Me too, Gonnie. I was talking to a friend about it on the phone as I was preparing a post that never got posted. He's a Long Island resident of Italian heritage. He's old enough to be my father, but his girlfriends tend to be my age and younger, and always ethnic minorities. He's willing to date white women (he married one once), it just doesn't usually happen. Anyway, he didn't know what I was talking about when I used the phrase veiled racism. I asked him when was the last time someone treated himm like he was a wop, but never called him such a disrespectful thing; treated him like a guinny, but smiled at him and used all the right niceties in all the right places. I asked him if he ever noticed he got treated differently out on the Island when I was with him than when he was with someone who could more readily pass as white. Suddenly, he knew exactly what I meant. I wanted that thread to be just like that, and I'm sorry I allowed it to get bogged the way it did.