wanna work for a living? well, the government says FUCK YOU

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$2.10 was the wage for waitstaff TWENTY-FIVE FUCKING YEARS AGO when I was doing it and the regular minimum wage was $3.25. It made sense then, today it's an abhorently low wage.

I love how these fucktards can claim to have a political posture, it's just greed, plain and simple. People who work for minimum wage do FAR more work than those assholes collecting 170k at OUR expense, it's disgusting and will eventually lead to a class war (which we'll lose since THEY have the guns).
 

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madame_zora said:
which we'll lose since THEY have the guns

Guns have been overcome by popular resistance with the right organization and program.

Call me an optimist, ha ha.
 

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Matthew said:
Guns have been overcome by popular resistance with the right organization and program.

Call me an optimist, ha ha.


Well yeah, but you forget the part about being willing to be killed and not fight back. That sucks.
 

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So, they refuse to raise the federal minimum wage from $5.15 per hour while simultaneously doling out tax cuts to the upper 5% of incomes (and blaming immigrant labor for lower wages). Sounds like the compassionate conservatives in the administration and Congress are back doing what they do best.
 

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SpeedoGuy said:
So, they refuse to raise the federal minimum wage from $5.15 per hour while simultaneously doling out tax cuts to the upper 5% of incomes (and blaming immigrant labor for lower wages). Sounds like the compassionate conservatives in the administration and Congress are back doing what they do best.
Right-o, SG. Believe it or not, the reasoning that they put forth for these tax cuts for the upper echelon is "with a small tax break, they will spend more, putting more money back into the dynamic economy, which will create jobs and provide more opportunities for those in the lower echelons." Except the big problem with that theory is: Duh, how do you think they stay in the upper echelons, by getting rid of the money they have? I seriously doubt that paying less in taxes is going to affect the actual spending habits of your average millionaire. Those tax breaks, in what seems logical to me, actually do the opposite of the intent - less money into the economy. Does anyone honestly believe that if Derek Jeter or Bill Gates paid $80,000 less in taxes this year that either one would automatically spend $80,000 more? No, his accountant simply puts that additional $80,000 into his portfolio.

And for those who don't know, $170,000 is BASE PAY. Before perks. You really should look it up to know what's going on with congressional pay. Especially what taxes they (or don't) pay, their health care coverage, and their housing allowances... plus office operating expenses, entertainment allowances, travel benefits... there's a pretty long list. And that doesn't even take into consideration the ones who are in tight with deep-pocketed lobbyists.

Cadet, I don't know your age or location, but your post tells me volumes about you. Not so long ago, I was a public school teacher, making a whopping 18K first year, 20k second year (and that only because there was some legislation during my first year). It was TOUGH. The hours were long... including in-class time, plus out-of-class preparation, it was about 12 to 14 hours a day. On that little pay, I could barely pay rent and utilities, let alone sock away a sizeable savings account. When I wanted to go back to school, I discovered that (???) due to my staggeringly huge income, I did not qualify for financial aid. I didn't have time to work a second job. I couldn't just quit work and go to school full time. None of the colleges nearby offered the post-grad classes I needed at night... all the night classes were for undergraduate programs. So, Cadet, how would you suggest someone in that situation move up in the world?
 
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Just some thoughts on the issue :

1. Min. Wage ~ As much as I agree the 5.15 ans hour is bullshit for anybody trying to live past college, I don't know if want to trust the government with any issue of my income, it just seems they have a habit of fucking up everything that they touch, no matter who is elected ...

2 2nd Min.Wage ~ I don't know if it had been posted, but where I live in SC, the min wage for waiters & waitresses was only applied if their tip out did not equal what it would have been say when the 2nd min. & tip were combined (If 5.15 > 2.30+(tip out, then they get the 5.15 for waht they've worked.)

3. Congressoinal Wages ~ Two words on this issue : FUCK CONGRESS (looks for FBI) With so called "Conservatives" in the control of congress (... and presidency ...) we've spent more money than ever before and gone further into debt than ever before My opinion is that they need to leave washington (not neccessarily permenatly but for a few, yesss .. ) Part of the reason I think they are so out of touch with real america is that they stay rapped up in their D.C. egotrips and forget about the purpose ...

Rant over ...
 

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Hmmm... everyone seems to think that social issues, such as same gender marriage, should be put in the hands of the majority (historically proven to be a bad idea) and no one has come up with the idea of demanding that congressional pay go up for a popular vote. "one of these things, is not like the other one... one of these things, doesn't belong..." anyone remember that old song?
 

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horribleperson said:
a bunch of rich guys made this country and they will always run it. if you dont believe me then just take a look at the tax code and how many loop holes favor the rich (All them) and how many favor all you poor bastards (none).

You poor bastards?....so you're one of the rich guys then?:tongue:
 

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Dr Rock said:
not when their mangled, tarred corpses are hanging in gibbets on capitol hill, they won't

Which is gonig to happen when?

When Osama Bin Laden successfully invades america with a bunch of [seudo-religious nut jobs on the back of pickup trucks carrying AK-47s?

The rich rule the world, the rich like it that way, the average man has no real power, and it isnt going to change.
 

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SomeGuyOverThere said:
The rich rule the world, the rich like it that way, the average man has no real power, and it isnt going to change.

History has shown that at times it can in fact change.

Sadly, not yet for good.
 

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dong20 said:
I'll put the tar on to melt, you pluck the chickens, Dr. Rock can build the gibbets...:rolleyes:

Why did I initially see the phrase "melted butter on chicken giblets" when I first read this sentence? :rolleyes: