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Quote: What's a "slag"? Is that British for "slut"?

Slag, sexually, generally tends to mean someone who is even less than the lowest of the low...

In Industrial terms, Slag is the slop that is left after an industrial process (say for example when your seperating HydroCarbons, the slag that is left over is Diesel)

Cant believe I just added this to a thread about very rough sex... lol
 

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I've found that it is a good idea to ask her (and she can speak for im as well usually) what words are definite turn ons and what words are she HATES.

I think this is brilliant advice!!! For me the words used are ultra important. Get it wrong and I'll just be feeling all icky and any sense of wanting to submit to you will go out the window.

For instance, many of the phrases suggested in this thread would have me wanting to stop there and then. Lots of them just sound like people TRYING to be dominant, rather than actually achieving it. They make me want to giggle. Others are complete turn offs.

A few make me want to cum on the spot. Anyone speaking those phrases at the right time and in the right way would have my utter devotion.

But it's different from one individual to another. Some of those phases that make me feel icky or make me want to giggle might rock someone else's world.


good boy! *pets and rewards* you get a gold star for safety.

hmm not so much into verbal humiliation.
ya could check out literotica. focus on humiliation stories and such?

i would think mostly commenting on size differences between you and her husband.
how she's breaking vows because of her insatiable appetites.
making her tell you how much she likes it, in the most vulgar of terms.
only giving her what she'll beg for. is good for pushing boundaries.
depersonalization, focus on her body parts, not her as a whole person. pussy, ass, mouth.
ask her if race play is on the table. is a very sensitive topic, but some folks like it.
mirrors are good.. when playing in con-non-con i like putting partners in front of mirrors. forcing someone to watch themselves can be wicked. combined with shyness, is bad in good ways.

i mean there is heaps of ways to turn the screw.. is just most require knowing ya partner well enough not to go to far. and running the risk of sounding like bad porn.

do you play the humiliation game often?

is this a "bull" role ya taking on?

This made my 1% vibrate.


My pal ML has given you some amazing, fantastic advice, ppp37. As an experienced dom who's into a whole menu of extreme sex, it's really all about the consent of the sub. You really need to discuss parameters and expectations before any play gets started. One of the things novices (both dom and sub) frequently don't really understand is that, despite appearances, it's the sub who actually controls the action by setting his/her limits. If it's not consensual then it's assault.

One of the biggest challenges in humiliation play is keeping it in what I call "the real": overwrought fantasy scenarios just never seem to lift off the ground, at least for me. I find them very tedious, personally. Finding "the real" happens in a spontaneous way when and if you can:

1) Establish a trust based on chemistry and the negotiated limits; and
2) Have enough knowledge of the sub's inner strengths and weaknesses enough to exploit them.

I bundle all forms of erotic expression that fall outside the boundaries of vanilla as extreme sex, and have very few limits, myself, on what I will and will not do (non-consensual and scat are really about it), but I understand that not everyone comes to the play with the same attitude (nor should they). So I can take the humiliation game to levels and areas that others might not (choking, gagging, water sports, for instance); I remember one case where all I had to do was spit on someone to gain a complete submissiveness. Others have required rougher treatment. This is not a one-size-fits-all strategy thing here.

Good luck, and let us know how it goes.

And I'll forever wish for a chance to play with you!
 

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I like forcing dudes who suck me off to admit verbally how they can' t live without my cock, and how they'll do anything for it, and how, "yes, I admit it! I admit it!! I crave your cock."

Marry me!!! :biggrin1:

You hit one of my hot buttons, and hard! Luckily, the few that have had the privilege of saying such things to me have reaped amazing rewards. Auditions start tomorrow if you want to be next. :wink:
 

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So she says she is into physical rough sex as well. So we will definitely have to talk about limits.

I appreciate all the advice, especially from Bbucko. Consent is definitely my number one concern, I'm not interested in doing something someone doesn't want me to do to them. Hopefully I can figure out enough about her to make her really squirm (before I stick it in). Also good call on making sure there are no bad words. Definitely like the advice on tying HIM up :tongue:

You seriously need to communicate a lot more with her, and probably with them both, before anything happens. The term rough sex is so general, it can mean practically anything IRL.

Sometimes these things are better discussed in writing rather than verbally, both for clarity and because it's sometimes easier to write about sex than to speak about it verbally. You might try that.

And I'll forever wish for a chance to play with you!

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This made my 1% vibrate.

my 80% says to your 1% - how you doin?
then my 80% hit your 1% with the smoulder.
is a powerful smoulder




@ Penis - dude, email is your friend.

send her a message with some of your favorite ideas from this thread, ask her for feed back. is a good way to start off a back and forth about limits and expectations. make it fun, run it like a bit of cyber foolery.

if you wanna be uber-detailed there are BDSM Checklists out there. you can stir a lil kink up if ya are in the mind to.

if ya worried about her boy freaking out send him a few emails to get a feel for him and his limits.

mostly, what Mr. Bbucko said, everyone has their own idea of what is rough sex. some people it's a few harsh word, a slap and tickle. other people want take home bruises. talk to her about what defines her fantasy. y'all might be at different ends of the kink.

if ya like, drop me a PM, i'll can give you basic scene rundown. is not torture, promise.
 
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my 80% says to your 1% - how you doin?
then my 80% hit your 1% with the smoulder.
is a powerful smoulder




@ Penis - dude, email is your friend.

send her a message with some of your favorite ideas from this thread, ask her for feed back. is a good way to start off a back and forth about limits and expectations. make it fun, run it like a bit of cyber foolery.

if you wanna be uber-detailed there are BDSM Checklists out there. you can stir a lil kink up if ya are in the mind to.

if ya worried about her boy freaking out send him a few emails to get a feel for him and his limits.

mostly, what Mr. Bbucko said, everyone has their own idea of what is rough sex. some people it's a few harsh word, a slap and tickle. other people want take home bruises. talk to her about what defines her fantasy. y'all might be at different ends of the kink.

if ya like, drop me a PM, i'll can give you basic scene rundown. is not torture, promise.

Mickey i secretly wanna make your 20% grow, oh dang my secret is out.
 

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This is, as Bbucko says, an area of sex that requires a LOT of talk with everybody involved. I've done a lot of strange stuff over the years, and I have had a woman whose definition of "rough sex" meant ass slapping, and a very different woman whose definition included my belt, real force, bruising, a lot of slapping around, and being left on a concrete floor. But the latter woman specifically excluded "whore" and "slut".

And most everything between.
 

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It's kind of surprising how many woman have a rough sex fantasy and will "go there" when given the chance. I've been posting ads on CL when I travel around the country specifically looking for women who're wanting to explore some of the more aggressive sex (for example, this one currently posted for Jackson Hole, WY: Seeking a Woman Looking to Explore - m4w).

In some places, I get no responses, but in most cities, I'll get a handful of replies and have hooked up with probably two dozen women and gone on to have some major league rough sex (one in Philadelphia a few months ago lasted over six continuous hours. Fucking incredible).

It does take some serious patience and communication skills to get a woman comfortable with a stranger when it comes to engaging in rough sex, but the rewards are really, really worth it. :biggrin1:
 

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This is, as Bbucko says, an area of sex that requires a LOT of talk with everybody involved. I've done a lot of strange stuff over the years, and I have had a woman whose definition of "rough sex" meant ass slapping, and a very different woman whose definition included my belt, real force, bruising, a lot of slapping around, and being left on a concrete floor. But the latter woman specifically excluded "whore" and "slut".

And most everything between.
"rough sex"? sounds interesting woman.
 

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Wow. So much awesome info here. It has really piqued my interests. The couple seems to have flaked out. It was probably the guy the whole time sending me pics of his girl. They didn't voice verify and wanted to do it without a condom :eek:

However I'm glad it happened because it made me post this thread. This is an avenue that I will definitely try and explore in future relationships. I hope this thread has enlightened others as well :biggrin1:
 

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My ex-wife was into some pretty hardcore down and dirty rough sex. One day while we were at home I sort of grabbed her and kissed her while we were in the middle of a heated discussion --- she wouldn't have shut up otherwise. Well that night she mentioned how it turned her on and finally admitted that she would mind being "aggressively handled" during sex. It went from some sort of ‘tossing’ her around to full-blown shredding her clothes off and forcing her to do what I wanted, how I wanted and as long as I wanted. It actually stunned really, as to how much it turned me on!
 

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Now were talking. This is my thing. There's lots of rules involved and if this is a road u want to venture down it's imperative u develop a repoire prior to any encounter. Reason being our primal instinct kicks in and people can get hurt or raped non-consencually. One I'll never forget was we were gettin down very dirty n rough. I told my lover "fark me like u own me u cock suckin carnt". N he did head first into the wall. Few minutes later one black eye developing, minor graze on the forehead coz a ladder was involved and I had to scrap my tonsils off the ceiling. Haha. Fark it was good completely unintentional. Lay the ground rules prior n it will b one of the most amazing experiences you'll remember. RESPECT is essential for each other. N yes I totally agree with the poster you not in control I just let u think u r. ;) power to the pussy!! :biggrin1:
 

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First I'll share something that presumably was written by an actual woman and made the rounds on Craigslist. Let's assume it was actually written by a woman for the purpose of my next post.



Dear Men of Craigslist,

Look, I know you men have it difficult. Women are just about impossible to understand, much less please. In a post-feminist society, you never know exactly what you should be doing. Women are bloody picky, I know we are. It can be scary, too, when women freak out about what appear to be benign issues. And men who do their best to be respectful, female-positive humans, I salute you, I do.

But please, please just fuck me already. Honestly, I appreciate your thoughtfulness. I like that you want to take things slow. I can totally get behind the idea of emotional connection, but dearjesusinheaven, FUCK ME. We've done dinner and drinks. We've gone dancing. We've cuddled and watched a movie. I'm wearing a low cut shirt and you've been staring at my breasts all night. Goodgodalmighty, get to it and fuck me.

When we get hot and heavy, please take charge. Please, please fuck me. Trust me, I'm not going to just lie still - I'll get involved. But don't make me force your hand into my panties. That makes me feel like a rapist. We've been kissing for a half hour and your hand keeps grazing my ass. That's nice, but it's time to move forward. Get on top of me. Don't make me get on top right out of the gate and start bobbing up and down on your cock like I'm practicing some crazy new aerobic yoga because YOU won't go down on me. Roll on top and start dry humping like a good boy should. Don't gently suck my nipples and then pull back when I moan with pleasure. You being coy is totally not what I want. It's not what WE want.

OK, I know it's scary. There are lots of women out there who make fucking really difficult. So, I have compiled some handy tips. Don't think of this as complaining, or as schadenfreude for the Andrea Dworkins of the world. Just some simple tips, for timid men who have forgotten what it means to fuck like men:

1. Taking charge is not bad. Oh, there will be some women who feel that you are pushy. If you are making out with a woman, and she starts to push back, ask nicely if things are moving too fast. If she says yes, say something like "I'm sorry - you just look so fucking delicious. I'll go slower." Otherwise, skillfully move forward. If you start kissing a woman, and she responds well, and before long, you're both on the floor with her skirt pushed up, and you on top of her, it's not the time to roll onto your back and start awkwardly stroking the top of her head. Seriously, grow a goddamn pair. YOU'RE the man. Act like one.

2. Ohmyfuckinggod, please learn to respect the clit. It's different for every woman, so ask what she likes. Do not, I repeat, do not just wiggle your fingers around her pussy like you're trying to tickle her. Do not drum your fingertips against her vulva like you are impatiently waiting at theSears Tire Center for your receipt. Do not push the clit like it is a doorbell at some house that you need to get inside of. Start by using all four fingers with firm yet gentle pressure against the outside of her pussy. Do not charge in with a single finger and start jabbing at things. And if you really don't know what to do, ask her. Just ask. "How do you like it?". It's a simple question, and most women will answer straight out. If she's being all coy, ask "Do you like pressure? Is it sensitive?" The clitoris is a varied item, indeed. Treat each one as though you have never encountered one before. Forget everything that your last partner liked.

3. Most women like to be fucked, and fucked well. Yes, there are women out there who want to "make love" every time - sweet, gentle, rocking love with lots of eye contact and loving kisses. Those women are not the majority. The majority like to be pounded. The majority like to have their hair pulled. The majority like a good, solid jackhammering. When a woman is bucking wildly against you, it's not because she wants you to pull back and slowly swirl your cock around her vagina like you're mixing a cake batter up there. It's because she wants you to hold down her arms, or grab her hips, or push her legs above her head, and fuck her harder. Don't be too afraid of what this means as far as gender equality goes - I am a raging feminist bitch, but I still want to be penetrated like you are planning on fucking my throat from the inside out.

4. A little roughness is nice. Do not pretend that you had no idea that some women like their hair pulled. Do not act shocked if she wants you to spank her ("Really? Spanking? Won't it hurt?" - yes, it does. That's the fucking point). We know you've read Stuff and Maxim, and that's all those laddie mags talk about in their "How to Please Her" sections. Start with light, full handed smacks to the area of her ass that she sits on. Judge her response and continue on from there. You don't have to bend her over one knee and tell her she's a naughty girl and that Daddy's going to punish her; save that for the fifth date. Women are less delicate than you think, so don't worry about breaking her hip.

5. It's OK for you to make noise. Otherwise, we feel like we are fucking a ninja. Unless you actually are a ninja, and have sneaked into our rooms with vibrating nanuchaku and zippered black pajamas, please, please make some noise. If you're banging a woman, and she's crying out and saying your name and moaning, and you can't even manage a grunt, she's going to feel like an idiot. You don't have to make the sounds she is making, but do SOMETHING. You know how when you are watching porn, and the girl does something great to the guy and the guy kind of goes "Ah!", half grunt, half yell? That's HOT. Do that. Whisper our name (assuming you know it) gruffly. Groan against her neck when you're in missionary position. You don't have to grunt like a mountain gorilla, but if you are totally mute, she's going to get worried.

6. Most women like dirty talk, in addition to the grunting. If you'd like to get some dirty talk going, ask her if she likes the way you fuck her. If she responds well, continue with something like, "I love fucking you. God, you look so fucking hot." Is she still moaning in response? "Your tits are so beautiful." Does that work? If she doesn't respond well to the term "tits", you might have to stop there. If she keep moaning or responding, pass Go and collect $200. Try the following:

"Oh, god. Your pussy is SO tight."
"You're so wet - are you wet because you like the feel of my cock ramming you?"
"I think I'm going to come inside you. I'm going to fill up your little cunt." It doesn't matter that you're wearing a condom; we LOVE hearing this.

If all of those work, you can then progress to things like "sexy little bitch" and "dirty whore". Tread carefully, but please, tread. Do not tiptoe. Do not sit down. Charge.

6. You're not obligated to eat a woman out. In return, she's not obligated to choke on your dick. Don't skip one and expect the other. If you do eat a woman out, the only comment you should make about her pussy is how nice it is. The length of her labia minora, the color of her interior, her waxing job or full bush - you are not John Madden. No time for color commentary.

7. Do not bitch about condoms. Oh, we hate them. Trust us. They hurt us more than they hurt you. But we don't want to be preggers, and you don't want to catch anything, right? Don't whine about condom sex. Do not explain that you can't come with one on. LEARN to come with one on, or if not, help us figure out what to do with you once we're satisfied and it's time for you to let loose your load.

8. We really like it when you come. It's called a money shot for a reason. Watching semen shoot out of you is one of the most gratifying things EVER. However, do not assume that she wants you to jack it off onto her face. She might, but don't assume. Seeing and/or feeling you come is rewarding for us, so there's no need to deprive us of it, but please do consult us before unleashing. "I think I'm going to come - how do you like it?" is a fair question that shouldn't rob you of your testicles.

In recent memory, I've been fucked by a very aggressive, manly guy, and I've been... well, fucked is the wrong term here. I've been penetrated by a total and utter wuss. Who am I going to run back to when I'm ready for my fill? Manly McHardon, that's who. ----------------------------------------------------
 

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I've spent the last several years living in Asia. When I first read the previous (Craigslist post) years ago, I would have said that she was reaching on item #6 involving dirty talk, and that probably only American girls (the "woman" who presumably wrote this is British, though) would go for that one.

It wasn't until just last week, when a shy, demure, sexually-innocent and deprived, Thai girl, told me she felt like a whore when she's with me (and only with me, she added), AND that she liked it, and after my assurance to her that she has my permission to whore, she now regularly encourages and commands me to "f me like a whore!" and responds visibly to my own commands of the same words (funny how we can both say the same words, and we're always referring to her, isn't it?)....yep, it wasn't until just last week that I now believe that EVEN THAT bit of wiring is universal!

Funny thing is, all of these nice girls want to f and be f'ed like whores. The truth is, most whores I've been with have been pretty boring in bed, actually. Think about it. They're with a lot of guys who are only interested in their own (the guys') pleasure. The guys probably don't last that long--not long enough for the girls to gain any real skills, AND most of these girls, at least the ones I've met, aren't too thrilled to be doing what they do for a living. One girl told me, "I don't like my job." They're not in the business for
any great love or passion for the industry or upward career mobility. They do it out of necessity given limited options. So, the irony is that all these good girls are aspiring to to the freedom and uninhibited sexual enjoyment that they BELIEVE whores enjoy, while the real whores are pretty tame by comparison.

In any event, my point is to offer YOU (original poster) some "permission to whore" based on what I've learned about women's wiring.

The other thing I'd like to suggest is a website Taken In Hand. If you're not familiar, it will blow your mind as to what a lot of women secretly and desperately crave from the men in their relationships.

The final thing I'd like to suggest is something I learned when I first discovered the whole dom/sub dynamic and read on a site called castlerealm.com (the site is now defunct, but thanks to the magic of the internet, you can view it in its entirety in "The Way Back Machine" at Internet Archive: Digital Library of Free Books, Movies, Music & Wayback Machine ). If the woman you are dealing with is a true sub, then ASKING her what she wants is a no no. Subs don't, can't or won't TELL you what to do because that's just entirely NOT how they are wired. TELLING you what she wants and what to do may be something she is functionally incapable of doing. Being the "nice guy who wanted to please his woman," I asked my first sub girlfriend what she wanted and she said, "I don't want to tell you that. That puts me in control of a game I don't want to be in control of." (Those were her exact words. They remain crystal clear to me 7 years later as if she spoke them just a moment ago.)

I was befuddled. Fortunately, a few days later I read on the castlerealm site that you can't ask a sub what to do, but you can ask her "How do you want to feel?"
So, the next time I was with my sub girlfriend, I asked "How do you want to feel?"

Without a second's hesitation, she blurted out, "I want to feel RAVAGED!!" (Later in the conversation she also said, "During sex, anything goes.") So, for future encounters that pan out, I would suggest that you employ that little conversational strategy when you get your marching orders in any bull/cuckold session.

Have fun!
 

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Yes Jamacian guy many of us women want to feel the power and strength of a man as he dominates us and degrades us. I think it is part of the natural gender differences.
 

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Thanks for the confirmation, Nia.
Can you shed any light on the degradation part of that feminine wiring? Having always made an effort to put myself in the mental and physical space of my lovers, I think I understand the appeal of the power and strength aspect. I've speculated that being "taken like a whore" also gives many women "permission" to go wild given that they are being ostensibly "forced" by a man and can thus absolve themselves of the responsibility of seeking out and enjoying sex in ways that good girls aren't supposed to. But, where does the degradation fit in? What need or desire does it fulfill?
 
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I can use the threat of physical force to dominate you. I can lift you up and toss you around to actually demonstrate my physical domination. So would you say that calling you names is more of a psychological domination? Now, don't get me wrong, I'll do whatever pleases my lover, and perhaps the apprehension on my part is my "stuff," but it just seems that the name-calling, and other acts of humiliation and degradation are on a different level and start to border on being a bit abusive. (I don't mean to keep you tied up with my queries; If any other women read this, I would love to hear some feedback)