What do you think the true average is?

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Didn't really know where to put this thread, so I put it in here.

Have any of you had the same personal experience as me that it seems like their are a lot more "big" penises out there then the official studies suggest, and that the average seems to be significantly bigger than 6 inches? I'm a straight guy, so by experience I mean by what I've seen in the shower after team sports, by what guys have claimed which seems true by what I've seen in the shower or by what girls they've been with have confirmed.

Another odd thing about the official size studies is that they all claim the black stereotype isn't true, yet anyone who has watched porn, even amateur porn, can tell you that the biggest black guys are definitely bigger than the biggest white guys and that there are a lot more huge black guys.
 

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I've read many penis size studies and the average is approx. 6". What suprised me the most was the fact that in most of the studies, they pushed the ruler on to the public bone and that the average is approximately 6" bone pressed. Given the fact that the average pubic fat pad is approx. 1" thick, the average visible length is only around 5".

I'm not sure that the black population as a whole are much bigger than the white population. However, there may be more variation so that there are more that are huge even if the mean average is about the same.

African populations would have had different evolutionary pressures than european and asian populations and this may have led to some differences. The cold weather further north may have caused the flaccid penis size to become smaller, to protect it from the cold. The fact that northern populations had to cover up with animal skins to keep warm, may have also stopped the women from selecting by flaccid size. Many african tribes may have been naked and allowed for the women to select by flaccid size. If flaccid size was selected for, it wouldn't have necessarily increased the "mean" average erect size because many of them would probably have been showers not growers (compared to northern populations).

So blacks may have ended up with a larger flaccid size but also be less likely to grow as much, keeping the mean average similar to other races. However, there would still be a proportion that were growers and with their larger flaccid size, they would grow into monsters.
 
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African populations would have had different evolutionary pressures than european and asian populations and this may have led to some differences. The cold weather further north may have caused the flaccid penis size to become smaller, to protect it from the cold. The fact that northern populations had to cover up with animal skins to keep warm, may have also stopped the women from selecting by flaccid size. Many african tribes may have been naked and allowed for the women to select by flaccid size. If flaccid size was selected for, it wouldn't have necessarily increased the "mean" average erect size because many of them would probably have been showers not growers (compared to northern populations).

When it comes to genetic adaptations, there are certain traits that are successful so often that an entire population can change in a mere hundreds of years, while others can take tens of thousands. When it comes to all the other traits a woman would select a mate for (ability to provide, protect, height, health, etc.) there are so many that flaccid size, if a factor, would be so far down the list it would take an extreme amount of time to change.
Weather, on the other hand, is simple and direct. One of the fastest traits you'll see change in a tribe is skin colour: in a colder climate, those with lighter skin survive (especially in areas with poor-nutrition, sunlight is critical for vitamin D synthesis, and dark-skin resists the positive effects of sunlight as well.) The Indian people are a good example: people migrated north to Europe from Africa and grew lighter over generations, then those lighter people migrated to India and grew dark again.

For penises, the impact of weather is far, far more immediate than mate selection could possibly be. If your penis is permanently dangling out completely, you'll waste a lot of energy heating it (possibly starving to death), or it will freeze off, and both are complete genetic dead-ends. Fortunately, much of the penis is internal, and we have a system to pull the penis back in to the body. It's not those with smaller penises that would survive, but those whose "shrinkage" reflex is stronger.

On another point, trying to judge reality by porn is about the most insane thing I can think of.
We do have data on the Nigerian penis lengths from this study:
www.ajol.info/index.php/wajm/article/download/28282/5049
Just going by their charts, it looks like yes: there is more variability in Nigerian penis lengths, if you compare to the distribution in the charts the last guy posted. This could mean that there actually are a higher percentage of really-hung guys among black people, but since the average is the same as among white people, there are also a lot more very-small black people. Because of confirmation bias, any big black dick we see confirms the myth, and any small one is dismissed.
 

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I always assume its a bit smaller than reported or measured. The people willing to be measured probably are not concerned about their size, and likely are not under 5in in length or 4.3 in girth, very often anyhow. But more importantly any guy who feels he has a decent cock, like near 6in length, or 5in girth, won't mind; making up a majority of contributors.
 
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ive always been surprised by the 'average' length of approx 6".

i have seen hundreds of cocks both soft and hard and in my experience there is a VAST difference in cock size/shape.

presumably, if the average is 6", there are equal numbers of 4" and 8" cocks?
or is my maths wrong?
 

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So nobody here has had the experience in their lives where it seems like there is an inordinate amount of "big" cocks around compares to how small the percentage of guys over 7 is according to the studies?
 

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So nobody here has had the experience in their lives where it seems like there is an inordinate amount of "big" cocks around compares to how small the percentage of guys over 7 is according to the studies?
An anecdotal experience of 20 partners is not good science. For each person that has had the experience you describe, there may be another out there that experiences the opposite (guys with a 4-5" penis)