madame_zora said:
'Random thoughts' it is then:
In light of the above referenced quote, I'll offer you this:
The 'existence' of said homophobia is better judged by me than you MZ since I'm the homo. I'd not have the audacity to suggest I know BBS or Onslow's experience better than they do themselves. See the difference?
I understand perfectly well how others feel. I include myself in Shelby's sentiments that we disempower ourselves all of us when we perceive ourselves as some mainline individual's stereotype. That's why I'm not much posting now since I'm sitting back and watching the preposterousness to which some will go to invent group bias. Oddly, to you, Bronxy isn't 'SUPERsensitive' to racism. Yet I'm 'SUPERsensitve' to homophobia. :33: Imagine that.
After all it is indiviual specific.
And as for the 'instantly defensive' reference it was but twice. And again, I've handled both instances amicably and in both cases I'm in private pm with those in question and I count both individuals on board as friends now. Fairly telling I'd say, that. Don't you think it odd that these two individual's have a friendly relationship with me in pm where you do not? If only once you'd preach from something other than your soapbox. Perhaps preaching from your heart would make you appear less malcontented.
Zora- you are very selective in who you "nail" and who you let ride given your own personal history with that individual. Since you and I got off on a bad footing pretty much from the initial stages of my involvement on this board you've taken some pretty unkind and uncalled for shots at me to which I've returned the favor in kind. While fun in the doing, I'd prefer a modicum of repsect in retrospect. Though fun at the time it's truly a negative thing in my view. When I asked you (after you suggested I was an advocate to unspeakable things in pm) to not pm me further I did not mean to imply that you use the open forum to vent your overt dislike of me. I now recant that restriction and offer you my private message feature on this board to employ to you heart's content.
I've been told that "oh that's just Jana being Jana" by others who attempt to explain your lack of kindness away. Well by that same token "that's just Richard being Richard" as novice_btm so eloquently put it ages ago on this thread.
You count on people being frightened of you somehow on this board and it seems to be your well spring of power. I, be assured, am not one of those posters. To that end I suggest we all (that includes you too Jana) look at this thing without being poster specific. I'm doing my damnest not to 'take nothing [you] say seriously' or call it 'whining' ... (you get my drift) but until you stop taking out your own personal dislike on very specific individual posters you'll be perceived (at least by this writer) as nothing more than a rather angry pseudo-elitist instigator. I've left you alone for ages since our last little rat-a-tat-tat. But here again you want to stir the pot.
Well backatcha then. I'm always game. Lest you forget we're nearly contemporaries you and I and I bear the same self-confidence in our respective convictions and beliefs. Perhaps, in truth, we're too much alike in many ways. The only valid difference I find is that you like to be unduly cruel. As the bumper sticker says (and it holds true to my philosophy) "mean people suck".
By now our dislike of one another is lore on this board. But really Jana no one gives a shit. I don't. Bury the hatchet (in my head if you like) but bury it already. It's unattractive no matter how you attempt to disguise it in the name of topical posting.
Now to be more thread-topical:
I've stated my opinion on racism. Those who choose to read it interjecting their own personal bias are certainly able to do so as is their right. Those who read my sentiments objectively (and any other relevant posts I've made conerning this topic) will see that my reactions to the topic are simply my own. They come from life experience and personal observation. I certainly don't ask anyone share them... nor would I have anyone converted to my way of thinking. But please understand that it's my considered opinion that one empowers it by dissecting it to the point of microscopic leftovers.
And though this thread's purpose was not in any way intended to engender such a frank discussion of race relations it inadvertently has. I'll agree with Webster in that this alone is a "good thing". I'm left saddened at how disparate we are as a species. That's the sum total of what I've gotten from this thread. To that purpose BBS's thread has provided a very sobering look at how the differences among us do not (of necessity) bring us closer.
**my apologies for hijacking (at least in part) this thread. I promise to stop 'whining' when Jana does. Seems fair... even if construed by alex8 as the 'Stronzo show'. As one observant poster once put it. "Stronzo's willing to let it die until someone drags him into it again". And remember I'm a scrappy lil mutha fucka ... I'm sure Bronxy will understand that since she's one too. :tongue:
