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^ Congress writes the tax code. Paul Ryan's new budget claims to close $700 billion in unspecified(of course) tax loopholes.
It's the concept of effective vs. statutory that is important. Which hasn't changed. Nor has the dishonesty of public hand-wringing over the statutory rate when all non-children understand that, in practice, our corporations often pay very little in taxes. E.g., General Electric paying zero dollars last year.
So, I call bullshit on your thread.
Who creates jobs? Not government. R
When they put one to death with the needle here in Texas then I'll believe they are people too.
Huuum what are teachers and police and firefighters?
But far more interesting a join date of 2006 and zero posts until now? What gives? A new sleeper cell is now awake? Or a banned member is now back under a new identity?
Fair enough. I joined and lurked. I never posted until yesterday, because having had a corporate aviation career I still didn't feel comfortable about posting in a large penis forum. I decided since I am now retired who gives a shit?
A society needs teachers and it needs firefighters, but they are not a large enough career field to solve unemployment. What made America prosperous was manufacturing-a lot of factory jobs and people in the office to manage them. We lost that.
All that is meaningless without an infrastructure which private enterprise has no desire to foot the bill.
WHAT A JOKE, actually this transcends any idea of idiotic.
Anyone with a hint of intelligence knows that almost ALL the corporations either pay no fukin taxes AT ALL and more egregiously, they receive REFUNDS!
American Consumers make them wealthy and give them record profits and the less fortunate that depend on corporate tax revenue, but sadly they don't even know this, ARE GETTING SCREWED !!!!!
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"In response to recent criticism of tax loopholes for the oil industry, Exxon said it has paid nearly $59 billion in U.S. taxes over the past five years, including $9.8 billion last year."
Exxon pushes back on gas price anger as profits soar - Apr. 28, 2011
"In 2010 Shell paid more than $15 billion in corporate taxes and we collected more than $80 billion in excise duties and sales taxes on our fuel and other products on behalf of governments. And that does not include the royalties, payroll, property and other taxes that we pay."
Shell and corporate tax | Shell Worldwide
What The Top U.S. Companies Pay In Taxes - Forbes.com
Soooooo... Who is being idiotic?
Wow, I don't think anyone here believes that Exxon and Shell are poor, oppressed corporations who have been impoverished and made less competitive by U.S. corporate tax rates. Rhetoric FAIL.
The majority of corporations do pay taxes. If all our corporations didn't have to pay taxes as is ranted over and over in here, our government would collapse. Individual taxpayers do not pay enough taxes to cover our massive spending addiction. Even taxing the 1% more, who already pay the most, will do nothing to reduce our deficit simply because they are not the majority bread winners.
GE used their "Green" programs, about 500 fulltime tax attorneys, lobbyists, and their relationship with President Obama to pay no taxes. Lobbyists and special interest groups primarily work for "non profits" who pay in zero tax dollars. All politicians are guilty of giving special perks to those who contribute to their election campaigns. Remember the healthcare waivers that were issued for all the unions? These are the people who create the loopholes that you are unfairly targeting corporations for.
The majority of business do pay taxes and they pay all kinds of taxes. They also pay salaries. They pay federal and state taxes on every employee. They pay SS and Medicare on every employee. They pay unemployment insurance on every employee. They cover mileage. Many pay for, or contribute to, employee healthcare and 401K plans.
They pay for business licenses and shell out start up cash. They pay for federal, state and local business mandates. They need office space, office equipment, cleaning staff, parking spaces. They pay for conferences, certifications, personal development, electricity and gas. Some even offer to cover college classes. They pay sick time, over time, maternity leave. The list goes on and on.
Saying corporations suck and are the worst thing in America is nothing more than a personal opinion by people who have no idea what it really means to own and operate a business. People built this country by working and opening small business. Corporations ARE made up of people. In this day and age, any that are lucky to grow and survive seem to be attacked constantly for exisiting.
Instead of creating laws to punish the successful businesses, which drive up the cost of everything we like, we need to reduce big brother breathing down their necks and get over the unfair opinion people have of them.
Teachers, police and fireman do not make up the majority of the working population (all union employees). Federal, state and local employees (all unions) are growing and bankrupting cities across the nation.
It isn't the local record store or Starbucks that is our problem. It's lobbyists, special interest groups and big labor unions that are. It's lifetime politicians who pay no social security and never have to actually be held accountable for the laws they pass and perks they give. If you really want to see real change happen, these are the groups who you should focus your energy on.
The majority of corporations do pay taxes. If all our corporations didn't have to pay taxes as is ranted over and over in here, our government would collapse. Individual taxpayers do not pay enough taxes to cover our massive spending addiction. Even taxing the 1% more, who already pay the most, will do nothing to reduce our deficit simply because they are not the majority bread winners.
GE used their "Green" programs, about 500 fulltime tax attorneys, lobbyists, and their relationship with President Obama to pay no taxes. Lobbyists and special interest groups primarily work for "non profits" who pay in zero tax dollars. All politicians are guilty of giving special perks to those who contribute to their election campaigns. Remember the healthcare waivers that were issued for all the unions? These are the people who create the loopholes that you are unfairly targeting corporations for.
The majority of business do pay taxes and they pay all kinds of taxes. They also pay salaries. They pay federal and state taxes on every employee. They pay SS and Medicare on every employee. They pay unemployment insurance on every employee. They cover mileage. Many pay for, or contribute to, employee healthcare and 401K plans.
They pay for business licenses and shell out start up cash. They pay for federal, state and local business mandates. They need office space, office equipment, cleaning staff, parking spaces. They pay for conferences, certifications, personal development, electricity and gas. Some even offer to cover college classes. They pay sick time, over time, maternity leave. The list goes on and on.
Saying corporations suck and are the worst thing in America is nothing more than a personal opinion by people who have no idea what it really means to own and operate a business. People built this country by working and opening small business. Corporations ARE made up of people. In this day and age, any that are lucky to grow and survive seem to be attacked constantly for exisiting.
Instead of creating laws to punish the successful businesses, which drive up the cost of everything we like, we need to reduce big brother breathing down their necks and get over the unfair opinion people have of them.
Teachers, police and fireman do not make up the majority of the working population (all union employees). Federal, state and local employees (all unions) are growing and bankrupting cities across the nation.
It isn't the local record store or Starbucks that is our problem. It's lobbyists, special interest groups and big labor unions that are. It's lifetime politicians who pay no social security and never have to actually be held accountable for the laws they pass and perks they give. If you really want to see real change happen, these are the groups who you should focus your energy on.