Wal-Mart is selling America's soul for less

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Wal-Mart sounds like the equivalent of Tesco in the UK. Apparently UK consumers spend £1 in every £8 in Tesco stores.

I've never had the pleasure of shopping at Wal-Mart, but I do get regular updates on the Wal-mart "shopping experience".

Apparently there is an abundance of tits and ass there?


it was a store founded on a man's connection to the customer then he died and his kids took a huge company and made it the leading retailer on earth. some how its evil that walmart puts people out of business but when the smaller companies do the same thing to other small companies its just business
 

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Interesting fact...Walmart throws away all of their left-over products

Believe me I'm no supporter of Wal-Mart but the laws relating to donating distressed or expired food vary from state to state so often everything is disposed of to avoid possible liability and litigation.
 

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Believe me I'm no supporter of Wal-Mart but the laws relating to donating distressed or expired food vary from state to state so often everything is disposed of to avoid possible liability and litigation.

I can understand this liability, but I really mean everything. They throw out tv's, dvd players, dish rags, you name it. My guess is it's cheaper than other alternatives
 

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some how its evil that walmart puts people out of business but when the smaller companies do the same thing to other small companies its just business

I'm not sure where you get your ideas about retailing, but on a micro level, I can assure you that the opposite is true. I worked in the furniture industry from 1983 til 2005 (with occasional small breaks), the majority of the time for very small, entrepreneurial concerns employing fewer than fifteen people. By their very nature, such companies have an inherent fragility about them, but for me the benefits of being part of a small team and having my voice heard (and responded to) far outweighed any risk of needing to find a new job.

These companies sell what's not available anywhere else, and therefore command a higher price due to very limited quantities both manufactured and sold. They also offer a level of service that is simply unavailable in larger chains. Much like their counterparts in the apparel industry, these are boutique sales environments. And much like clothing boutiques, they are frequently found in very close proximity to each other, forming districts which act as magnets for the larger populations which they serve.

These are not all necessarily high-end, either; I worked for several years for a small, two-store chain with a central location in W Massachusetts and another (where I worked) located in a cluster of similar shops in Cambridge, MA. Their bread-and-butter was inexpensive RTA (knockdown) veneered furniture made primarily in Denmark. The expensive rosewood executive suites were primarily used as display for catalog sales (a much smaller portion of the business due to lead times and pricing). Like all retailers everywhere we followed the good/better/best paradigm.

The sense of a magnet district increased the desirability of its location; other stores sold their goods, we sold ours. "Competition" as such was largely irrelevant: the greater the pool of retailers, the larger to pool of perspective customers. This seat-of-your-pants retailing is actually much more responsive to customers' needs than big-box types that purchase by the container a season or two in advance.

The issue isn't one of complementing such magnet districts so much as supplanting them. This not just kills smaller businesses but denies the customer base that responsiveness I spoke of in the paragraph above as well as a vastly diminished choice. Instead of the traditional good/better/best paradigm, the customer gets good and that's about it. It takes an extremely focused and exigent customer base to insist on higher quality when it means lengthy lead times and inevitably higher prices, and those markets are increasingly rare, because customers are trained to accept a banal expedient over a much more unusual exceptional.

The internet both helps and hurts in this regard, BTW. On the one hand, the internet can afford a highly knowledgeable customer choices previously unavailable in certain markets. On the other, it hurts brick-and-mortar retailers (with the huge overheads of real estate, staff, and inventory) when someone can view something, get professional-sales level information on a product, then shop online for the best price via merchants whose only overhead is a server, an internet connection and the ability to have a manufacturer/importer drop ship directly to the customer.
 

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The High Cost of Low Prices was okay, but if you really want to see a great story on Wal-Mart watch the PBS Frontline "Is Wal-Mart Good for America" episode. it's on Netflix or you can stream it HERE. ...and 100x better the one you watched. It's the reason I completely stopped shopping at Wal-Mart.

Also watch Penn & Teller's Bullshit episode on Wal-Mart for a good opposing view on the subject.
 
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Blame the programs in place that give assistance to low income people.

And what would you have? Starving children? Children with no health care?

If the state governments feel that Walmart is taking advantage of them they should file legal actions against them.

Right right. Government is owned by private industry. Every two years voters are given the illusion they are in charge. But that's a fucking myth.
 
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I am happy to say I have only been to WalMart four times and I have never bought anything from them. Once was just to watch the Americans with my daughter. Kind of a culture fieldtrip.

I fully agree with your points about the company. It profits by getting the people to consume the cheapest badly made crap which actually puts the well being of their own communities at risk.

I wonder how many years it will be before WalMart is opening stores in China with cheap goods made in low-wage places like... Ohio.
I was working in Shenzen [China] last year and saw a Huge Wallmart. Realy blew my mind. All true re Wallmart shows up, everything shuts down. Now they are trying to move into Africa by making an offer on Checkers/Makro, a very successfull South African chain which have major African penetration right throughout the continent. So there goes the next domino.
 

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I will pay extra in order to not shop at Wal mart. I may save money in the short run by buying their cheap crap, but in the long run I'm fucking my neighbors out of a job and I won't do that.

All your neighbors work at Walmart.
 

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The staggering amount of Wal-Mart commercials being shown to promote how people grew from within the company gets to me. It wasn't long ago that this company's business practices were under heavy scrutiny. PBS - STORE WARS: Wal-Mart Business Practices

Forbes magazine, polling business executives (not employees) has ranked Wal-Mart among the best 100 corporations to work for. Yet the employees on average take home pay of under $250 a week. The salary for full-time employees (called "associates") is $6 to $7.50 an hour for 28-40 hours a week, which is typical in the discount retail industry. This pay scale places employees with families below the poverty line, with the majority of employees' children qualifying for free lunch at school. When closely examined, this amounts to a form of corporate welfare, as the taxpayer subsidizes the low salaries.

Whereas Wal-Mart employees start at the same salary as unionized employees in similar lines of work, they make 25 percent less than their unionized counterparts after two years at the job. The rapid turnover - 70 percent of employees leave within the first year - is attributed to a lack of recognition and inadequate pay, according to a survey Wal-Mart conducted.

Full-time employees are eligible for benefits, but the health insurance package is so expensive (employees pay 35 percent - almost double the national average) that less than half opt to buy it.


Kinda explains why some people would rather stay on Unemployment, eh? That has a top benefit of $405 a week, unlike the $250/wk you make working your butt off at this retail store. Sadly, with so many people with blindly negative opinions about people on welfare and government assistance, they would rather see them "get off their lazy butts" and get one of these jobs just for the sake of having one. I don't know many people who would intentionally take a job that pays this less unless there were absolutely no other options.
 

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Wall*Mart is a bully that makes money off of cheap foreighn labor -- plain and simple. It exported millions and millions of jobs overseas and yet flies an American flag at the entrance way of its stores? Are you kidding?

All, and then there are the jobs that Americans just won't do. It's already been for a few decades now that we can't pick fruit or milk cows anymore; those jobs must filled by Mexicans or other Latin Americans. So who do we think we are nowadays? It's news to me that beggars can be choosers, but again, I reckon you can be so if you're importing employees.

Neither the rich white farmer nor Wal*Malt is interested in strengthening America economically and giving "real" jobs to its people -- not in the least. They take and take and give nothing back to our land (except those "always low" prices). And then they act all conservative and patriotic to make us feel as if they're the American people's best friend, even in the toughest of times.

Don't be duped, people, don't be duped. Greed is killing our nation.
Rich white farmer? I don't know any in my area. They are working their arses off and not making much headway. There are also many Japanese and Mexican farm owners here in California and they employ the same program that those 'rich white farmers' do. Also, it's been more than just a few decades that we have been importing workers to do our dirty work. The slaves, then the Chinese to build the railroads, then Japanese came to work the fields, and when they were interened during WW2, that's when the Mexicans came.

I can guarantee you wouldn't last an hour picking strawberrys at even 3 times the wages being paid now to immigrants. Would the consumer be willing to pay for the increase in wages and the decrease in productivity by hiring 'american' workers to pick the fields? The problem is not the farmer, it's the consumer and people like you who love to blame everyone else, especially 'rich white people' for their problems. You are as much a part of the equation as anyone else.

Clueless people sitting behind their keyboards thinking they know all the answers are the most ignorant people of all.
 

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A lot of people think they are too good to shop at Walmart.