We are programs: Everything is connected to survival of the species.

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  1. B_superlarge

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    We are survival programs. Almost everything we say and do is a result of that programming, either directly or indirectly. There are exceptions, and those exceptions are deemed as bad and punishable, or labeled as wierd, in society because our programming indicates it interferes, or has the potential to interfere, with our species survival.

    Agree?
     
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    I do actually.
     
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    i'm actually a program that was sent back in time to kill john connor and ensure the demise of the human race. Sorry guys.
     
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    We are alive just to reproduce? We are programmed to survive? Such expanations for our world seem so cold, calculated and shallow.
     
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    If I may say so, that ruled
     
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    it's not a tumor
     
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    It is what it is. Your negative reaction is a natural one, for if we don't decorate it up in our minds then our existence could appear less meaningful and that may threaten our existence.
     
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    Honestlly, that's nothing but a scientific explanation for the world, a propaganda of biology if you will, one narrow view of how everything "should be." There are many ways to view the world besides scientifically. The world is biology, biology is not the world.
     
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    I have certainly read this explanation a few times, in a few books, on being The bit and the pendulum, the physics of information

    I mean, it is certainly true. There is no denying that our DNA is a kernal program, that gets modified by our environment.
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    I used to believe that, then I fell in love. :redface:
     
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    Love isn't a part of the survival mode?
     
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    I was waiting for you to explain love in a scientific way.
     
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    How does my being lazy and liking to sleep in on Sundays play into the survival programming that will advance our species survival?
     
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    I am not sure why this seems so scientific to some people. It is quite esoteric, especially when one considers exactly what a program and infromation actually is.

    To say that we are a core program that reacts to our environment does not even mean we do not have free will. However, even without any social interaction, children will still take on the personality traits of their parents.
     
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    Any non-scientific view of the world is just an opinion - although it may be good and interesting, it won't necessarily be right.
    Science is often seen as so 'uncool' or 'cold', which is a shame because all it really is is the search for the truth about how things work. Isn't the truth more important than some made up story that makes you feel good?
     
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    You have bought into scientific thought so much that even when you are trying to express yourself unscientifically or "esoteric," as you say, you are expressings yourself in a structured, cold, calculated way. You, sir, have bought the entire farm and livestock. Most of the western world thinks like you anyway, but is it right? Hell no.
     
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    But the brain also happens to be the most mysterious organ of the human body. Science really has nothing on it.

    Another itneresting theory I have read, that I really like, and makes alot of sense, is all of our DNA is a memory, and that the genes you pass on are actually memories. THis would mean, yes, your brain is controlling what goes in your sperm/egg. It would sound audacious, except that everything in your body, is controlled by your hormones, which is controlled by your brain.

    It's part of the mystery of the parts making up the whole, and the whole being made up of parts.... individual neurons, each with their own unique DNA fingerprint.

    In time, as technology progresses, we may be able to reconstruct entire brains through the DNA of all the individual neurons. The pace of technology continues to double, and Moores law has yet to stop.

    If we could reconstruct entire brains, then we could reconstruct entire memory sets. If we could reconstruct entire memory sets, it brings up some interesting philosphical questions about what exactly is consciousness, and what makes someone exist?
     
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    And how would you know whether it is right, or wrong?
    Can you see the forest through your own trees?

    P.S. speaking of western thought, some other books I have read recently are The Web that has no weaver, an introduction to chinese medicine, The tao te ching, and The yellow Emporers Classic of Internal Medicine.

    They are a fascinating look at an alternative view of biology.

    For example, ask a doctor what organ produces heat in the body.
    An eastern doctor will tell you, its the "triple burner".
     
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    This is a false dilemma. When you say non-scientific, you are grouping everything that is not science into another single catagory, the other. To you, everything catagorized as the other must have the same value, an "opinion," as you say, that is equal all the way around when compared side-by-side with science. You place the label opinion on everything that is "unscientific." You present the world as either scientific or non-scientific, one or the other, and you are wrong to do so. When you think "uncool" or coldly, or unhuman, if you will, you present something that must have a direct opposite, and not only does a something have an opposite, the opposite is automatically accepted as the "bad," the "negative," the thing you want to hold down, and the something presented is then the "good," the "progress," the truth." That is the way of Western scientific thought.
     
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