Wanting kids is a deal breaker for me, luckily my wife feels the same way, I am from a large family the 2nd eldest of 7 so right up until I left home there was alway a crying baby in the house, we did dicuss it and agreed to leave it for a few years after we were married, we left it 10 years before we talked about it again, and if at that point my wife wanted kids then we would have split up, but after 10 years of just pleasing ourselves, 2 good holidays a year, a good job each and enjoying life, there was no way we where going to give all that up to look after kids - but what really makes us mad is the sanctimonious crap we get from parents & the church all about the "universal love" we are all supposed to have towards all children, - yes I understand they are your little darlings and you would do anything for them, but please do not expect the same from me ( I don't inflict my dogs on you, which are generally much better behaved and cuter than your kid, and house trained!)