We support CBS for airing QB's Superbowl Ad

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It's in poor fucking taste and is a cheap shot at a woman's reproductive rights. It's all about making abortion illegal and taking a woman's rights away.

Nobody is condemning anything or anyone.

The above is not a condemnation it is a _______________ :confused:
 

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and therein lies the deceit. since all abortion is and was illegal in the Phillipines it is beyond doubtful any doctor would recommend one.

What if she spoke to an American Doctor or a doc from Doctors Without Boarders or even a local doctor who knew that she could obtain emergency aid elsewhere? It isn't beyond the realm of thought that Mrs. Tebow could have been transported to the closest military installation and taken to a the nearest country for emergency services to save her life for any medical emergency.

I wonder if letting the ad air and then having it influence a women into NOT having an advised abortion that may save her life would open the FoF up to future lawsuits

No. The ad presents one woman's story. It doesn't advise anyone.

Ahhh... Trinity getting her ass handed to her. Well said Scott! :biggrin1:

And yet another serious ass whipping, these two posts have just driven your thread straight into the ground Trinity!

Didn't happen. But I'll let you know when it does. lol :tongue:
 

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Regarding the propaganda about how Tim Tebow's mother made the godly moral choice not to abort her son: turns out that the Tebows were living in the Philippines during her pregnancy. The Philippines, where abortion was and still is illegal. Yup. Timmy's mommy "made a choice", didn't she?

And this has captured the attention of everyone's favorite female shark attorney, Gloria Allred. Check out: EXCLUSIVE VIDEO INTERVIEW: Gloria Allred Threatens CBS For Allowing Tim Tebow Anti-Abortion Super Bowl Ad | RadarOnline.com

So, Mrs. Tebow is a martyr for "not" choosing to have an abortion while living in a country where it is against the law to have an abortion?

There is no propaganda in the ad. The propaganda is all on the side of those opposing the ad! They present yet another sad and weak argument.

This time surprising coming from Gloria Allred! It's obviously intended to threaten CBS into caving in and intended to strike a blow for Pro-Choice against the Pro-Life message.

Gloria says if the ad doesn't reveal that abortions weren't legal then it was misleading and she'll file with the FCC. :rolleyes:

The ad is in no way misleading. Mrs. Tebow was advised by a doctor to abort due to her illness during her pregnancy. Mrs. Tebow, through faith chose to continue with the pregancy. There is no need to explain how Mrs. Tebow would have obtained an abortion. That is the stupidest argument yet. I'm actually surprised at Gloria Allred. :eek:

Mrs. Tebow could have been medivac'd to a military installation and taken to the nearest country for ANY emergency medical services or the Federal Govt could have taken the necessary steps in country to save her life. To assert, that the ad violates any rules or that Mrs. Tebow didn't have a difficulut choice to make and didn't courageously face it with her faith just adds to weak attacks the opposition has been lobbing. :rolleyes:

 

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The definition of propaganda: information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.

You said the ad wasn't a piece of propaganda, and then in the very next paragraph talked about how people are fighting against CBS from airing the commercial because of its Pro-Life message. What a way to contradict yourself, troll! LOL!!!!



Coming up next... everyone's favorite scwewy wabbit responds in its usual asinine way, desperately trying to discredit her opposition with a pointless rebuttal about not understanding anything, ignoring the fact that anything with a "Pro-Life" message classifies as information of a biased nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view. Stay tuned!!!
 
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...The ad is in no way misleading. Mrs. Tebow was advised by a doctor to abort due to her illness during her pregnancy. Mrs. Tebow, through faith chose to continue with the pregancy...


Given the possibility that all your newly hatched assumptions about her condition and where she was, where she could have been air lifted to, et al are true...How fortunate for Ms Tebow that nobody denied her her right to choose.
 

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What if she spoke to an American Doctor or a doc from Doctors Without Boarders or even a local doctor......................Maybe Ms.Tebow is a big fat liar but then again Christians never lie now do they? Perhaps we should return to the back alley butchers of the 1960's early 70's then the "Christians" could be happy.
 

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No. The ad presents one woman's story. It doesn't advise anyone.

I didn't say that the ad advised anyone...I said that it may influence someone who was advised by a dr to abort...which in this sue happy society may be enough to warrant a suit
 

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Given the possibility that all your newly hatched assumptions about her condition and where she was, where she could have been air lifted to, et al are true...How fortunate for Ms Tebow that nobody denied her her right to choose.

It's Gloria Allred and those latching on to her ridiculous threats that have the "hatched assumptions." :rolleyes:

The definition of propaganda: information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.

You said the ad wasn't a piece of propaganda, and then in the very next paragraph talked about how people are fighting against CBS from airing the commercial because of its Pro-Life message. What a way to contradict yourself, troll! LOL!!!!

You rarely understand what you read Vinyl. So, it is no surprise that you had to look up propaganda and still don't under what was stated. :rolleyes:
 

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I didn't say that the ad advised anyone...I said that it may influence someone who was advised by a dr to abort...which in this sue happy society may be enough to warrant a suit

:rolleyes: Winner of 7 Tour de France races Lance Armstrong drinks a sports drink in a commercial...you watch his commercial and it "influences" you to drink it. Your doctor says you shouldn't drink sports drinks. You get sick. That's on you. The ad neither "advised" you or made you do anything.
 

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You wawewy undewstand what you wead Vinyw. So, it is no suwpwise that you had to wook up pwopaganda and stiww don't undew what was stated.

Apparently, YOU'RE the person who doesn't know what the word is, so I sourced it for you. It also gives me more leverage to make you look stupid, and I must admit I do get a sick pleasure on doing that now and then.

The commercial you're defending is propaganda. Period. It provides information of a Pro-Life nature, which is a definitive bias used to promote a political cause. You said that the commercial that will be airing is not propaganda. FAIL! It is. Your opinion doesn't trump fact or the dictionary. You can now STFU or find another argument to support your claims.

Don't get mad if it's this easy to discredit you. You scwewy wabbit.
 

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Trinity, any commercial by its very nature IS propaganda

Merriam Webster Dictionary has three definitions for propaganda:

1 capitalized : a congregation of the Roman curia having jurisdiction over missionary territories and related institutions
2 : the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
3 : ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause; also : a public action having such an effect



The common understanding of the connotation of the word propaganda is negative influence. Even Vinyl's definition says "especially of a biased or misleading nature."

All commercials or ads are not negative in their intent to "damage" "mislead" or "injure."
 

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Trinty you have been beat down repeatedly in this thread, you are just like Monty Python's Black Knight... talking shit and biting at everyone's ankles when you have had every limb cut off from under you.
 

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Merriam Webster Dictionary has three definitions for propaganda:

1 capitalized : a congregation of the Roman curia having jurisdiction over missionary territories and related institutions
2 : the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
3 : ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause; also : a public action having such an effect



The common understanding of the connotation of the word propaganda is negative influence. Even Vinyl's definition says "especially of a biased or misleading nature."

All commercials or ads are not negative in their intent to "damage" "mislead" or "injure."

Uh-- read your definitions and tell me a commercial that doesn't try to get you to buy their product over another product or support their cause over another cause?

Our product is better than theirs (Coke/Pepsi, AT&T/Verizon, Charmin/Northern)
 

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Merriam Webster Dictionary has three definitions for propaganda:

1 capitalized : a congregation of the Roman curia having jurisdiction over missionary territories and related institutions
2 : the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
3 : ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause; also : a public action having such an effect


The common understanding of the connotation of the word propaganda is negative influence. Even Vinyl's definition says "especially of a biased or misleading nature."

All commercials or ads are not negative in their intent to "damage" "mislead" or "injure."

I love it when I can use someone's own quote to prove them wrong... your own goddamned posted definition includes "HELPING":rolleyes:
 

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Merriam Webster Dictionary has three definitions for propaganda:

1 capitalized : a congregation of the Roman curia having jurisdiction over missionary territories and related institutions
2 : the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
3 : ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause; also : a public action having such an effect



The common understanding of the connotation of the word propaganda is negative influence. Even Vinyl's definition says "especially of a biased or misleading nature."

All commercials or ads are not negative in their intent to "damage" "mislead" or "injure."

Next time you want to make fun of someone for using a dictionary in their posts, remember THIS one and kindly STFU. Apology accepted. :rolleyes: