We gave Israel the means and support to commit genocide

[Boobalaa]

How can you understand the present if you don't understand the past?
What is the correlation between teaching a child about Peace and Brotherhood and Compulsory Military Service? How many Peace Activists are members of the IDF? There are plenty former members of the IDF who are now Peace Activists.
Yes, Your Reality is different from mine, you literally live under an Iron Dome and in front of (or behind) miles and miles of 25 ft. High Security Barriers, Walls!
Peace and Brotherhood behind walls and under an Iron Dome?
Read your last sentence. Does that sound like someone who was brought up with an attitude of Peace and Brotherhood or victim hood, Hate and Shame?
How can you understand the present when you can't, won't learn from the past?
When was the last time an Israeli Prime Minister has offered a sincere apology besides an insolent , "We can forgive the Arabs for killing our children, We cannot forgive them for forcing us to kill their children . We will only have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us" Golda Mier.
What an arrogant, insolent attitude!!

 

[pini4404]

First of all I will tell you the most obvious way possible, its Hamas fault!
Unfortunately the war has harmed innocent civilians in Israel and plaesinian.
The difference between the leaders of Israel and Gaza is Israel's leadership is trying to protect its oun citizens compared to the leadership in Gaza (Hamas) who tries to harm Israel without investing doller in order to protect They oun citizens.
Something important that probably you do not want to understand, Israel's deliberate targeting in Hamas, IDF releases alot of videos showing how he directed shoting at terrorist and if there is citizens all around ihe cancel his attack. In contrast, Hamas aimed at civilian targets, he directly try to hit as many citizens as he can, the more the better.
I have never seen a war that the civilians did not lose in the end, in Israel and gaza. But Israel is not directed at civilians as compared to Hamas .. figure it out and you will understand everything.

 

[pini4404]

How can you understand the present if you don't understand the past?
What is the correlation between teaching a child about Peace and Brotherhood and Compulsory Military Service? How many Peace Activists are members of the IDF? There are plenty former members of the IDF who are now Peace Activists.
Yes, Your Reality is different from mine, you literally live under an Iron Dome and in front of (or behind) miles and miles of 25 ft. High Security Barriers, Walls!
Peace and Brotherhood behind walls and under an Iron Dome?

You want me to apologize that we have developed weapons to protect us from the ruckets ? Like I said, we are investing in protecting our oun citizens, Hamas invest in tunnels, rockets, weapons in order to attack Israel civilens .

 

[pini4404]

And about the the Security BarriersThe answer to the question is in the Qestion, it is safety wall!
Before this wall dozens of terrorists were sneaking into Israel and carry out suicide attacks.I want you to think about something, you'll see what we do to protect our citizens .. It really seems normal to you? Invest billions in technological developments and invest in a giant wall only to protect civilians? You just blind to the way in which you look at this conflict.

 

[pini4404]

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Watch this video please

 

[Boobalaa]

Apologize for stealing someone else's properties instead of a
Taking what is not yours and then when you have it. You whine and moan about taking it and keep repeating your mantra.
Ok it's Hamas' fault ok.. Now lift the SEIGE and help the Palestinians. Open a few border crossings so they can resume living like humans.
Ok it's Hamas' fault. Talk to Hamas, give them the Golda Mier apology Israeli style. Even better, Ask questions, show contrition, empathy, commiserate. Spread your arms open and show the world that Israel Brotherhood

 

[heirtothewind]

Distance lends serenity to the view. [Italian proverb]

Indeed, sitting in the USA where no bombs are falling, we have the luxury of discussing impassionately who is at fault in this war and its ethics. We have to cut the Palestinians and even the Israelis a little slack for being hard-line and uncompromising.

I think war crimes have been committed by both sides, but who can bring the war criminals to justice or enforce so-called international law except the side that wins the war.

 

[pini4404]

Apologize for stealing someone else's properties instead of a
Taking what is not yours and then when you have it. You whine and moan about taking it and keep repeating your mantra.
Ok it's Hamas' fault ok.. Now lift the SEIGE and help the Palestinians. Open a few border crossings so they can resume living like humans.
Ok it's Hamas' fault. Talk to Hamas, give them the Golda Mier apology Israeli style. Even better, Ask questions, show contrition, empathy, commiserate. Spread your arms open and show the world that Israel Brotherhood

You do not realize it's also what we want? Two states for two countrys .. we say it many years already.. the problem is that until there would be weapons demilitarization in Gaza, Israel will not let them build port that the port itself lead only weapons into Gaza. Even today, all of them including the United States and Egypt offered to just keep the cease-fire and a return to peace talks and what Hamas has done? Continued to fire on us! What Israel has done for seven hours? Nothing! Only after seven hours she responded.
Israel wants the best interests of the Palestinian citizens.
Belive me.

 

[Boobalaa]

Lift the siege! Here's a twist. Try Unilateral humanitarian Relief. Quit whining and then when you get your hand slapped, blame someone else. Turn your initiative inward. Do something to help the people on the other side of the wall.
Get out of your bomb shelter and start a relief effort on your street. Do something that makes you feel like you're helping. Show remorse that the governments of the USA and Israel expended so much weapons and bullets just so you could chat on the internet without having to smell someone else taking a crap a few feet away from you.

 

[Jason]

... Do something to help the people on the other side of the wall...

Israel is providing humanitarian aid for Gaza. In the last couple of days two cargo planes with medical supplies (from Italy and USA) landed at Tel Aviv and the supplies have been moved to Gaza. Funds, substantial funds, are being collected in Israel from Israelis to provide aid to Gaza and the supplies are being shipped.

The situation in Gaza is horrific and Israel should be doing more/better/something different - but this level of humanitarian support to an enemy is almost unprecedented.

 

[heirtothewind]

Israel is providing humanitarian aid for Gaza. In the last couple of days two cargo planes with medical supplies (from Italy and USA) landed at Tel Aviv and the supplies have been moved to Gaza. Funds, substantial funds, are being collected in Israel from Israelis to provide aid to Gaza and the supplies are being shipped.

The situation in Gaza is horrific and Israel should be doing more/better/something different - but this level of humanitarian support to an enemy is almost unprecedented.

I wonder why the USA is not doing the same. We are giving humanitarian aid to Iraq now. Oil, maybe.

 

[KTF40]

Keep in mind in Iraq we are supporting ethnic and religious minorities who are facing potential genocide by the hands of islamic extremists. The Gazans on the other hand elected islamic extremists who want to carry out genocide. I for one would not support such humanitarian efforts. They would kill people such as myself if given the chance so no reason to give them support.

 

[Boobalaa]

Keep in mind in Iraq we are supporting ethnic and religious minorities who are facing potential genocide by the hands of islamic extremists. The Gazans on the other hand elected islamic extremists who want to carry out genocide. I for one would not support such humanitarian efforts. They would kill people such as myself if given the chance so no reason to give them support.

We'll, with the biggest embassy in the world, a city within a city, I guess you'd expect nothing less, especially when the biggest embassy in the world is sitting next to the worlds second largest Oil Reserve. Obama talks about preventing genocide in an oil rich country while sending missiles to a nuclear country to "protect itself" besides all the F-16s, Apache Attack Helicopters, Cattipillar Bulldozers and front end loaders. So the USA is keeping Iraqis alive while helping Israelis kill more Palestinians

 

[KTF40]

We'll, with the biggest embassy in the world, a city within a city, I guess you'd expect nothing less, especially when the biggest embassy in the world is sitting next to the worlds second largest Oil Reserve. Obama talks about preventing genocide in an oil rich country while sending missiles to a nuclear country to "protect itself" besides all the F-16s, Apache Attack Helicopters, Cattipillar Bulldozers and front end loaders. So the USA is keeping Iraqis alive while helping Israelis kill more Palestinians

What's going on in Gaza by the Israelis defending themselves from thousands of rocket attacks is in no way similar to ISIS killing people in Iraq on the sole basis of their religion and ethnicity. Your attempts to compare the two are beyond ignorant.

 

[Boobalaa]

What's going on in Gaza by the Israelis defending themselves from thousands of rocket attacks is in no way similar to ISIS killing people in Iraq on the sole basis of their religion and ethnicity. Your attempts to compare the two are beyond ignorant.

Ignorance is bliss, and Irony is Devine .
The USA Military is supplying humanitarian aid to "religious minorities" in a country the USA antagonized and occupied on And off for 15 years. The Islamic State accumulated most of its arsenal from captured Iraqi forces supplied by the USA. So in Iraq one side with American made weapons is shooting at the other side who is receiving american humanitarian Aid...and did I mention they. Are sitting on top the 2nd largest oil reserve in the world? And, oh oh Obama mentioned there is no Military Solution in Iraq.
However, the Israelis have right to protect themselves by Any means necessary using weapons, and ammunition made in the US.

 

[KTF40]

Ignorance is bliss, and Irony is Devine .
The USA Military is supplying humanitarian aid to "religious minorities" in a country the USA antagonized and occupied on And off for 15 years. The Islamic State accumulated most of its arsenal from captured Iraqi forces supplied by the USA. So in Iraq one side with American made weapons is shooting at the other side who is receiving american humanitarian Aid...and did I mention they. Are sitting on top the 2nd largest oil reserve in the world? And, oh oh Obama mentioned there is no Military Solution in Iraq.
However, the Israelis have right to protect themselves by Any means necessary using weapons, and ammunition made in the US.

The most I can gather from this rebuttal is some odd attempt to connect ISIS using stolen American weapons to Israel using legally acquired US weapons as if that somehow equates the two entities. Which of course sounds illogical and unreasonable.

 

[ConanTheBarber]

Ignorance is bliss, and Irony is Devine .
The USA Military is supplying humanitarian aid to "religious minorities" in a country the USA antagonized and occupied on And off for 15 years. The Islamic State accumulated most of its arsenal from captured Iraqi forces supplied by the USA. So in Iraq one side with American made weapons is shooting at the other side who is receiving american humanitarian Aid...and did I mention they. Are sitting on top the 2nd largest oil reserve in the world? And, oh oh Obama mentioned there is no Military Solution in Iraq.
However, the Israelis have right to protect themselves by Any means necessary using weapons, and ammunition made in the US.

What do you mean by your reference to the Iraqi oil reserves?
Is it your contention that the U.S. is using or has ever used in recent years any significant amount of Iraqi oil?
Because they don't.
The entire Persian Gulf only provides about 13 percent of the oil that the U.S. imports. Less than 5 percent comes from Iraq.
If the U.S. needed Iraqi oil, why would they have supported the U.N. embargo against Iraqi oil that was put in place in 1990?
What you seem to be implying doesn't make sense.

 

[Boobalaa]

ok, if you say so..but there's no Oil in Palestine..and the USA is full of rich Zionist; or put another way, lots of Zionist hands are deep in the U.S. congress' pants; by the balls, as it were
Be here and now..1990?..because something happened in Kuwait that year didn't it..lol..sheesh
Only..only 13%..better than no%..less than 5% is better than no%
Better USA than China has first dibs, hunh
Whom ever controls the Oil, Controls the World..Didn't you ever play "Stratego"..c'mon now

 

[KTF40]

Better USA than China has first dibs, hunh
Whom ever controls the Oil, Controls the World

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/03/w...benefits-of-iraq-oil-boom.html?pagewanted=all

 

[ConanTheBarber]

ok, if you say so..but there's no Oil in Palestine..and the USA is full of rich Zionist; or put another way, lots of Zionist hands are deep in the U.S. congress' pants; by the balls, as it were
Be here and now..1990?..because something happened in Kuwait that year didn't it..lol..sheesh
Only..only 13%..better than no%..less than 5% is better than no%
Better USA than China has first dibs, hunh
Whom ever controls the Oil, Controls the World..Didn't you ever play "Stratego"..c'mon now

Some of your posts are reasonably lucid, but a great many of them, like the one above, simply defeat my efforts to comprehend whatever it is you hope to get at.