What do WOMEN want?

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Someone who doesnt expect a fuck to follow every cuddle

That's funny - I want someone who doesn't expect a cuddle to follow every fuck! I mean I like a post-coital cuddle - but sometimes I just need breakfast! (Which he can make while I'm in the shower - fortunately he's a good fuck and a good cook :biggrin1:)

I would have to say that some of the things that some men do for women that they really don't want to, depending on the guy, might include:

Getting Married
Buying a house
Having a baby
Working like a dog at a job they hate and giving her the money
Buying a minivan because its practical
Going for Thanksgiving to her folks house
Going shopping for shoes
Holding her purse while she uses the changing room
buying tampax at the store cause she asked you to.


The problem is ins equating women's feelings about sex with mens.

For girls, sex is like ice cream... they may really like it... really enjoy it... but they can go without it for a while and its not a problem


For boys, sex is like food.
They can go without it for a little while... but the longer they go, the harder it gets to think about anything BUT food.

The things men do and give up for their women are things far more important to the woman than sex.

For guys... there isn't much that ranks more importantly than sex.

For someone who is clearly not thick you have some funny and rather old fashioned notions.

Don't you think for a minute that women make the same kind of sacrifises you list above.

Going to his parents for Christmas.
Going along to 'help' him pick a car even though you know every opinion and comment you make will be overruled.
Going out with his work colleagues.
Giving up her carreer to look after the kids because it makes sense as he is the higher earner.
Not wearing that dress he doesn't like. (read, general clothes related compromise - he wants her to look sexy but not too sexy :rolleyes:)
Having sport on the TV all day saturday.*

Now thoose things are actually as sexist and unreasonably generic and as unlikely to apply to many couples as your list - but I still think a lot of women will identify with them in the same ways men will identify with your list.

The thing is relationships do often end up being about compromise and what you appear to be suggesting (maybe I am wrong) is that men compromise on all those social things and women 'put out' in ways they don't want to. Holy fuck! What centuary (and decade) are you living in?!?

Women and men (and men and men, and women and women in gay relationships) make sacrifises for each other - make compromises together when a middle ground needs to be found. Do you think male gay couples have none of the issues on your list? I'd love to hear from a few gay men on that. And men withhold sex or certain sexual acts from women. My ex was very particular about the circumstances of when he would and would not give oral and what I had to do in order to 'earn' it (a game which I did NOT enjoy playing and never reciprocated by 'rationing' anything for him - though maybe I should have).

I just can't believe you think this only works one way.

And if a guy really does not want to marry and have kids then he sould not do so. I know women who don't want to marry and have kids, and guess what, in relationships where he wanted that and she didn't the women have said 'sorry, I don't want that' and moved on (and not tried to force him to live her lifestyle). It's called knowing what you want and acting on it.

* Of course with my ex the sport thing was me wanting to watch and him not - but he whinged on about it so I gave up after a few years. some proof towards the fact that neither my list (nor yours by extension) is exclusinve to men or women.
 

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So you mean all the stuff I learned from that instruction manual is bunk?!? I have to start all over with every new one!?

I know you were joking but seriously YES! No woman, or man, is the same and 'we' all like and dislike different things and in different ways!Anyway, it's fun finding out! :biggrin1:

And Rugbypuppy darlin I would swap all the chocolate and shoes for a lifetime supply of free books and bacon sandwiches!:smile: (And lots of great sex of course!)
 
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Anything but having it up the arse. How is a chick suppose to get turned on by a guy doing it up her arse. I wouldn't even let Brad Pitt go there LOL.
 

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That's funny - I want someone who doesn't expect a cuddle to follow every fuck! I mean I like a post-coital cuddle - but sometimes I just need breakfast! (Which he can make while I'm in the shower - fortunately he's a good fuck and a good cook :biggrin1:)
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No, i mean sometimes i want just the cuddle. Someone that knows not every bit of physical contact means sex and that sometimes being physically close is enough
 

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Women are in two positions a lot of them want enjoy life (understood in such way of sex and freedon ) and other want to built a family .
In both case women want a man with a good body (muscules ) , want a man only pay atention to her , want a man with a good anual income and economical estability , want a man good behavior , polite . not drink a lot even no smoke at least a lot , a man with health and of course that take care of his health , want a man honest with her , lovely ectc.. and at end or at first it depend , that good in bed .
It mean be lovely ,that like spend time for each inche of her body , with a regular girth and lenght penis size (7 or 8 inches lenght ), with out premature ejaculation , good erection and that can make love all time she need it to be herself full satisfy ( it imply full man premature ejaculation control ). And that's all .
But regular man like to be with many girls specialy , if he have good look , money , and good sexual cualities .
 

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No, i mean sometimes i want just the cuddle. Someone that knows not every bit of physical contact means sex and that sometimes being physically close is enough

I got that, Lee - I was kinda joking that I just want the opposite.... which isn't really true. :redface:

It's amazing how many men know what women want. :shocked:

Isn't it! - I think I'm going to take your sig and change it to the wisest thing a man can know is that he is not a woman :rolleyes::biggrin:
(oh, and vice versa, obviously)
 

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Which works well if you think about it. People are like pills

Yeah? Well next time I see Hick I'll have a glass of water and attempt to swallow him - I don't suppose I'll completely succeed, but I'm sure he'll appreciate the trying. :biggrin1:

Seriously, dude - you have a bleak outlook on life, have you never stopped to consider that the glass might actually be half full, or even more so?
 

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Which works well if you think about it. People are like pills; some are stronger and more addictive than others, but all serve the same purpose.

But if they're "generic" pills they would all have the same effect on others.

I see humans as unique individuals but I guess that's where you and I differ.
 

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But if they're "generic" pills they would all have the same effect on others.

I've never heard of one medication that has a universal effect; I have heard of medication that have universal properties and universal attributed effects, but never one that just affected everyone in the same manner.

Then again, I'm young; what do I know?

I see humans as unique individuals but I guess that's where you and I differ.

If everyone's unique then being unique is simply a common trait making everyone, more or less, generic. It undermines itself as a universal.
 

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Yeah? Well next time I see Hick I'll have a glass of water and attempt to swallow him - I don't suppose I'll completely succeed, but I'm sure he'll appreciate the trying. :biggrin1:

Kinky... ? :confused:

Seriously, dude - you have a bleak outlook on life, have you never stopped to consider that the glass might actually be half full, or even more so?

Taking things as they are is often referred to as not being optimistic but I am not neccessarily being pessimistic in my opinion. Humans really do generally have the same needs, wants, desires, etc. After all, if we didn't minus small quirks could human psychology and behavior sciences really exist?

Then again not everyone likes to look at the glass and just realize that, whether half empty or full, it's still only holding half it's capacity.
 

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Ok I know this mind sound odd and wacky, but I'm serious (geesh I could start nearly everything I say with these words).

I saw a commercial where a guy wanted anal sex with his girlfriend

Are you sure this was a commercial? :confused:

Guys want anal or oral sex, but how does the thing look on the other side? What do you girls want from a guy, which he might not like?

I'm really curious what that might be....

I've only been with one guy who wanted anal sex, and he admitted it was because porn focuses so much on it. He also claimed everyone was doing it and everyone was into it. Wrong! When I told him I wasn't interested numerous time, he finally got over it. And a couple inches north of my anus is something much better that's pink, pretty and wet. :biggrin1: He liked when I said that. :smile:

As far as oral sex goes, I do it, but I don't want it to be the "be all, end all". I'm more than just a mouth, so don't expect me to drop to my knees every time you walk into the room. Oral is fine as foreplay, but I want more when the foreplay is over.

What I want from a guy is looks, personality, sense of humor, a hard worker, good lover, mutual interests and goals, fidelity, and one who understands my needs, not just his own.

Sexually, I can't think of anything that I would want from a guy that he wouldn't like. I know some guys don't like to go down on women, but my exes have all enjoyed that to varying degrees. Some guys need to work on lasting longer.:wink: One boyfriend never lasted more than 5 minutes vaginally, so to make up for it we'd have plenty of foreplay beforehand.

It's all about communication and working with each other, not against each other.

And speaking of taste, I disagree about not liking the taste of 'you' on his cock (your ass, to be exact)...if you clean your bum real good first, it doesn't taste bad at all. Just a suggestion.

Now that is really, really gross. :sour: I can't imagine how someone could even think of that, never mind doing it.
 

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I just can't believe you think this only works one way.

I don't think it works one way... that was kinda the whole point of the post...
But women treat men's needs or interests in sex as if not on a par with other needs...
Again, gals, for men its a much more central focus... And its how we are wired...

And if a guy really does not want to marry and have kids then he sould not do so.

But I loved her... Kids and family were what she wanted more than anything... and if I love a woman... who the hell am I to deny her something her entire biology is driving her to yearn for?
How would that be loving?

I would be a fool to imagine that most any woman would not, at some point, yearn for the thing her body is evolved to want.


It was not something I gave in to grudgingly... I understood it was a DEEP pull... and I agreed to it with full investment, without regret or resentment, because if it made her happy and fulfilled, it was my pleasure as well.



Men feel that way about sex with their woman.... about desire... we have that deep pull and yearning, too.

Its what we evolved to want.


And yet women often treat it as if our evolved drives are disgusting and base.

I get up and work every day like a dog to provide my woman with the lifestyle she prefers.

Her cooking for me is not equivalent. She LOVES to cook... being home to do the cooking is part of the lifestyle she prefers... that I strive, daily, to provide.


Once again... I often see women getting what women want out of relationships...and reserving the right to deny their men what they want.


While I feel that women, at least those that I have been in relationships with, are very indulgent of their men... not all of them are.

And I think its a valid complaint for men to point out that they do the things for their women that mean the most to their women....
whereas the things that may mean the most to men do not get equal status of importance from the girls.



ETA- Manly you suggest that a man not wanting kids or marriage should not do so... Well, if we all only did those things we wanted, unwilling to bend to the needs of another... we would ALL live alone.


Loving someone else is practically defined as valuing THEIR needs as highly or more highly than your own.
 

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But women treat men's needs or interests in sex as if not on a par with other needs...
Again, gals, for men its a much more central focus... And its how we are wired...
Seems someone forgot the question is not about men but about women.
But I loved her... Kids and family were what she wanted more than anything... and if I love a woman... who the hell am I to deny her something her entire biology is driving her to yearn for?
How would that be loving?
This is why two people should determine ahead of time whether they are, in fact, birds of feather.
I would be a fool to imagine that most any woman would not, at some point, yearn for the thing her body is evolved to want.
This is why one should do what I mentioned above before hurling themselves headlong into a relationship. My partner knows there is a chance I may not be able to conceive. I made it clear that any man who desires to be with me must accept that possibility. I must be enough for him in the event that I cannot conceive. I've accepted this and am at peace with the knowledge that it could go either way. My situation would be unsatisfactory for most men. One should never assume anything.
It was not something I gave in to grudgingly... I understood it was a DEEP pull... and I agreed to it with full investment, without regret or resentment, because if it made her happy and fulfilled, it was my pleasure as well.
Then it was obviously something you wanted as well.
And yet women often treat it as if our evolved drives are disgusting and base.
Your needs are neither disgusting nor base, however, your needs do not supersede ours whatever they might be.
I get up and work every day like a dog to provide my woman with the lifestyle she prefers.

Her cooking for me is not equivalent. She LOVES to cook... being home to do the cooking is part of the lifestyle she prefers... that I strive, daily, to provide.
Then you have an unequal relationship if you feel what you do is more important that what she does.
Once again... I often see women getting what women want out of relationships...and reserving the right to deny their men what they want.
You're spending time with the wrong women.
And I think its a valid complaint for men to point out that they do the things for their women that mean the most to their women....
whereas the things that may mean the most to men do not get equal status of importance from the girls.
Again, this thread is not about your gender's wants and needs, is it?
ETA- Manly you suggest that a man not wanting kids or marriage should not do so... Well, if we all only did those things we wanted, unwilling to bend to the needs of another... we would ALL live alone.
Any person is a fool for marrying or having children if they do not wish to be married or be parents. How can someone expect to have a good marriage if it's not what they want? Not to mention there are enough parents who are lousy, uncaring, and absent from their children's lives.
Loving someone else is practically defined as valuing THEIR needs as highly or more highly than your own.
If your needs are not being met, then the relationship will never work. You'll always be bitter and resentful.