I never claimed to be civil or support the idea that civility was important. Quite the reverse, I have said than being civil in cricumstances where my rights are being threatened would not be a worthy goal. Learn to read. (emphasis added by me)
This is simply a forum where people can
discuss rights, policies, ideas, etc. Nobody here is expressly threatening your rights or trying to take them away. It's just who I am when I bring up the civility issue in regards to a forum discussion. There are a lot of words in the English language we can choose to use and select a way to arrange them so as to make a point without that point feeling like it's coming from the end of a pitchfork. In addition, you are one of the more prolific posters here with a total nearing 5,000. I can't vouch for each and every thing you may have said over time as to the method to the madness as it relates to how you conduct discussions and such.
It's funny that the one person who makes quite an effort over time to curse and/or blast everyone else at some point that doesn't share your worldview complains about not being treated civilly
Once again, I never said that.
True enough. Just like there exists verbal and body language, which can say different things, there is direct and indirect communication through writing. Excuse me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't take an honors scholar to see that if I or someone else disagrees with you, we'd better have a flak jacket handy a majority of the time. On the few occasions where we've been on the same page, I've never gotten that vibe from you. No, I'm not a psychologist, but I have been known to play doctor sometimes. If my analysis is incorrect, then so be it. It was free at least.
No, it's a free country and we're all welcome to talk here any darned way we want. I suppose I can be accused of coming off as a bit self-righteous in here complaining about the tone because in the college/political/debate world where I exist, you don't get bonus points because of how many times in a week you can creatively curse in a discussion.
Beaten?? I didn't respond to your questions from two posts ago because I felt I put it clearly enough. I thought I'd chime in with my "top 10" list, on what was post #20 in this thread, and the first two responses it gets are the F-bomb. Sorry, I just don't make a practice of F-bombing others, no matter what they say, and tend to get rude when replying to it. You don't like personal attacks, I don't like the F-bomb in response to things I say. We all have, I guess, this quasi-list of things we try to do to get through the day, and one of them for me is keeping cursing at a minimum. I most definitely try to do that on subjects like politics. I'd say the feelings run deep enough on most political subjects without adding gasoline to the fire.
On a more general note, if you wonder why I don't respond to all the points in your posts (and some of your friends), maybe it's because of what I call "HalliBushCheneyRoveOil" syndrome. Liberals think that they've uncovered 5 pillars of evil in the modern world when they consider those five subjects. They come off as hoping that if they scream about these loudly and often enough that perhaps people will listen and they'll finally win an election. To paraphrase a wise man from within this forum, why don't they instead try coming up with a positive message of hope, party-building, and attempting to reach out to those that no longer support them instead of just engaging in continual histrionics?
Why should I waste the occasional 3 hours plus fighting a post or series of posts that perpetuate some version of the 'syndrome' when the only result of it will be carpal tunnel syndrome on all our parts and nobody having changed their positions one iota. Republicans are FAR from infallible. Yes, I am one but I don't support all they want to do. I'd like to think there are Democrats that feel the same within their party but I seldom get that impression here.
I know you've stated to me before that you've had political allegiances that have varied over time. I respect that, but the only Zora I hear from in 2005 hates, hates, hates anything and everything that is Republican/conservative. Whatever reasons or justifications you feel you have, realize you're lumping a lot of people into that basket when you generalize. I risk doing the same when I generalize about you and others in the room. I'll promise to elaborate more if/when I throw a post your way down the road.
