Video of me fucking my GF on the photo copier at work?

[B_talltpaguy]

Damage control!

So, Site Services are the ones that run the security video cameras? I would try to find out who knows....who has seen the video. Maybe you can give them some money to delete the video on the server.

So, let me get this straight... An outside company does the security work, right?

And the service tech who works at that outside company has obviously reviewed the security recordings (probably against that company's internal policy. Usually there is a 'separation of powers' so that no one employee can corrupt things) and is now happily discussing what he saw in public? (definitely against any respectable company's policy)... Moreover, you said yourself that you were a MINOR in the video, so it is in fact child pornography that he is gleefully joking about.

I would simply contact the highest ranking official in that company you can find, and alert them to the fact that you have learned that 2 employees of your company engaged in some activity on the recordings, but one of the employees was a minor, and that some tech with the company is running around telling people about how he watched it and thoroughly enjoyed it.

Problem solved.

 

[Hippie Hollow Girl]

Maybe your dad will understand. If it really was your birthday... and your hot girlfriend came over and instigated the sexual activity in the photo copy room. What is a guy to do? It would be like turning down a birthday gift. At least you shut the door. You just didn't remember that the room was being video recorded! I would think it is an honest mistake.

Maybe you can get on your dad's good side real quick before you tell him! And then just offer to go. Remember that if the parents find out things from a source other than you.......they are usually more angry. And they stay mad longer. Then if someone does attempt the blackmail scenario...... ole dad will have someone else to be mad at.

 

[Pendlum]

No, he said his dad has caught him in the past when he was 16. 2 years (minimum) is a long time to keep video footage. Read more carefully people.

 

[hunkydory]

I don't think having sex at work is a big deal. And I don't get what the guy who complimented your gf's tits did wrong, wasn't like he insulted them. Btw I have a PH.D, in Experimental Psychology and think you should just agree with the guy about the nice tits an forget about it.

 

[bigjpgh]

I don't think you can fire him. You'll subject yourself to some form of libel. Even if you find a reason to terminate him for cause, he's got you by the balls (so to speak).

Do not listen to this post, they have no idea what they are talking about

 

[Over-reaching]

To the OP: is your father going to be so very upset if he finds out? You're of age, presumably your g/f is of age, and it doesn't sound as if any harm was done.

Beyond that, I'd avoid getting involved in any way with being blackmailed or in trying to forestall blackmail (e.g. by giving the man money). Your best approach, I think, is that of the Duke of Wellington: "Publish and be damned.

I don't think you can dismiss him or make his life difficult, since you then open yourself to the charge of wrongful dismissal or constructive dismissal. If things reach that pass then the whole situation will become public in a much more embarrassing way for you, and moreover you are likely to be found to be in the wrong over your behaviour towards him.

If he should resort to frank blackmail, then that is a different situation, since attempting to blackmail someone is a criminal offence. If he does that he ought to be dismissed, and possibly charged, but in all the circumstances I'd seek legal advice (notwithstanding that you are a lawyer) before proceeding.

 

[Viking_UK]

How many times do people have to be told that it's not clever to have sex in the office?

You can't fire the guy because he hasn't done anything wrong yet, and especially if he works for a firm you have a contract with. You may be able to negotiate a change in security firm when their contract comes up, but don't bank on it. Chances are you won't be able to do anything about the recording legally, but if you're a solicitor, you're probably aware of that already.

If he tries to blackmail you and you give in, he's got you by the balls. If you don't give in and he goes to Daddy or goes public, you risk losing your job and reputation.

It may be an easier solution if you accept one of those other job offers and see if hard work can get you a position in another company equivalent to the one birth gave you in Daddy's firm.

And for future reference, if you're going to carry on fucking at work, try to make sure it's not in front of a security camera.

Bear in mind that these kinds of things have a habit of coming back to haunt you in later life, especially if you become famous or high-profile.

 

[bigjpgh]

Ok, clearly the vast majority of people have no clue when it comes to employment law. If someone works for you and isn't a union or contract employee, you can fire him for any reason or no reason at all. It doesn't matter if he has done something wrong or not. It is called at-will employment and as I said, unless he is union or under contract, his employment is at your whim. That being said, it would be a total dick move to fire someone for no reason or for something like in the OP, if it is true. The only time you cannot fire an at-will employee is if doing so is in violation of discrimination laws.

 

[Over-reaching]

Ok, clearly the vast majority of people have no clue when it comes to employment law. If someone works for you and isn't a union or contract employee, you can fire him for any reason or no reason at all. It doesn't matter if he has done something wrong or not. It is called at-will employment and as I said, unless he is union or under contract, his employment is at your whim. That being said, it would be a total dick move to fire someone for no reason or for something like in the OP, if it is true. The only time you cannot fire an at-will employee is if doing so is in violation of discrimination laws.

At-will employment applies in the US. It doesn't apply in the UK, where the OP is (at least some of the time), or in most other "Western" countries.

Anyway, as you say (in different words), it would not be very ethical to dismiss someone for no reason.

 

[D_Andreas Sukov]

Atleast your GREAT CV will save you eh?

 

[gymfresh]

Some parts seem to be missing here. It's not against the law to have sex with your girlfriend (presumably both parties are no longer minors). The Site Services employee has not even hinted at blackmail or telling anyone about what he presumably has seen. So is the issue that the OP assumes the SS guy is going to tell his dad? And assumes that his dad will fire or demote him? (What if he congratulates him or ignores the matter?)

What kind of an office has video surveillance in the photocopy room, particularly a family-run business? Even if they do, it's presumably for theft rather than for screwing, so unless either party got reams instead of got reamed, it's irrelevant.

This business of who-should-buy-off-whom is just silly. It comes down to this: if your personal ethos dictates you have disgraced your father, and you have, then resign. If it's not a disgrace, then stay. At least you know the score now.

As for the discussion of employment law in the thread, at-will employment does not apply in most of the developed world as literally as it does in the US, and it's even being chipped away at here. Many states now recognize only a modified at-will employment (which doesn't even apply where you have a contract) because of a growing body of case law. The UK has moved toward a more European standard, but that's all moot here because the son is not going to sue the father over termination, and the son achieves nothing good by firing the staffer.

I don't think you can fire him. You'll subject yourself to some form of libel.

Libel is slander in print. LIBros, LIBrary, LIBel. Would apply if the OP had written a magazine article, book or influential letter alleging untrue things about the staffer.

 

[D_Andreas Sukov]

it would be slander not libel

 

[gurjeevan]

look people.. Most of you have the situation Wrong. I had sex with My Dads Pa when i was 16 (the legal age of concent) and she was a little older. This time the issue was the photocopying room and the sucurity tape issue. I Have Solved that I pay the System Tech Guy Who i know From Warwick To Hack and wipe the remote server for that day. So Problem solved, and if that Site service guy says anything he can't prove it, and although nothing can happen to him for being dishonest it will highlight his manipulative nature. He don't have the authorisation to copy on to DVD as i don't and i'm a director, and also i asked the IT guy and he said no he don't. so you knowww I won.

 

[gurjeevan]

And for the record it is not a small business there is alot of property on our books, 42% that we own, thats why i provide in house legal support, along with my team to the property that we own and the clients we manage for. Also there is nothing illegal about me fucking my GF- I do all of the time, but it's against corporate business ethics.

 

[gymfresh]

there is nothing illegal about me fucking my GF- I do all of the time, but it's against corporate business ethics.

I pay the System Tech Guy Who i know From Warwick To Hack and wipe the remote server for that day. So Problem solved

Am I the only one here who thinks the question of business ethics here is screwed up? What if that day's surveillance footage contains evidence of serious wrongdoing, like theft or bodily injury? Isn't the goal of surveillance to have an intact set of recordings, for insurance, in case of litigation?

Humping your girl is petty compared to paying someone off to subvert company records (which is what the daily footage is). Wow, I'm glad there's an ocean between me and the lawyers in that firm.

 

[gurjeevan]

Do you know what i'm Glad of The fact i get to keep my six figure salary , and as for any of that stuff like injury do you not think that as the Director of legal affairs they would not notfity me of a possible law suites, also i have an injury log emailed to me everyday. Also a stock check gets ran everyweek and the one for that week came up with 2 print cartiges missing. WOW i think we can take the hit!. Also if they do it again then we will know- so why do i care.