What do trump people think of his affair(s)?

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Yes, there is an individual (tacit) verbal agreement with each person the business serves. Yet, if a business refuses service, where is the contract? They are essentially refusing to enter into an agreement with that individual.

Foolish. The contract is commerce itself. The service is offered - a cake, a real estate transaction, whatever. The seller is offering a service at a fee. The buyer is offering what the seller demanded. The seller does not have the right to refuse the full offered fee - as per the equal housing act. The African American's money for the house is as acceptable as the white person's money for the house. A Jewish home seller cannot refuse to sell to a Muslim buyer. Courts have recently ruled that orientation, although not itemized as a protected class in most anti-discrimination laws is protected regardless. A commercial transaction is just that - not a religious rite or the obligation to fit oneself with the moral underpinnings of another. It is simple wrong on every level to deny service based on orientation, race, party affiliation, etc.
 

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Obumbler: Manufacturing jobs are gone. Good call there ex pres

Mr cool Stormfront yo Trog yo trog yo trog. Dimwit. Go back to Lala land where Jimmy Kimmel is the king of comedy.
 
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I'm still in stitches from Jimmy Kimmel. Oh and Stephen Colbert. Man those liberal 'comedians' are so cutting edge. So ballsy.

My sister's out with your bf. Apparently you don't satisfy him. That's the word.
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It's happened dude. Its old news. Just another sleazy Clinton covered up by the Soros US media

Ah. Well, it's been a pretty good coverup, then; this is the first I've heard of it. But if a guy on the internet says it's true, that's good enough for me.
 

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Trump is doing such an unbelievable job - not least of which is annoying the crap out of the left on a daily basis - that we don't care.

I know you're just trolling for the sake of getting a negative reaction, but this right here made me actually laugh out loud.

If a president can do a "unbelievable job" by annoying the fuck out of the opposing political party Obama should have gotten a medal. Everything he did pissed off Republicans.

Hilarious.
 

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The contract is commerce itself.

No. If there is any reason that the business owner has a right to refuse service (which is the case), then the mere state of being in business cannot be taken as already being in contract with any given prospective customer.

The service is offered - a cake, a real estate transaction, whatever.

The initial offer is really just a potential one though. What do you understand haggling to be? It seems to me that haggling precedes the actual agreement, given that either party can back down with no consequence (other than losing out on an exchange) in that process.

The seller does not have the right to refuse the full offered fee - as per the equal housing act. The African American's money for the house is as acceptable as the white person's money for the house. A Jewish home seller cannot refuse to sell to a Muslim buyer. Courts have recently ruled that orientation, although not itemized as a protected class in most anti-discrimination laws is protected regardless.

Yes, yes, the law. I've already acknowledged awareness of discrimination in business being illegal. Again, that is a separate issue from a) what the State can logically be said to be doing when it does permit market discrimination, b) the nature of agreement and contract in a market exchange or c) what rights the owners of businesses have in choosing who they wish to do with their businesses.

with A commercial transaction is just that - not a religious rite or the obligation to fit oneself with the moral underpinnings of another.

That shouldn't be our call to make. If a business owner sees a certain transaction as a violation of his/her religious or ethical conscience, then he/she has the moral right to refuse that exchange.

It is simple wrong on every level to deny service based on orientation, race, party affiliation, etc.

I don't know that I disagree. But I also wasn't aware that the function of the State was to prohibit everything that is wrong.
 
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That shouldn't be our call to make. If a business owner sees a certain transaction as a violation of his/her religious or ethical conscience, then he/she has the moral right to refuse that exchange.
Can we just all agree from this statement that malakos is 100% okay with legal discrimination? If a black or Latino person walks into a business, as a customer, and the owner refuses to sell him or her anything because their religious belief is that minorities are less than human their right to refuse should be respected?

Stop pretending because you have totally outed yourself. Too bad you were born so late. I bet you would have loved the Old South in the early 1800s.
 

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No. If there is any reason that the business owner has a right to refuse service (which is the case), then the mere state of being in business cannot be taken as already being in contract with any given prospective customer.



The initial offer is really just a potential one though. What do you understand haggling to be? It seems to me that haggling precedes the actual agreement, given that either party can back down with no consequence (other than losing out on an exchange) in that process.



Yes, yes, the law. I've already acknowledged awareness of discrimination in business being illegal. Again, that is a separate issue from a) what the State can logically be said to be doing when it does permit market discrimination, b) the nature of agreement and contract in a market exchange or c) what rights the owners of businesses have in choosing who they wish to do with their businesses.



That shouldn't be our call to make. If a business owner sees a certain transaction as a violation of his/her religious or ethical conscience, then he/she has the moral right to refuse that exchange.



I don't know that I disagree. But I also wasn't aware that the function of the State was to prohibit everything that is wrong.


You seem to want it all ways. You agree discrimination is wrong but it is not the laws concern to address it. Again you are wrong, laws DO mater if a society is to function. It is not pick and choose, every man for himself. Government protects commerce and all of its citizens share he cost and responsibility for that. No one using public resources - streets, utilities, fire and police protection should be exempt from equal treatment - period, ever.
 

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They shouldn't be. It's that simple. I have not seen a policy from Starbucks or any retailer, in writing stating they will not serve Trump supporters. I'm sure you can document that for us - specifically that is a written company wide policy. Put up, or shut up.

I may go in there and test it sounds like a discrimination lawsuit to me.
 
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There is speculation and rumor but is it all not still "alleged" or have I missed a confession? This may or may not be true but speculation and paying witnesses as was revealed in Florida to say they had an affair is not the same as Bill Clinton's admission.