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Discussion in 'Et Cetera, Et Cetera' started by naughty, Jun 3, 2008.
If you thought she was going to concede this evening you have another thought coming...
She said that she needs a rest after this grueling campaign and will talk politics in the morning.:scratchchin::27:
According to CNN, she didn't concede, but he has won the nomination.
She has the most popular votes, she should NOT concede anything, she is winning.
Last time "delegates" decided a race, we got george bush. If Obama is nominated, we will get John McCain.
I don't think it's in her best interest to concede right away. She should do what Romney did and suspend her campaign. Let's be blunt and honest here, there are people in Clinton's camp that worry about the possibility of something happening to Obama. If that happens, it would be wise for her to be in a position to jump back in and take over the nomination. Yes that sounds bleak and cruel, but we would be silly to think those conversations are not or have not been held.
She can also continue to get money to pay her debts down.
She's going to insist on the VP position before she concedes, I'm sure. It's no surprise, but she doesn't have to hold her breath like that to get what she wants. Obama has expressed a great respect for her and likely realizes that she's the best running mate available. Behind all the bickering, her ultimate goal has been to see to an end to the Bush policies. This negotiation tactic is just her throwing the last of her chips on the table in a final act of tenacity towards that goal.
She already lost.
She said "Whitey do that?"
I'm an obnoxious, mendacious cunt who will refuse to acknowledge my loss and will exhort my followers to sabotage the party unless they agree to all my demands, which I will make known at a future date.
The Electoral College has decided every election since the early 19th century, regardless of the total popular votes. Besides, the only way that Clinton is winning the popular vote is if we scatter those 250,000 votes for Uncommitted among the various third-party candidates or ignore them completely. Wasn't it Clinton who was always saying that every vote must count? Send those, or even just most of them, his way since he's most likely who they were meant for, add in the estimates on Iowa, Nevada, Maine and Washington, and Obama is winning.
Delegates, whether party or electoral college, always decide presidential elections.
We know about you, but what was Clinton saying?
Her speech started out nice but meandered into ambiguous territory towards the end. As her speech went on, she made less and less sense. I started off feeling sorry for her and her supporters. Then she started to sound like she was gonna keep up with her usual schtick and her crowd sounded like a bunch of Nazis with all of the chanting they were doing.
She has won too many states though... they're delegate counts are just too close... Obama will have to offer her the V.P. position or suffer the wrath of her rabid supporters. I fear for Obama's life if she gets the V.P. slot, she will most likely have him killed because she wants the nomination more than she cares if Obama lives or not. Her supporters will be fine with that.
If Obama dies "under her watch" she will be to blame and everybody will know it. It will be the end of her political career. I don't think she's that stupid.
Hooray for a voice of reason.
God, you stink to high heaven. You should be incarcerated.
That's pretty extreme, tripod.
Do you really mean to go that far?
I fear for the both of them. Each engenders a unique type of hatred that nothing pacifies.
I thought that you had me on ignore? Can't you at least keep your word?
It is extreme.. just my fears... nothing more than that. There have been some mysterious deaths associated with the Clintons, do you not agree? Just google the Clinton Body Count... it is fucking scary as hell.
Obviously, those death connections are alleged. I don't want to believe that the Clinton's are capable of murder... there are just some facts out there that speak otherwise.
It's all pure speculation and fear on my part, forgive me... I am just scared at the largeness of Obama's struggle ahead and am freaking out a bit.
The Clinton's are most likely not murderers. I am a natural pessimist anyway and always fear the worst, it's one of my survival mechanisms that is also one of my faults.