info. I'll be sure to look into it.

I'm happy to help you Segasaurus.

http://www.adameve.com/vibrators/vibrator-eggs-bullets-c-22.aspx

I know how you feel about the second point *sigh*

http://www.amazingherbs.com/blacseedfeme.html - women's energy tea
http://www.herbalremedies.com/femalejoy.html - same as above
http://www.herbalshop.com/products/romancetonic.html - sexual enhancer
 

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Riven650 said:
We think this stuff about these different types of female orgasm is very interesting, but we're worried that you can easily get hung up on the technical and lose sight of (and miss out on) the spontaneous and natural side of love making. It's just like guys obsessing about comparing penis sizes when they really would be better off just getting on and enjoying the fun you can have with your penis - whatever size or shape it is. Or how many different and therefore separately catagoriasable types of orgasm you can have..... Are you listening Segasaurus ? :tongue:
Hi Riven :wavey:

Don't worry I'll miss out on enjoying sex. Hell, I'm not having any so there's nothing to get the chance to be hung up on at the moment.

But I would like to become vaginally orgasmic so I'm trying to learn as much as I can about them and try to remove any roadblocks or obstacles I may unintentionally be doing to hinder that goal.

OK. I won't deny if I never attain it I won't be disappointed. I will be. A LOT. I confess I feel envy reading the posts from all the LPSG women or other places on the web I lurk when they talk of these massive mind-blowing, drops-me-to-my-fucking-knees multiple orgasms and I've never even had ONE. If I am doing something unintentionally to inhibit it whether it's due to poor muscle tone, suboptimal diet, medications or something else I'm going to try to remove the roadblocks.

I wish I could afford tests to see what my free testosterone, dopamine and other neurotransmitter levels are. I'm busy looking for work and a lot of the jobs out there these days don't offer medical insurance. It's gonna take a while saving up to be able to afford those tests. When I looked into it a test for certain hormones important to sexual function and libido cost several hundred dollars to run.

It's taken me 2 years to finally consistantly find my G-spot. It's taken me even longer to find that spot deeper in the back. But everytime I think I'm close to something happening my hands and fingers go completely numb. It takes a long time to get any peaking sensation to build and my hands just can't take it. Usually 30-45 minutes or more. And for me it must be a forceful and sustained. No stopping even for a few seconds or I lose the peaking sensation and it takes another 15-30 minutes to build it back up.

The guy I like freaked when I told him that. He didn't enjoy hearing that 30-45 minute range. I don't blame him. I don't know of any guy who can last that long during physical penetration without needing to stop, change positions, alter their angle, technique or whatnot to last longer. But stopping would be enough for me to lose whatever had been built up previously.

I asked my question because I don't know what a vaginal orgasm feels like. All I keep reading over and over and over across the web in every woman's forum I'm registered to is how vaginal orgasms are typically preferred over clitoral ones by the women who have both (if asked to choose) - especially when it's multiple. Hell, at this point I would be grateful for just ONE vaginal orgasm whether it be g-spot, CDS, Epicenter or anything else.
 

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Segasaurus said:
The guy I like freaked when I told him that. He didn't enjoy hearing that 30-45 minute range. I don't blame him. I don't know of any guy who can last that long during physical penetration without needing to stop, change positions, alter their angle, technique or whatnot to last longer. But stopping would be enough for me to lose whatever had been built up previously.
You sound like a challenge, most men like a challenge.
Orgasmic women make it too easy for guys.

Can you orgasm quickly by rubbing your clit?

If yes, you could try "edging" - stopping the stimulation just before you come 5 or more times.
Guys who do this get extra hard and enjoy an intense orgasm.
In women a similar thing happens inside the vagina, the g-spot area becomes blood engorged and swells, making the vagina tighter.
You reach a higher state of excitement and are more likely to get on orgasm with penetration because of the increased contact between the G-spot or AFE zone and the penis.
 

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dongalong said:
Can you orgasm quickly by rubbing your clit?
Not nearly as quickly as when I was younger (I'm 39) but I can have clitoral orgasms. At least it doesn't take 30 minutes for those. More like 5.
 

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dongalong said:
It sounds like that special spot you found is called the "AFE zone" -Anterior Fornix Erogenous zone which has only recently been discovered by a doctor in Kuala Lumpur.

It is a rough "zone" on the anal (opposite to g-spot) side of the vagina, that is full of nerve endings. This zone is stimulated by friction whereas the g-spot by pressure. (Google it to find out more detail) When you stimulate it anally I think that pressing the zone from behind will give you pleasure because it will rub against the opposite side of the vagina and maybe even the cervix causing friction.

Before I discovered what it was, I had noticed that certain positions gave intense pleasure and orgasms to my lovers without any clit or g-spot and epicenter contact. (e.g. Doggy style)

Wait! Are you saying AFE-zone and Epicenter orgasms are two different things? :confused:

Because all the research I'm getting from the web and books say they are the exact same thing.
 

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Wow, Segasaurus! You are determined and you seem to have done your research! I've learned some things from your posts for sure. And I'll say I wish you luck, and it will be highly worth it! Let me say this, though. It seems you're a little stressed about your quest for a vaginal orgasm. I certainly think it's a good, worthy quest, but if possible try to relax a bit because I know that will help you. Let me also say I've heard it's fairly common for women to become more orgasmic as we get older. I was in my late 20s when I had my first g-spot orgasm, and throughout my 30s it's become easier and easier. I'm 38 now and I can have many multiples in the right situation.
Again, good luck to you!
 

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Segasaurus said:
Wait! Are you saying AFE-zone and Epicenter orgasms are two different things? :confused:

Because all the research I'm getting from the web and books say they are the exact same thing.
http://www.penissizedebate.com/page17_female-orgasm.htm

From my experience the positions of all the orgasm triggers in the image are quite correct.
I have no idea what kind of orgasm the AFE zone gives, but because it gives multiple orgasms it is probably similar to g-spot orgasms. I discovered it "in between girlfriends" so I haven't explored it well enough yet. !!

Can't wait though, I love seeing my partners in fits of ecstacy!!
 

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:biggthumpup:

Thumbs up for Segasaurus .

As a male , I can only wonder and marvel at the thought of having different kinds of orgasms .
Orgasms that originate in different areas, and, I assume, different intensities and responses by your bodies ( females ) , and the experience of feeling such variety boggles my mind.
I can say, men only have one kind of orgasm. We can delay it, prolong it, but, that is as far as it would go.

What a treat! to have a woman that would have all this info in mind, and, what a challenge to go after her special spots and shudder together.
 

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Pichulon did you see my thread about best male orgasms? There is more variety than I thought for us guys!

Women deserve all the pleasure that there bodies can give, it is a small consolation for all the suffering from period cramps and child birth that they go through.
 

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Hello segasaurus,
I think stud-hunter is giving you some good advice (above). I do think you should bear in mind that there is a lot of exaggeration about. Those posts that make you envious, you know, the ones about women experiencing exotic and interesting sounding orgasms. I think you should take them with a pinch of salt, just like we have to take the size and experience claims of a lot of guys around here.

stud_hunter and I are simply saying you will be more likely to achieve sexual satisfaction and happiness if you take the pressure off yourself and your lovers. We're just alarmed that you are so obsessive about these orgasm goals, and we are trying to encourage you to think about sex as an enjoyable activity in it's self, rather than as a means to an end.

You have said several times things like '............Hell, I'm not having any'..........., and '........... whenever the hell that's gonna be next. At this point I have no idea when that's gonna be. *shrug* .............' That sounds a lot like a girl who would like someone nice to give her a good seeing-to. Please be careful not to frighten off that someone nice each time by allowing your obsession to take you over. After all, there's got to be something in it for him.
:smile:
 

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Riven650 said:
Hello segasaurus,
I think stud-hunter is giving you some good advice (above). I do think you should bear in mind that there is a lot of exaggeration about. Those posts that make you envious, you know, the ones about women experiencing exotic and interesting sounding orgasms. I think you should take them with a pinch of salt, just like we have to take the size and experience claims of a lot of guys around here.

stud_hunter and I are simply saying you will be more likely to achieve sexual satisfaction and happiness if you take the pressure off yourself and your lovers. We're just alarmed that you are so obsessive about these orgasm goals, and we are trying to encourage you to think about sex as an enjoyable activity in it's self, rather than as a means to an end.
:smile:

Yes, I'm saying it's easier to have great orgasms when you're relaxed. And Segasaurus, it does seem you feel a sense of urgency about it, which is probably holding you back. At the same time, while it's good to think of sex as enjoyable in itself, I speak from personal experience that orgasms make it so much more incredible. Yes, be patient and remember there's no deadline. But at the same time, don't let people tell you you shouldn't be striving for those powerful, "exotic and interesting" orgasms. They do exist, and you deserve them!
 

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stud_hunter, could you tell us what is going through your mind during the build up to an orgasm.

Do you think of something unrelated or related to the guy you are with that really turns you on?

Are you concentrating on the pleasure from the direct hits or girth stretches that you are receiving?

Could those women that find orgasms hard to come by be focusing on the wrong subject?

The mind is the ultimate orgasm trigger and is one that can't be stimulated manually.
 

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dongalong said:
Pichulon did you see my thread about best male orgasms? There is more variety than I thought for us guys!

Women deserve all the pleasure that there bodies can give, it is a small consolation for all the suffering from period cramps and child birth that they go through.

Dongalong...I did not see it, do you have the link???
That is interesting.
 

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dongalong said:
stud_hunter, could you tell us what is going through your mind during the build up to an orgasm.
Do you think of something unrelated or related to the guy you are with that really turns you on?
Are you concentrating on the pleasure from the direct hits or girth stretches that you are receiving?
Could those women that find orgasms hard to come by be focusing on the wrong subject?
The mind is the ultimate orgasm trigger and is one that can't be stimulated manually.

Indeed the mind is the ultimate sex organ! We often forget that an orgasm is a reflex that happens when you get so turned on you hit a limit and need to release. When a guy is doing me right, hitting the right spots, etc., it feels great and I get closer to orgasm. But the more I'm turned on mentally the less distance we have to travel physically!
So yeah, what you do with your mind has a lot to do with how easy it is to cum. When I'm having sex I like to think about what's going on right here right now. It really depends on my mood. Sometimes I'm thinking about how hot it is what we're doing, or focusing on how close we are. Sometimes I just try to get totally focused on the sensations. As I've approached middle age and gotten more comfortable with my body and sexuality, I've gotten a lot more comfortable being a glutton! Now I often get totally focused on the sensations, getting closer to orgasm, "direct hits" etc. But when I was younger I think my body wasn't as well trained to orgasm, and thinking too much about cumming would actually make it harder. So I know how you feel, Segasaurus!
Oh, and one more thought. I think a big reason it's become easier for me to orgasm is what I said about getting comfortable being a glutton. It seems men are allowed to be lusty a lot more than women are. I think at some point I just accepted that I want what I want sexually and I deserve to have it. I think for some women there's a lot of guilt that goes into being lusty. Especially younger women which might be why they have a harder time cumming? Just a thought.