We gave Israel the means and support to commit genocide
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Well, I was being sarcastic, evidently.
For your kind, the most gory massacre of 1,000,000 Muslims by other Muslims would never be nearly as interesting and exploitable as 1 accidental death of a Gaza civilian by any Isreali source.
...so why bother trying to reason with your kind...
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''your kind'' --- that sounds very open-minded. I fail to see why anyone would waste time responding to this type of ad hominem post.
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from aljazerra
a UNICEF spokes woman states up to 400-000 Palestinian youngsters need
the SUPPORT of Psychologists right now...
an article stating that one local Psychologist who would normally be
assisting them, has his own family deaths to deal with
Unicef a arm of the UN has ,minimal finances or resources to assist
SHAME on the lot of them ..
from aljazerra
a UNICEF spokes woman states up to 400-000 Palestinian youngsters need
the SUPPORT of Psychologists right now...
an article stating that one local Psychologist who would normally be
assisting them, has his own family deaths to deal with
Unicef a arm of the UN has ,minimal finances or resources to assist
SHAME on the lot of them ..
And as diligent Zionist parents ready their children for the upcoming school year, where they will be further indoctrinated into the militarized, victim hood of Zionist Society, they will sit captive and listen as IDF PR people brainwash them about security and future Wars and Duty. Yes 400,000 children in Gaza will be sharing their schools with other homeless Palestinians, with the stench of raw sewage and garbage perminating their senses
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Getting back to Spring 1948 in "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine" by Illan Pappe';
..After the British had left Palestine in charge of the UN, the Palestinian people treated this as another, "..Meet the New Boss! Same as the Old Boss!" Since many times in the past had Palestine changed rulers. Ben Gurion sent out scouts to selected Palestian cities and villages to get a sense of what the people were feeling. The scouts reported back that these people were in a state of Normality, not expecting any change in their lifestyle, even though they were about to be forced off their properties and didn't know it.
This troubled Ben Gurion and his consultancy becUse now they would have to make up another excuse for attacking the Palestinians. Instead of retaliatory attacks and defending themselves, the new Zionist storyline would be one of initiating a plan, taking the battle to them instead of waiting. (How recent famiar does this plan sound?)
Oppisite the Palestians Normalcy, were the self-labelled Zionist, settler/victims, ever expecting the next attack, converting the settlements into Fortress' preparing and arming everyone for "defending their new homeland"
..After the British had left Palestine in charge of the UN, the Palestinian people treated this as another, "..Meet the New Boss! Same as the Old Boss!" Since many times in the past had Palestine changed rulers. Ben Gurion sent out scouts to selected Palestian cities and villages to get a sense of what the people were feeling. The scouts reported back that these people were in a state of Normality, not expecting any change in their lifestyle, even though they were about to be forced off their properties and didn't know it.
This troubled Ben Gurion and his consultancy becUse now they would have to make up another excuse for attacking the Palestinians. Instead of retaliatory attacks and defending themselves, the new Zionist storyline would be one of initiating a plan, taking the battle to them instead of waiting. (How recent famiar does this plan sound?)
Oppisite the Palestians Normalcy, were the self-labelled Zionist, settler/victims, ever expecting the next attack, converting the settlements into Fortress' preparing and arming everyone for "defending their new homeland"
What boobalaa writes is sad but true - the documentary by yoav sharim is very interesting. In special about the schoolclass visiting poland. The security guard tells them, everyone hates israel, dont leave the hotel its a live threat, once a whole class got slaughtered by noe-nazis...
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation_(film)
http://youtu.be/lB-WcNVE4KU
Http://youtu.be/c5jsiLWXGYQ
(These links arent about the schoolclass)
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation_(film)
http://youtu.be/lB-WcNVE4KU
Http://youtu.be/c5jsiLWXGYQ
(These links arent about the schoolclass)
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I remember an IDF General as saying that the policy was to kill the children until the mothers stopped the fathers from fighting. An interesting genetic approach, but clearly now the wrong one.
The world sees people who have nothing, living in what looks like a refugee camp being pummeled by one of the world's most sophisticated military. It is the wrong tactic for Israel in my opinion. If Hamas is the enemy, then we would expect Israel to have the capability to target Hamas and their fighters.
Hi..
I dont know who that General who said that.. I know that on thing like that u go to jail in Israel.
And for now around 1800 plaesinian dead.. Almoat 1000 are hamas guys.
Belive me that the percent of inoccent ppl that died is way lower then When usa fight vs al Qaeda or dresden.
And no country have to fight against terror orgenistion that Lunch rucket from from or from hospital.
I realy Belive that israel doing Every thing posible to kiled Only hamas and on civilens.
In both cases "the curse" was simple wrong and in no way part of the curse...
To bomb dresden didnt helped in any way to end the war faster. Germany already was beaten.
Dresden only was good to keep the airforce bussy.
Same counts for the nuclear bombing.
To stop the war, the usa could have offered japan to keep their emperor. The usa refused to offer it till the end.
Also, japan surrendered a day after russia declaired japan the war.
The goal of the nuclear attack was to test the bomb and to keep russia out of the war.
And in the same way acts israel today - if they would run serious negotiations, they could stop the war.
But their current atracks are only good to please their clients, not to stop a war.
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This is in no way an arguement... i would love to see, how you write hebrew.
Excuse me, didn't realize you were using a translator..
It's difficult to argue ad hominem accusations of Hypocrisy based on your rejection on the basis of some irrelevant facts about me and my posts where I have given my source of information.
My source of information is an Israeli who wasn't exactly asked to leave Israel, but.." Pappé said that he found it "increasingly difficult to live in Israel" with his "unwelcome views and convictions." In a Qatari newspaper interview explaining his decision, he said: "I was boycotted in my university and there had been attempts to expel me from my job. I am getting threatening calls from people every day. I am not being viewed as a threat to the Israeli society but my people think that I am either insane or my views are irrelevant. Many Israelis also believe that I am working as a mercenary for the Arabs."
In 1999, Pappé ran in the Knesset elections as seventh on the Communist Party-led Hadash list.[23] After years of political activism, Pappé supports economic and political boycotts of Israel, including an academic boycott. He believes boycotts are justified because "the Israeli occupation is a dynamic process and it becomes worse with each passing day. The AUT can choose to stand by and do nothing, or to be part of a historical movement similar to the anti-apartheid campaign against the white supremacist regime in South Africa. By choosing the latter, it can move us forward along the only remaining viable and non-violent road to saving both Palestinians and Israelis from an impending catastrophe."
If it is possible Israel's conduct in 1948 would be brought onto the stage of international tribunals; this may deliver a message even to the peace camp in Israel that reconciliation entails recognition of war crimes and collective atrocities. This cannot be done from within, as any reference in the Israeli press to expulsion, massacre or destruction in 1948 is usually denied and attributed to self hate and service to the enemy in times of war. This reaction encompasses academia, the media and educational system, as well as political circles.
As a result, University of Haifa President Aharon Ben-Ze'ev called on Pappé to resign, saying: "it is fitting for someone who calls for a boycott of his university to apply the boycott himself." He said that Pappé would not be ostracized, since that would undermine academic freedom, but he should leave voluntarily. In the same year, Pappé initiated the annual Israeli Right of return conferences, which called for the unconditional right of return of the Palestinian refugees who were expelled in 1948
It's difficult to argue ad hominem accusations of Hypocrisy based on your rejection on the basis of some irrelevant facts about me and my posts where I have given my source of information.
My source of information is an Israeli who wasn't exactly asked to leave Israel, but.." Pappé said that he found it "increasingly difficult to live in Israel" with his "unwelcome views and convictions." In a Qatari newspaper interview explaining his decision, he said: "I was boycotted in my university and there had been attempts to expel me from my job. I am getting threatening calls from people every day. I am not being viewed as a threat to the Israeli society but my people think that I am either insane or my views are irrelevant. Many Israelis also believe that I am working as a mercenary for the Arabs."
In 1999, Pappé ran in the Knesset elections as seventh on the Communist Party-led Hadash list.[23] After years of political activism, Pappé supports economic and political boycotts of Israel, including an academic boycott. He believes boycotts are justified because "the Israeli occupation is a dynamic process and it becomes worse with each passing day. The AUT can choose to stand by and do nothing, or to be part of a historical movement similar to the anti-apartheid campaign against the white supremacist regime in South Africa. By choosing the latter, it can move us forward along the only remaining viable and non-violent road to saving both Palestinians and Israelis from an impending catastrophe."
If it is possible Israel's conduct in 1948 would be brought onto the stage of international tribunals; this may deliver a message even to the peace camp in Israel that reconciliation entails recognition of war crimes and collective atrocities. This cannot be done from within, as any reference in the Israeli press to expulsion, massacre or destruction in 1948 is usually denied and attributed to self hate and service to the enemy in times of war. This reaction encompasses academia, the media and educational system, as well as political circles.
As a result, University of Haifa President Aharon Ben-Ze'ev called on Pappé to resign, saying: "it is fitting for someone who calls for a boycott of his university to apply the boycott himself." He said that Pappé would not be ostracized, since that would undermine academic freedom, but he should leave voluntarily. In the same year, Pappé initiated the annual Israeli Right of return conferences, which called for the unconditional right of return of the Palestinian refugees who were expelled in 1948
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U undersand that im living now in Israel?
This is my life?
U undersand that i undr rucket threat right now??
The seas fire was until Todey ay 8.
The hamas fire rucket in 4-30.
Can u undersand that the hamas dont like to talk??
Can u undersand that until 11 israel not fire even once?
Againnnnn we (israel) dont like to destroy The plaesinian.
We like to destroy hamas.
We Just went pease And quite.
And Btw,Probably you older then me, and Probably you think you smarter then me, and you know whet? Maybe you are.. But Thats dosent meen you know Every thing about my country.
I wish you all the Best.
This is my life?
U undersand that i undr rucket threat right now??
The seas fire was until Todey ay 8.
The hamas fire rucket in 4-30.
Can u undersand that the hamas dont like to talk??
Can u undersand that until 11 israel not fire even once?
Againnnnn we (israel) dont like to destroy The plaesinian.
We like to destroy hamas.
We Just went pease And quite.
And Btw,Probably you older then me, and Probably you think you smarter then me, and you know whet? Maybe you are.. But Thats dosent meen you know Every thing about my country.
I wish you all the Best.
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I do know That I do not Know everything about your country; but I do know that generations of Israeli school children have been brought up to believe that Arabs hate them because they are Jewish...and have not been told the truth about 1948!!
YOU CAN LIVE YOUR LIFE! MAKE YOUR OWN CHOICE..EDUCATE YOURSELF..
I do know that generations have been brought up to believe that ONLY THE ISRAELIS Government and ARMY know what is best for ISRAEL and the rest of the World does not need to get involved. Israel ALONE has a right to say who their enemies are and when and where they can fight their wars and when they can stop fighting their wars.
EXCEPT FOR ONE BIG FACT..That is never, and will never be taught to Israeli school children..WITHOUT THE USA, ISRAEL WOULD BE JUST ANOTHER COUNTRY..There are more Zionist living in the USA than live in Israel! MONEY and only MONEY is the only ONE BIG THING ..FOREIGN AID..The USA gives Israel billions, Israel spends it on Weapons made in USA. Israel uses these weapons against the Palestinian people..
Does HAMAS have F-16's, Apache Helicopters, Tanks?..
I can understand HAMAS wasn't asked to talk..All the deals have been between Egypt, The USA and Israel
When you get in a fight with someone and then want to m ake peace..You talk with the person you want peace with..NOT with the people you already have peace with..
AGAIN ..Your whole frame of reference is WARPED!! Your leaders have constantly used the same Crocodile Tears excuse for the last 67 years!!
It's called Chutzpah..shameless audacity; impudence
It's fucking Bullshit..
YOU CAN LIVE YOUR LIFE! MAKE YOUR OWN CHOICE..EDUCATE YOURSELF..
I do know that generations have been brought up to believe that ONLY THE ISRAELIS Government and ARMY know what is best for ISRAEL and the rest of the World does not need to get involved. Israel ALONE has a right to say who their enemies are and when and where they can fight their wars and when they can stop fighting their wars.
EXCEPT FOR ONE BIG FACT..That is never, and will never be taught to Israeli school children..WITHOUT THE USA, ISRAEL WOULD BE JUST ANOTHER COUNTRY..There are more Zionist living in the USA than live in Israel! MONEY and only MONEY is the only ONE BIG THING ..FOREIGN AID..The USA gives Israel billions, Israel spends it on Weapons made in USA. Israel uses these weapons against the Palestinian people..
Does HAMAS have F-16's, Apache Helicopters, Tanks?..
I can understand HAMAS wasn't asked to talk..All the deals have been between Egypt, The USA and Israel
When you get in a fight with someone and then want to m ake peace..You talk with the person you want peace with..NOT with the people you already have peace with..
AGAIN ..Your whole frame of reference is WARPED!! Your leaders have constantly used the same Crocodile Tears excuse for the last 67 years!!
It's called Chutzpah..shameless audacity; impudence
It's fucking Bullshit..
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You give a Qatari newspaper article, same Qatar funded the Hamas tunnels whose sole purpose was to kill as many Israelis.
And one thing is important to understand, israel is real true democracy state.
Israel has Arab members of Knesset and there's even a Knesset member who writes a column on the Hamas website. Again, same hamas that fires rockets on Israel.
So believe me, the guy you mentioned will probably not forced to leave israel.
And one thing is important to understand, israel is real true democracy state.
Israel has Arab members of Knesset and there's even a Knesset member who writes a column on the Hamas website. Again, same hamas that fires rockets on Israel.
So believe me, the guy you mentioned will probably not forced to leave israel.
You're talking about things that are totally unrealistic.
Israeli children grow up thinking that Arabs hate them? Israel teach their children the values ​​of peace and brotherhood. You're so far from reality.
With all due respect and truly after your last comment about not to much.. Israel have a lot of the smartest people in the world. Nothing to do this it is a fact. Do you think the military really can influence them? And yes you right, without money and wappens from United States were not exist theHamas and Hezbollah and Syria and Iran were delete us long time ago.
Israeli children grow up thinking that Arabs hate them? Israel teach their children the values ​​of peace and brotherhood. You're so far from reality.
With all due respect and truly after your last comment about not to much.. Israel have a lot of the smartest people in the world. Nothing to do this it is a fact. Do you think the military really can influence them? And yes you right, without money and wappens from United States were not exist theHamas and Hezbollah and Syria and Iran were delete us long time ago.
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400,000 children in Gaza will be sharing their schools with other homeless Palestinians, with the stench of raw sewage and garbage perminating their senses
well Bb
i listened in disbelief re that UNICEF Womans plea, and i was thoroughly dismayed,haven't looked at a news item on that senseless conflict since
a pack of sub human animals, the way the supposed chosen ones treat others
i am of a belief certain persons are being indoctrinated, 'we are the chosen ones, we have suffered, never again, no matter what the cost, to others'
again damn shameful, on them ALL
they'd be digging tunnels to get food also, is what i believed the original intention was
dont expect an offering of a solution from me, all the Fn supposed wise people of the World out there!
well Bb
i listened in disbelief re that UNICEF Womans plea, and i was thoroughly dismayed,haven't looked at a news item on that senseless conflict since
a pack of sub human animals, the way the supposed chosen ones treat others
i am of a belief certain persons are being indoctrinated, 'we are the chosen ones, we have suffered, never again, no matter what the cost, to others'
again damn shameful, on them ALL
they'd be digging tunnels to get food also, is what i believed the original intention was
dont expect an offering of a solution from me, all the Fn supposed wise people of the World out there!
