What 8 Years Of Bush Has Done To Our Economy

[lucky8]

plus tens of thousands of their people..that sounds justified....and dont turn around and say they are all extremists wanting to kill us..thats just plain ignorance x.x

hey Einstein, radical Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. It has been for the last 30 years...

 

[hottxboi16]

Whats your point? Catholics consist of over 1billion people..that doesnt mean they were all molested as children...

if anything i would attritube it to anti american sentiment, but whos to say for sure, I havnt been the middle east, nor have I conversed with every single individual there...generalizing their population as extremist killers only propogates ignorance

hey Einstein, radical Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. It has been for the last 30 years...

 

[lucky8]

Whats your point? Catholics consist of over 1billion people..that doesnt mean they were all molested as children...

if anything i would attritube it to anti american sentiment, but whos to say for sure, I havnt been the middle east, nor have I conversed with every single individual there...generalizing their population as extremist killers only propogates ignorance

did i say that everyone in the middle east was an extremist? lemme know where i said that please

 

[Elmer Gantry]

The one thing i have to disagree with you is lack of decent gun control leading to random public shootings

You can't blame "lack" of gun control on psychotic individuals...more so I would blame the media for blowing situations like that up, spending several days covering the same issue and allowing the same type of people to see that as a means to a significant ending. People committ suicide all the time, its the individuals that have biological dysfunctions that want to go out with a bang, no pun intended x.x

You can't control those types of people...you take away guns then what? They go around killing by whatever means possible...don't blame it on guns or gun control.

That may be true, but it is socially irresponsible to create such an easy environment in which to kill another person. We learnt our lesson after Port Arthur and while murder is not unknown in our country (it mever will be) we don't have people gunning down dozens of people when they have a bad morning.

 

[Elmer Gantry]

personally i think bush is the antichrist and his being elected has set the apocalypse in motion. let us pray

That's a little melodramatic.

If it wasn't The Shrub in the big house then it would be another. He is just a puppet. The real crims are in the shadows where all good crims exist.

 

[D_Prudence_Admonition_Drightits]

Not a fair comparison, one is man made and one is out of man's control.
The head of anything takes the blame of what has and has not been successful. If they cannot do so, then they should not be leaders.
The President's policies do affect the economy.

Blaming the President for the economy is somewhat akin to blaming the National Weather Service Director for the weather.

 

[Elmer Gantry]

did i say that everyone in the middle east was an extremist? lemme know where i said that please

No, but you did blame Islam with the creation of extremists without investigating the true reasons behind it.

Themost dangerous question you could possibly ask in that debate is "Why?'. The "Who's", "When" and "How's" are ably handled by the mainstream press, but asking "Why?" is forbidden.

 

[hottxboi16]

That reminds me of one of my great uncles comments on school shootings...he said " Back in my day we were allowed to have guns in school.....those people would never have tried shit like that because they would have been shot dead immediately"

You wont ever be able to stop murder......instead of looking at the means by which they kill people...perhaps we should look at the reasons they kill them and how we can fix or prevent it.....

That may be true, but it is socially irresponsible to create such an easy environment in which to kill another person. We learnt our lesson after Port Arthur and while murder is not unknown in our country (it mever will be) we don't have people gunning down dozens of people when they have a bad morning.

 

[hottxboi16]

Thanks it gets tiring having to point everything out to people

No, but you did blame Islam with the creation of extremists without investigating the true reasons behind it.

Themost dangerous question you could possibly ask in that debate is "Why?'. The "Who's", "When" and "How's" are ably handled by the mainstream press, but asking "Why?" is forbidden.

 

[hottxboi16]

very much agreed

Not a fair comparison, one is man made and one is out of man's control.
The head of anything takes the blame of what has and has not been successful. If they cannot do so, then they should not be leaders.
The President's policies do affect the economy.

 

[lucky8]

No, but you did blame Islam with the creation of extremists without investigating the true reasons behind it.

Themost dangerous question you could possibly ask in that debate is "Why?'. The "Who's", "When" and "How's" are ably handled by the mainstream press, but asking "Why?" is forbidden.

WHY do these extremists believe what they do? because they believe in a radical interpretation of the Koran that declares every single thing the western culture believes is immoral. this radical interpretation also declares that it is the duty of its followers to bring death upon anyone who does not share the same beliefs. correct me if i'm wrong, but the Koran is the holy book of Islam, right?

 

[Elmer Gantry]

I found it fascinating that in the zillions of sound bites and column inches thrown around after 9/11, only a couple of people tried to answer the "why" question and were shoutd down/discredited as "Un-American", "Anti-Semitic" or "Fascists" depending on the attacker/attackee dynamic.

 

[hottxboi16]

Of course not oil...that would be the obvious answer that everyone already knows but "we" are not taking it....halliburtons no bid contracts are lol but again that must be MY ignorance *yawn*

and yes, you are right we are not "running" their politics....we are just policing their entire country, giving them curfews and such, similar to a martial law type state. *sounds like fun, sign me up*

as per nukes....well israel is our bitch, and we protect them, why would they do anything? And frankly, if I were Iran, i would be hurry my ass up to get a nuke too to prevent myself from being invaded by Team America

HA. so ignorant, bro. intercept a nuke? you're right, we could intercept a nuclear attack, provided we knew it was coming. not to mention the mass amount of fallout that would ensue in not only our nation, but canada, mexico, and possibly the U.K. nothing good will come from pulling out of Iraq. the country will be in chaos, and when extremists covertly infiltrate the government, it will only be a matter of time before the innevitable.

as far as us taking Iraq's resources, which resources are you talking about? certainly not oil, i hope. we're running Iraq? since when? no nukes in the middle east? what about Isreal? Pakistan perhaps? Iran is on their way...do a little research next time you want to argue.

Romans thought they'd be around forever too...

 

[hottxboi16]

You have fundamentalists in every religious sect....look at the crazy christians that go around bombing abortion clinics....should we erradicate all christians because of this?

WHY do these extremists believe what they do? because they believe in a radical interpretation of the Koran that declares every single thing the western culture believes is immoral. this radical interpretation also declares that it is the duty of its followers to bring death upon anyone who does not share the same beliefs. correct me if i'm wrong, but the Koran is the holy book of Islam, right?

 

[D_Cyprius Slapwilly]

I keep telling myself "you didn't come here for intellectual stimulation!" :biggrin1:

I'm starting to feel this way too. Heh.

 

[lucky8]

You have fundamentalists in every religious sect....look at the crazy christians that go around bombing abortion clinics....should we erradicate all christians because of this?

start fully reading my posts before commenting on them. i have been saying RADICAL Islamists, not ALL Muslims.

you're right, there are fundamentalists in every religious sect, but none of them comopare to growth and extensive violent intentions of extreme Islam.

And no, all Christians should not be erradicated for the acts of fundamentalists of their religion. the fundamentalists should be thrown in jail, which they are.

 

[Elmer Gantry]

WHY do these extremists believe what they do? because they believe in a radical interpretation of the Koran that declares every single thing the western culture believes is immoral. this radical interpretation also declares that it is the duty of its followers to bring death upon anyone who does not share the same beliefs. correct me if i'm wrong, but the Koran is the holy book of Islam, right?

That's not true. Our morals are of no concern to them until we start forcing Western hegemony upon them. Most of the gripes coming from even the hardliners are not based around our love of alcohol or pornography. Their claims of Western immorality are mostly to do with supporting various despotic leaders and nations.

The most extreme of all are the greatest Mid East allies of the US but they aren't considered "extremists".

 

[hottxboi16]

Im sorry im not going to go back through pages of comments to ensure that I respond to your questions 100% accurately...i do have other things to do

I just like to debate, whatever side im on xD it doesnt matter lololol I could debate that pickles should be able to be pilots, its all fun to me

start fully reading my posts before commenting on them. i have been saying RADICAL Islamists, not ALL Muslims.

you're right, there are fundamentalists in every religious sect, but none of them comopare to growth and extensive violent intentions of extreme Islam.

And no, all Christians should not be erradicated for the acts of fundamentalists of their religion. the fundamentalists should be thrown in jail, which they are.

 

[lucky8]

actually, it is true.

 

[faceking]

start fully reading my posts before commenting on them. i have been saying RADICAL Islamists, not ALL Muslims.

you're right, there are fundamentalists in every religious sect, but none of them comopare to growth and extensive violent intentions of extreme Islam.

And no, all Christians should not be erradicated for the acts of fundamentalists of their religion. the fundamentalists should be thrown in jail, which they are.

Well put... the "look at Timothy McVeigh" arguments are pathetic.... last I checked whacky Christians are not calling for the death and elimination of a particular nation.