Venting About Cancel Culture

[Tight_N_Juicy]

Mitch McConnell Is Horrified that Corporations Are Speaking Out Against Voter Suppression

I don't know why conservatives bitch about cancel culture. Republicans created cancel culture, they’ve been doing it since forever. Elvis. Rock and roll. The Beatles. Long Hair. Record burnings. Book burnings. Comic book burnings. The Satanic Panic. The Dixie Chicks. French Fries. Coca Cola. It’s not cancel culture when they do it, it’s boycotting. Like a good patriot! It’s so silly and I’m tired of watching it happen over and over and over again.

Projection is a fuckin fucker, ain't it?

 

[gr8gatsby]

Propaganda like what Goebbels did for the National Socialists or what Marxists do for communist ideas is the venue of the left, which of course in true leftist fashion they project onto the right even though it's a big lie.

Good one, you left out Soros and CNN in this post!

 

[gr8gatsby]

I answered it. You just want an answer that's convenient to you instead of thinking beyond your limits.

Look over there ... I think I saw a Qdrop!

 

[gr8gatsby]

LOL you're a joke! I was making points. You chose to come and attack me directly. I pointed it out. I guess you're not smart enough to understand it, but I won't let you rewrite the chronology of events.

The "you're not smart enough" argument I said always a winner for FAKE conservatives.

 

[gr8gatsby]

I will only agree with this statement you just made which also falls in line with my previous "puppetmaster" statements before it. However it's not all wealthy. That generalization is wrong. It's the 1% of the 1% who you don't even see or know that pull all the strings.

You know who knows all of the string pulling? Qidiots.

 

[gr8gatsby]

As a centrist myself, I don't like what leftists have become. A brainwashed herd spewing groupthink and empty virtue signalling, not making a difference but making their weak minds "feel good" about themselves. They have perverted reality and turned it upside down. They have thrown out logic and critical thinking in favor of a social justice Kool-Aid that they willingly drink at the hands of their puppetmasters and they refuse to see the strings.

And you have a perfect example right above of someone going through the binder of leftist virtue signalling talking points, empty as they are.

We won't agree on these points and I'm good with that, so why do you persist?

Centrist, good one. I see that you're a comedian too.

 

[Scarletbegonia]

Even when the personal knocks are funny, they aren’t helpful.

 

[Scarletbegonia]

Mitch McConnell Is Horrified that Corporations Are Speaking Out Against Voter Suppression

I don't know why conservatives bitch about cancel culture. Republicans created cancel culture, they’ve been doing it since forever. Elvis. Rock and roll. The Beatles. Long Hair. Record burnings. Book burnings. Comic book burnings. The Satanic Panic. The Dixie Chicks. French Fries. Coca Cola. It’s not cancel culture when they do it, it’s boycotting. Like a good patriot! It’s so silly and I’m tired of watching it happen over and over and over again.

I’m going to eat French fries, drink a Coke, buy more Coke stock, listen to the Beatles and Dixie Chicks and brush my long hair. To fuck with conservatives.
FWIW, I was in many boycotts over the decades. We eventually called it voting with dollars.
I’m pretty sure the average person in a twist over Coke thinking voting is good wont have the full family of products, know what’s distributed where and any other income streams the Corp has.

I sort of “cancel.” I chose not to support artists who are anathema to my values. Nugent, pro sex assault/ downplaying sex assault artists, Thomas Kincaid because it makes my eyes hurt, Christo, Yoko Ono, etc.

 

[chrisrobin]

It’s not a left or right thing. The left is worse about it than the right, but it’s usually the religious right and not average right-leaning people. The religious right are as hypocritical as the lefties.

The world really has become in habited by snowflakes, and snowflakes are very very very sensitive to anything that slaps at being against anything that doesn't co-exist comfortably with todays thinking and ideas.
Hence the cancel culture that's going on. Anybody who once had an idea, and published a thought about anything that offends todays snowflakes the stick comes out, the public ridicule begins and big businesses, the media and even politics JUMPS.
eg
A television light entertainment program that was incredibly popular in the 70's got broadcast as a retrospective and to fill scheduling gaps. One person complained about a term used and the company apologized on bended knees, promised to do better, to check every show broadcast in case the offensive word cropped up again - and yet the word was in use widely. Sorry guys, don't read on because the word was Poof.
50 years on and some snowflake complains - can I complain and get compensation because the term was used to describe me?
I hate to think how the broadcasters of a very popular programme about layers is coping for even with the show itself they highlighted the idiocy of snowflakes and pc. One of the characters quoted, verbatim from a famous speech about racial inequality and he used the " " word (fill in the blank). In the show he was hauled in front of the HR team and instructed to attend classes to address his using the " " word - oh yes, and the character was black American!
The cancel culture cannot even think they might have to listen, read or see others whose views differ from their own, who's opinion and understanding might offend their tender little brains.
In Oxford there is a campaign to remove a statue because of its links to the slave trade. They object to the man being gloried by a statue, they object to the money he made from slavery. They forget his money was responsible for setting up scholarships, centres of education, hospitals and schools etc. So, if the statue is pulled down do you remove everything good that happened with the money, wipe every trace from the face of the earth? Oh, and the leading proponent to get the statue pulled down gets a bursary from the scholarships set up by Cecil Rhodes man whose statue he wants to pull down - so does he then give back his bursary?
Lets all stop being "proper", certainly about the past, its over and done with and all you can do is try not to repeat the same mistakes again, harping back to complaining about things which were in common use 50 and more years ago doesn't help people get to a better place. Instead it alienates them.
This constant whinging makes the general, public actually think yes, I did use that term and yes, in private I'll use it again. Likewise with the big campaigns and movements, mostly taken over by the snowflake brigade who in reality have nothing in common with the cause they promote.
So its time to say go jump in the lake to these over zealous enforcers of the cancel culture. Listen to a point of view that's not your own and you might learn the world is a bigger place than just your space. Get off the bandwagon if a cause is just there and you have the time to stand up and shout and wave a banner and burn a few cars, and certainly don't politicise events just to get column inches because you are a celebrity.
aboutamny otPC
Sicmathinking21 century6

 

[Industrialsize]

It’s not a left or right thing. The left is worse about it than the right, but it’s usually the religious right and not average right-leaning people. The religious right are as hypocritical as the lefties.

List of liberal progressive companies to boycott

 

[Scarletbegonia]

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How on earth is OKC based Sonic left wing?

 

[Industrialsize]

How on earth is OKC based Sonic left wing?

Progressive-minded CEO of Sonic Drive-In treads carefully with customers, franchisees who may disagree
Progressive-minded CEO of Sonic Drive-In treads carefully with customers, franchisees who may disagree

 

[michael_3165]

I think this is a layered concept that needs a lot of thought and the first thing we need is a shared understanding of what "cancel culture" actually is. For my money it is this:

The tendency for a small group of vocal extremists demanding that an individual that has different views to their own be shut down, boycotted or demonised in order to prevent dialogue.

There is a tendency for the world to be seen in polarised, binary "right versus wrong", "good versus bad" positions. Over the past decade I have seen this become more and more prevalent in society though mostly online via the likes of Twitter and other social media. It is hard to say how much this concept is accepted in the "real world" because I don't hear about it in any setting other than online forum/social media platforms.

That said I believe that much of this type of "culture" is down to an inability and an intolerance of certain people to accept or at least acknowledge that other people have a different view of the world to their own. Admitting that you are wrong or that there are other perspectives carries a degree of uncertainty or nuance which some people seem to believe negates their position.

This is particularly prevalent in situations where one member of a "group" has a different view of the world than the majority. Take for example John McWhorter; a black American that is anti-reparations and denounces terms like White Fragility. He is widely condemned by sections of social media because he dare have a different opinion. Some people go to the extreme of saying that they will not debate or discuss issues because they will not allow those with differing opinions validation but this misses the point entirely. Because the average person sees this as an active attempt to avoid challenging ideas and is opposed to this.

Sadly we have moved into the realm of us versus them; this rather sinister desire to move Westernised culture away from individualism and toward collectivist thinking which is counter-productive if we want equity for all. When we put people in boxes (black, white, gay, straight, trans, "cis" - yes I despise that term immensely) what we do is erode any sense of who people are as individual people - living, breathing people with wishes, dreams, values.

Then we have the likes of Ellen Degeneres who got in a spot of bother by being a less than kind "Be Kind Lady". Ultimately this highlights how those that call for people to be cancelled forget that the machine that allows for this may one day come for them too. You must be squeaky clean to criticise others and I have always believed that if you haven't got your own shit together don't lecture other people on theirs. Why? Because we are all fallible. We all fuck up. We all do and say stuff we regret later because we are HUMAN. I don't want to live in a world where my future is dependant on shitty, cruel, mean or "wrong" things I have thought, said or did in the past. We all evolve, move on, learn and change.

In short, stop lumping people into good or bad categories. You can hold two positions at the same time without condoning them. Nasty people can do good things and good people can be cruel and heartless - it does not make them inherently either/or.

Just a view. What do I know!? We need to listen more, want to get more information rather than scream that our positions are the "right" ones. Because tomorrow they won't be.

 

[michael_3165]

I'm already sick and tired of the posts here that ask "if you're not attracted to a black man is that racist?" What garbage. Typical of the radical left wing brainwashing that has been happening in the west over the past 30+ years.

I don't necessarily think its a left/right issue. There are many issues on both ends of the spectrum that are weaponised. That said I feel that the preachy nature of the left leaning brigade tends to gall your average person on the street.

I have found that if you DISAGREE with aspects of an argument that you are a horrible person. For example, agreeing with black rights and equality whilst denouncing the trend of calling everyone who challenges the narrative as racist. This is simply unhelpful because it will drive people from the good that I believe the left tries to do.

It is interesting how the left is no longer liberal at all. I am a liberal - I believe in ALL free speech (except those promoting and citing violence to others which I fundamentally don't believe is legitimate), I believe that people should be allowed to live their lives as they so choose (within the realms of the law, no under age sex or criminal activity condoning here!). I do not believe that the state has a right to impose on my privacy and that people have a right to have horrible, ghastly views. The left don't represent me any more.

 

[1088431]

I don't necessarily think its a left/right issue. There are many issues on both ends of the spectrum that are weaponised. That said I feel that the preachy nature of the left leaning brigade tends to gall your average person on the street.

I have found that if you DISAGREE with aspects of an argument that you are a horrible person. For example, agreeing with black rights and equality whilst denouncing the trend of calling everyone who challenges the narrative as racist. This is simply unhelpful because it will drive people from the good that I believe the left tries to do.

It is interesting how the left is no longer liberal at all. I am a liberal - I believe in ALL free speech (except those promoting and citing violence to others which I fundamentally don't believe is legitimate), I believe that people should be allowed to live their lives as they so choose (within the realms of the law, no under age sex or criminal activity condoning here!). I do not believe that the state has a right to impose on my privacy and that people have a right to have horrible, ghastly views. The left don't represent me any more.

Neither the left nor right represents me anymore.

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

Neither the left nor right represents me anymore.

The fact that you use the kinds of words you do ("woke-mob", for example) suggest otherwise.

You come off right leaning/conservative thinking. Very much so.

Just an observation.

 

[halcyondays]

MLB moved the All Star Game out of Georgia to protest that state's newest regressive voting laws. It's a rare breath of fresh air from a normally conservative, stodgy billionaires' club of baseball owners.

I rewarded MLB by buying a subscription for the season. (I used to watch their free game of the day from time to time).

Denver will host the mid-summer classic.

 

[chrisrobin]

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Wasn't The White House and the Capitol Building built with money that came from slave trade roots?

 

[michael_3165]

The fact that you use the kinds of words you do ("woke-mob", for example) suggest otherwise.

You come off right leaning/conservative thinking. Very much so.

Just an observation.

This is my point entirely.

So many people judge and label 'others' and immediately move to a right or wrong polarisation.

There are bits of truth in all perspectives even if they are hard to find.

As for woke... Its meaningless I believe. Another label to demonise others.

 

[b.c.]

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Thanks for the list. Copied and pasted it to my screen. THEY'LL be the companies I'll DEFINITELY be spending my money with.

Wasn't The White House and the Capitol Building built with money that came from slave trade roots?

They were built BY slaves, along with other laborers and European immigrants.

Did Slaves Build the White House? - White House Historical Association

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