Venting About Cancel Culture

[Tight_N_Juicy]

This is my point entirely.

So many people judge and label 'others' and immediately move to a right or wrong polarisation.

There are bits of truth in all perspectives even if they are hard to find.

Kinda how he labeled leftists as a "woke mob"?

EDIT: just noticed that you addressed that in your last sentence. Yeah, this thread was more a vent about the woke leftists. Not so much a rant about cancel culture generally. That's how it reads to me, and I've been following the thread since it started.

 

[michael_3165]

Kinda how he labeled leftists as a "woke mob"?

EDIT: just noticed that you addressed that in your last sentence. Yeah, this thread was more a vent about the woke leftists. Not so much a rant about cancel culture generally. That's how it reads to me, and I've been following the thread since it started.

Yes I meant what you highlighted.

One could argue that cancelling is primarily a leftist behaviour though there are always exceptions.

People just need to calm down and raise they and their opinions mean v little in real life. We are all deluded in believing we have the answers!

 

[Industrialsize]

Yes I meant what you highlighted.

One could argue that cancelling is primarily a leftist behaviour though there are always exceptions.

Don't be absurd:

List of liberal progressive companies to boycott

 

[michael_3165]

Don't be absurd:
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List of liberal progressive companies to boycott

Well done for failing to read my whole post.

We can highlight singular examples of these things to confirm our biases. As I said, one could argue, not that I am arguing that point.

Care to be a little more polite next time?

 

[Industrialsize]

Well done for failing to read my whole post.

We can highlight singular examples of these things to confirm our biases. As I said, one could argue, not that I am arguing that point.

Care to be a little more polite next time?

So is "cancelling" primarily a leftist behavior?(dixie chick, freedom fries...)

 

[Industrialsize]

Trump has targeted at least 21 companies with calls for boycotts, threats of taxes, and other ominous warnings — see the list
President Donald Trump said last week that the "radical left" is using boycotts to "hurt their enemy."

But "two can play that game," the president warned on Twitter.

Indeed, Trump has targeted a number of companies during his time in office and while he was campaigning for president.

His targets have included Apple, Amazon, AT&T, Boeing, Facebook, GM, Google, Macy's, Merck, Nordstrom, T-Mobile, Toyota, and Twitter. A spokesperson for the White House did not respond to Business Insider's request for comment on this article.
Trump has targeted at least 21 companies with calls for boycotts, threats of taxes, and other ominous warnings — see the list

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

Yes I meant what you highlighted.

One could argue that cancelling is primarily a leftist behaviour though there are always exceptions.

People just need to calm down and raise they and their opinions mean v little in real life. We are all deluded in believing we have the answers!

I see just as many, if not More examples of right-wing censorship than from the left.. they just don't label it as cancel culture when they're the ones doing it. It's all bullshit and it's all a distraction from actual issues facing our communities.

 

[michael_3165]

So is "cancelling" primarily a leftist behavior?(dixie chick, freedom fries...)

I'd say its done in a louder way. Cancelling often comes from a moral perspective that a person or organisation is acting in an unequal, unfair way. The left are more socially conscious (again not always). The big attempts to cancel seem to be related to gender, race, sexuality related issues (JK Rowling is a prime example) and the right wingers tend to boycott in response to 'woke' organisations (e.g. Sainsburys in the UK making safer spaces for black employees).

The right generally doesnt seem to boycott because a company marginalises minorities, exploits workers etc. At times they do but if question whether they are more centrist in that regard.

Again there is no definite truth here. We can't make sweeping generalisations aand I am only pointing out my personal observations. I have no dog in the fight. I don't identify politically because it's a fundamentally flawed system of thinking. I view each idea on its own merits and ALWAYS assume I am missing info.

 

[michael_3165]

Trump has targeted at least 21 companies with calls for boycotts, threats of taxes, and other ominous warnings — see the list
President Donald Trump said last week that the "radical left" is using boycotts to "hurt their enemy."

But "two can play that game," the president warned on Twitter.

Indeed, Trump has targeted a number of companies during his time in office and while he was campaigning for president.

His targets have included Apple, Amazon, AT&T, Boeing, Facebook, GM, Google, Macy's, Merck, Nordstrom, T-Mobile, Toyota, and Twitter. A spokesperson for the White House did not respond to Business Insider's request for comment on this article.
Trump has targeted at least 21 companies with calls for boycotts, threats of taxes, and other ominous warnings — see the list

I'd not use Trump as any kind of evidence for or against something. He is an anomaly in various ways. He is one of the few people I actively avoid puttting any stock on opinion wise.

 

[Industrialsize]

I'd not use Trump as any kind of evidence for or against something. He is an anomaly in various ways. He is one of the few people I actively avoid puttting any stock on opinion wise.

Mr Trump is not an anomaly in the United States. He has absolute control of the Republican party and the right wing.

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

I'd not use Trump as any kind of evidence for or against something. He is an anomaly in various ways. He is one of the few people I actively avoid puttting any stock on opinion wise.

Well, he does represent the republican party itself now. The polls prove it. People do listen to him, their reasons I'll never understand but it's not untrue that he has a significant following of dedicated supporters.

Acting like he doesn't matter because he's an anomaly is dangerous.

 

[michael_3165]

Mr Trump is not an anomaly in the United States. He has absolute control of the Republican party and the right wing.

I agree he has control re media but I'd like some data and research that it is as wide spread as it seems online. I hate to make assumptions that what we see in our echo chambers is based on reality. Most oof the time our lives are self imposed delusions based on confirmation bias etc. But in principle he does have control in some form but that doesn't make him right.

 

[michael_3165]

Well, he does represent the republican party itself now. The polls prove it. People do listen to him, their reasons I'll never understand but it's not untrue that he has a significant following of dedicated supporters.

Acting like he doesn't matter because he's an anomaly is dangerous.

Again I'd like data that indicates he is popular because of what he says versus because people dislike Democrats. In the UK the tories won not because people love and agree w Johnson, but because the alternative was unpalatable electorally.

Never underestimate any in politics, I agree. In part it's how trump surprised the world in 2016... As they thought he had no chance.

Anyway good convos but I should go work! Have a great day

 

[Industrialsize]

Again I'd like data that indicates he is popular because of what he says versus because people dislike Democrats. In the UK the tories won not because people love and agree w Johnson, but because the alternative was unpalatable electorally.

Never underestimate any in politics, I agree. In part it's how trump surprised the world in 2016... As they thought he had no chance.

Anyway good convos but I should go work! Have a great day

Do your own research. Those of us who live in the United States and have experienced Trump and the devolving of the Republican party have no need for such research. We have seen it with our own eyes.

 

[gr8gatsby]

This is my point entirely.

So many people judge and label 'others' and immediately move to a right or wrong polarisation.

There are bits of truth in all perspectives even if they are hard to find.

As for woke... Its meaningless I believe. Another label to demonise others.

Perhaps not in the U.K., but here in the USA the term "woke mob" has a very specific meaning. It is not complimentary and never used as a conservative identifier.

 

[Industrialsize]

The fact that you use the kinds of words you do ("woke-mob", for example) suggest otherwise.

You come off right leaning/conservative thinking. Very much so.

Just an observation.

Agreed, and for some reason, he's trying to hide the fact?

 

[Scarletbegonia]

Progressive-minded CEO of Sonic Drive-In treads carefully with customers, franchisees who may disagree
Progressive-minded CEO of Sonic Drive-In treads carefully with customers, franchisees who may disagree

That’s hardly left wing. That’s like calling Chick-fil-A leftist because they shifted donations away from Sally Alley.

 

[Scarletbegonia]

I wasn't talking to you but whatever.

Have fun trolling along, angry little "centrist".

I think that word doesn’t not mean what the user thinks it does.

I can live with centrist left. I know my view is off center. Many are.

 

[Scarletbegonia]

You were talking about me, replying to @Zedd123 but mentioning "he" as in me. How do you even know that's my pronouns? You might be sexist too you angry little leftist.

Red herring. You list male and not trans/NB. You TOLD us.

 

[deleted116951]

It isn't Cancel Culture - its Consequence Culture. Yes, you can say anything you want under the 1st amendment but the 1st amendment doesn't protect you from what others think of you once you open your stupid mouth. If people don't agree with what you just said its totally within their right to ignore anything you have to say afterwards.